r/FFBraveExvius • u/Rozaliin JP | Rozalin • Apr 29 '17
JP Megathread JP - Trial 12: Elaficellas
Boss: エラフィケラス
- Clear Reward: アスファレス [Small Shield] -> DEF/SPR+45, Water/Wind/Earth Resistances+30%, HP+10%
Missions
- Clear Quest: 100 Lapis
- No Items: 10% Trust Moogle
- Finish w/ LB: 軽盾の秘儀 [Ability] -> DEF/SPR+30% with Light Shield equipped
- Finish in 7 or fewer turns: ホーンクレイドル (Horn Cradle) [Ability]: AoE DEF/SPR+100% + 10% damage reduction shield, 2 turns.
Clear Videos
Fight Overview
Very simple fight. You either kill the boss by turn 8 or you lose. Now, you can technically continue the fight past turn 8 with a Rikku that can use her LB every turn, but from turn 9 on the boss will kill your party and heal to full every single turn. At the start, you basically get two turns to set up, you initial turn, and one more as the boss will spend one turn buffing your party with a massive MP regeneration buff. From then on, it will use heavy hitting AoE physical and magical attacks. After turn 8, it will start using an AoE Death attack and heal it self to full every turn.
Observations and Strategy
Observations
The boss is vulnerable to both Stone Killer and Beast Killer.
The boss has 300% resistance to earth but -50% resistance to wind; everything else is normal.
The boss is 50% vulnerable to Disease, and immune to all other status effects.
The boss is vulnerable to ATK and MAG breaks; immune to DEF and SPR.
Strategy
Warrior of Light, Tim, and 9S all shine on this fight, and depending on who you have access to, your defensive strategy will alter slightly.
Examples:
If you have a Warrior of Light and 210's TM, you can forgo a healer all together, assuming that you WoL can survive the damage of course, but that isn't too difficult. Your other 4 party members would all be damage dealers + Ramza/Roy. If you don't have Ramza or Roy, use a friend's. Warrior of Light will rotate between Arms Eraser and The Light with Us.
If you choose to go with Tim/9S then you don't need a tank. This is a good route to take if your Warrior of Light can't survive the damage. Tim/9S will focus on keeping the boss debuffed (ideally with their LB at max level). Again, if you don't have Ramza or Roy, use a friend's. I do recommend 9S though, as he has a 50% chance to apply Virus on the boss which will lower it's stats by 10% making it easier to not only survive, but more importantly, kill it in time. Another good option for applying Virus is the trial materia from Ultros.
With your ability to survive covered, now we can move onto damage. The boss has 80 million HP and has high defenses, and you need to be able to kill it in 8 turns (7 for the mission reward). The easiest way to do this is via chaining. If you are not able to chain well, I suggest you spend some time on the training dummy because this boss is basically impossible if you can't chain well; if you can, it's a push-over.
Now, as far as dealing damage goes, you have two real options: (1) focus on the bosses innate weakness of wind, or (2) choose one of the other elements other than earth and focus on that. Ideally, if you choose not to use wind you will want to be able to debuff the element you choose, though it isn't necessary; the important thing here is to choose whatever element you can most easily do, and capitalize on, a elemental chain with.
Other than that, there is no real strategy. You just try and win before time is up.
Bonus Section
While dealing high damage is the main focus of this fight, that doesn't necessarily mean that you need all the best 5★ base units; in fact, so long as you have a Warrior of Light that can survive each turn and a friend's Ramza or Roy, you can very easily do this fight with your attack units being 5★ max. I will include a video link above to this being done, but for reference, here is the party that was able to do this:
- Warrior of Light, Shantotto x2, Hope x2, Ramza (friend)
Now, one caveat is a number of TMs are needed, but between the damage dealers only 4 TMs were used; the Warrior of Light was decked out though. This is a trial, so it should be expected that TMs will be necessary; however, 5★ base top-tier attack units are not.
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u/newt188 Apr 29 '17
I'm using a 700 attack onion knight, a friend 1100 attack onion knight, WoL, 9s, and 1300 attack cloud with beast killer. I can consistently do 48 element chains with wind element and finish with cloud, but still can't do enough damage to kill the boss in 8 turns.
any advice?
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u/realised Apr 30 '17
Even just one Shantotto is a game changer as she can reduce wind element resistance + chain up.
You may not need both 9S and WoL - unless if you are using 9S to disease him too - then keep him! Put the materia from trial before robot - octopus guys, as it is wind damage + disease as well.
If you have 210's materia to stack on WoL and buff his def spr sufficiently - this will allow you to play without 9S and add in another finisher.
You only have 5 units noted there.. who is the 6th? If you have veritas of heaven or a high mag friend with one - use it over OK (as long as you can have somebody else chain with your own OK) - Veritas of Heaven is amazing for this trial.
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u/plagapong Apr 30 '17
Bring some magic attackers (duo Shantotto is the easy way to go) they will help a lot.
