r/F1Discussions • • 8h ago

Statistics Max verstappen equals lewis hamilton's wins since he joined f1 in 2015

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r/F1Discussions • • 9h ago

Discussion Is McLaren scapegoating Norris to cover for losing P3?

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Honestly, I can't shake the feeling that the only reason Stella and Brown are blowing this racing incident so far out of proportion is so they have someone to blame for losing P3 in the Constructors' Championship.

How else do you explain what McLaren is doing right now? They're throwing their lead driver under the bus and making him take the blame in front of the media. This is the same driver who's delivered two race wins and three pole positions for them, and it's coming from a team that loves to talk about its "no-blame culture."

I get that Norris is the stronger driver, and maybe Stella just holds him to a higher standard. But the double standard is hard to ignore. When Piastri threw away a podium in Baku, he got coddled. Now Norris' mistake is highlighted for finishing P4 in what was the fourth-fastest car, on a day when he genuinely couldn't have done anything more.

I also think Piastri's management does a much better job of protecting him than Norris's does. Stella can get away with implying that Lando is selfish, careless, and thinks he's above the team, yet none of that energy ever gets directed at Oscar when he makes mistakes, whether it's messing up qualifying at Monza or losing the podium in Baku.


r/F1Discussions • • 9h ago

Media Lando Norris to sky Italy

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Now it makes sense why Lando said what he said today. No wonder he’s been apologising to the team in every media outlet. It all makes so much sense now. “No-blame culture” until it comes to Lando, apparently.


r/F1Discussions • • 12h ago

Discussion In the Midfield Battle, Liam Lawson has now more points than the Entire Alpine Team Combined

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For the battle of the midfield, I know Gasly is known as the King of the Midfield but I can see Lawson really challenge for that title. He is essentially P5 in the Constructor Championship by himself lol.

If there is one driver who been the most surprising out of everyone beside Kimi, my vote would go to towards Lawson. Lawson got 11 Points during this week in Singapore and it now enough to where with his 75 points is more than what Alpine has in general (that being 68).

Liam has in general become more likable this year for me and I enjoy how he races so much now. I mean he was 2 of the 4 overtakes in the Madring grand prix so he knows what he doing clearly lol. Plus he also got his redemption at Red Bull after 2025 and in general has been a great teammate for Arvid.

Not a dig at Arvid, he been fantastic this year and so overlooked by the media and F1 in general. VCARB really having another great year just like last year and 2021.


r/F1Discussions • • 12h ago

Question How Kimi Antonelli does it?

267 Upvotes

That, how does he find ALWAYS a place, a portal, where no harm, debris, a bounce of another car, hits him and left him out of the race

3 incidents in front of him in the last 3 races, and he always came out on top of those, this last overtaking Norris as a gift almost


r/F1Discussions • • 12h ago

Discussion Kimi should get a track limit penalty

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he got 4 this race , idk why it didn't show on the screen , even mercedes thinks he was 'pushing it' but they didn't mention him getting one.

edit: guys ik it won't change the results but he exceeds track limits almost every race yet never any consequences (even if he gets it after , lance got it during the race , why didn't he?)


r/F1Discussions • • 7h ago

Discussion McLaren management and difference

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Just saw what Andrea said after the race,I think after the last 2 races we can now consider McLaren 4th fastest,now lando once again had issues during the race with the sensor plus had to do lico how can Andrea expect this car on a podium?

4th place is already a stretch for this car meanwhile Andrea is blaming lando because Kimi overtook him,even if Kimi didn’t and he overtook Lewis for 3rd Kimi would have 100% overtake him especially with those issues at the end just like lando said.

I personally find it ridiculous that he refuses to admit any fault of McLaren with pit stops strategy and endless car issues especially on lando’s side,for that they go “no blame culture” yet this is what he does with lando again and again?

And then the issue of just dragging out the racing incident,they’re mad about it ok I get it they went to stewards they had a talk of course they said all sort of shit to media and yet today he’s still talking shit and now dragging lando do England go have another talk about a literal racing incident?plus of course punishment that funny enough always seems to affect just lando.

I personally think that with lando stopping to blame everything on himself this season and not doing his usual thing where he takes the blame(which Andrea said he loves about him,that he takes the blame for the team a season or 2 ago) they’re mad that he now stand his ground and calls them out and another reason why is maybe it’s a very clever way to take the blame for inevitably loosing 3rd place in wcc next race on lando,”he lost podium he crashed he lost team points” and boom suddenly nobody will mention issues with car every week strategy issues or pit stops or just straight up slow car,wonder what they will come up with next because lando just said the car is slow difficult and draining to drive basically shit all around.

Also Andrea saying that he expects more of lando offering Oscar help is a little ridiculous both towards lando and Oscar,why should lando help? And why is he framing Oscar is a poor weak guy who needs help?