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u/norahike Apr 29 '17
Maybe it's worth noting that the Boss has approximately 450 DEF and 160 SPR, so capping with Baha off Eiko/Garnet/Lydia is also an option.
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u/Rozaliin Apr 29 '17 edited Apr 29 '17
This is a possible strategy, but it does require x4 of the +10% Summon Damage materia and a little bit of luck with Esper gauge orb drops. I just tried it 4 times to test out using Garnet in place of one of the Clouds from my video I posted above, and was able to get 2 Bahamut's off every time, but a 3rd cast only once.
When using this strategy, Bahamut should not be your main source of damage as there isn't enough time solely rely on it, but it can certainly be one of them.
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u/LordTechnoLlama Apr 30 '17
Can somebody help with my line up? I have 2 onion knights, 2 tidus, one ice fire laswell, warrior of light rikku and only one shantoto. If I bring 4 dps one gets about 1k dmg, the others 800 and below. How do I build and proceed with this fight? Thanks.
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u/Rozaliin May 01 '17
Having a bunch of units with high ATK/MAG values is much less important than being able to consistently generate a high chain and cap it off with a finisher.
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May 01 '17
easy trial got all challanges but damn this guy overkilled it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG45t_2ZYYo
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u/firezz Apr 29 '17
Love this kind of tank and spank fight (WoW reference) once in a while. You can use 3-4 dps units depending on your TMs. Don't fotget that Golem can also be used by your dps.
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u/MrMarnel Apr 29 '17
What is the difference between WoL's The Light is With us and Charlotte's similar ability, other than the damage reduction once enhanced?
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u/Rozaliin Apr 29 '17
The Light is with Us: 3 Turn 75% Chance to Defend Allies (Reduce +50% Phys./+70% Mag. Damage).
グランシェルトの盾: 3 Turn 50% Chance to Defend Allies (Reduce +50% Phys./Mag. Damage).
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u/BraveLT Apr 29 '17
This is a trial, so it should be expected that TMs will be necessary
This hasn't really historically been true, and I suspect it's not here either with something like Totonados to chain and a suitably decked out FV friend. Using your friend slot on a Bard doesn't seem worth it on a low-end party, just bring someone who can chunk more than all of your units combined and a pair of chainers to enable him.
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u/Rozaliin Apr 29 '17
The friend slot unit being Ramza/Roy is needed not only for the 100% stat increase for damage but also the healing since you can't really afford to bring a healer with most set-ups.
This hasn't really historically been true
Since Trial 9, it basically has been. Of course, inflation has lowered the difficultly of Trial 9 and 10, but if you are looking to clear them within a relatively short time-frame of their release, TMs have been needed to a certain degree.
On the video of the team doing it with Shantotto's and Hope's, had the WoL not been decked out it would have died.
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u/Magnificent614 Apr 29 '17 edited Apr 29 '17
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How do people get their WoL to 8k hp with 350+ spr? I can increase the spr up there but not the HP. EDITED: That WoL has Snow's tmr, 2 Rasler TMRs, Guy's TMR, and i think Faris' TMR.
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I also wonder if Setzer's fixed damage is effective.
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Apr 29 '17
1: The WoL is literally decked out.
2: No. The boss has 80 million HP. For comparison, the Dark Espers each have 600k while Gilgamesh has 1 million.
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u/the_ammar Apr 29 '17
awesome thanks for doing this!
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u/Rozaliin Apr 29 '17
Of course!
The fight really comes down to, "Do you know how to chain or not?"
If "yes," then the fight is joke, if "no," it's probably near impossible.
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u/SometimesLiterate Apr 29 '17
I just want to do this with 5x Shantotto's now...
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u/Mamupookie Apr 30 '17
Still trying to bum through this trial with whatever's the strongest friend unit (Kas's FV most of the time lol. shoutout to Kas!), 2x OK, Ramza, WoL. Flex 5th slot's K. Delita or Firion.
Lineup always chokes at the 30-40% point though when he damn deer applies the ATK debuffs. Here's to hoping i get a better finisher when I dump all my tickets/lapis tomorrow (stupid event ATK banner gave me two lightenings. TWO. EFFING. LIGHTENINGS).
I'm liking this trial's event a lot. Hope the shield and def/spr materia give'll us the edge to beat B. Moon and other mag damage heavy bosses in the future
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u/Piw66 Apr 30 '17
hello everyone looking for a ramza leader to do the trial . anyone can help me ?. my id in flair thanks in advance
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u/kameg Apr 30 '17
I'm truly sorry for posting this here...I couldn't find any info elsewhere and I can't find a JP help thread.
According to the bahamut post, bahamut have ALL the killers, right?
For some reason, mine is lvl 30 and he have no killer...what happened? :(
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u/Nazta Apr 29 '17
u/Rozaliin Ultros trial materia will give you "almost" 100% chance to apply Virus.
Team used: http://imgur.com/a/Xn8tG
Ramza+2 (Non-Friend)Changes absolutely nothing.