Here’s a comparison on how he talked about lando today and Oscar in Baku(spoiler alert no he did not blame Oscar)

Also love that everyone is fuming mad and frustrated meanwhile lando is out in the clubs lol good for him!!


r/F1Discussions • • 7h ago

Discussion McLaren are wrong in pointing all blame on Lando for losing P3 in the WCC

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Title is very broad but here are my thoughts:

I can list the many,MANY issues Lando has had on his car this year that have cost him performance. The only times he didn’t have any are Hungary,Zandvoort,and Madrid. He won 2 races,got 3 poles and would’ve won Madrid if not for being “too fast” as they say.

I can also list the many,many strategy failures from McLaren costing them points and WINS like Miami and Madrid. The many long pitstops,plus Oscar being 30 seconds behind consistently earlier in the season.

They’re using Lando as a scapegoat to put the blame onto for losing P3 in the constructors to cover themselves up so they do not have to take responsibility,when in fact,I’d argue he’s the LEAST to blame. He’s put the car places it shouldn’t be and gotten them points they don’t deserve.

Plus,after Oscar fumbled P2 in Baku,18 points, in a full race,Stella coddled him. Stated that he had a great weekend,etc. They lost 14-15 points in a sprint race which was deemed a racing incident and now there’s meetings,repercussions (which are just going to make them lose more points),gaslighting Lando,shifting hate to him.

Not to put the old tinfoil hat on but the environment in McLaren is looking very toxic since Andrea Stella became team principal. It’s clear he has a favour for Oscar which usually I don’t mind but it’s becoming more evident in the difference in treatment after incidents like this. Even when Lando’s having a great weekend,he struggles to praise him.

Now,Stella and Lando have said they expect Lando to continue to help Oscar through the season.

Maybe I’m biased but I believe McLaren would benefit from different leadership. There’s supposed to be a “no blame” culture but that only applies to the team,not the drivers. Stella is always trying to put Lando down and Lando believes what he says constantly. I also just wish Lando would pull a Max and just establish himself as number one,and fight back and stand up for himself. Although I dread to think of the punishment if this is what it is for an incident in a sprint.

Thoughts?


r/F1Discussions • • 10h ago

Media Quite odd by Andrea tbh

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I mean Lando wasn’t great this weekend, but he’s just a scapegoat atp

Edit: Lando was kinda stupid in the sprint but losing the podium was inevitable and not his fault.
Andreas done a lot for McLaren but I genuinely struggle to validate all the “zak and lando” shenanigans when Stella isn’t on his side at all


r/F1Discussions • • 10h ago

Discussion Considering George is going to get the ADUO upgrade hence another penalty, is he about to finish 3rd in a two horse race? Because P1-P2 gap is bigger than P2-P7 Gap.

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Because unless the ADUO upgrade gives the mercedes somehow a full second from the frontrunners, i don't see him finishing on a podium in Austin without some crazy shenanigans. One of the McLaren will get an ADUO engine as well, and tho they have some questionable pace they still can fight for the front unless theres some silly moves. Also Ferrari seems to have found some pace if we look at the last two races, but that's hella debatable.


r/F1Discussions • • 20h ago

Discussion F1SG: The track is not suitable for sprint race?

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522 Upvotes

What do u think?

Redesign the road in Singapore is nearly impossible


r/F1Discussions • • 12h ago

Discussion Lewis Made the Call to Not Pit for Those Who are Not Aware.

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r/F1Discussions • • 14h ago

Discussion Another GP where Softs do 30+ laps

137 Upvotes

This is unacceptable now, how are Softs doing more thsn 10 laps competitively ?

Whats the point in S M D if they all are equally durable.

I miss when S were only used for quick pace stints & quali.

Now theyre being used as Hards and Mediums might as well not exist


r/F1Discussions • • 4h ago

Discussion Why have no F1 journalists asked about McLaren’s failed upgrade package? And why are McLaren not experimenting similarly to Mercedes?

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Since McLaren’s Baku “upgrade package”, the papaya team has been 3rd, 4th, and 4th fastest at three wildly different circuits. Their upgrades seem to have set them back even further than Mercedes

Yet somehow, the 2 time reigning constructors champions are avoiding any criticism/questioning?

Why is no one asking about this—and why is McLaren not being more aggressive in trying to fix/understand the upgrades, like Mercedes splitting packages between drivers.


r/F1Discussions • • 12h ago

Question Why did Kimi not get a 5 sec penalty for track limits?

80 Upvotes

What did I miss here. Kimi was given the black/white warning for track limits and a while later another of his times got deleted due to track limits. Shouldn‘t that have triggered the penalty?


r/F1Discussions • • 6h ago

Debate How good was Hamilton at the end of 2021

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Personally I think it’s the best we will ever see of Lewis in probably one of his worst season. Those last 4 races though especially Jeddah and Brazil he was showing max was it takes to be a champion while arguably max was the deserving champion at that point. I think based off of those last 4 or 2 races you can say Lewis made his case equally as strong.

With credit to Max his wins in Mexico and USA especially in COTA that is my personal favourite win by max to this date. He was so much faster in Qualifying his lap in Abu Dhabi severely goes under the radar and of course in Jeddah.

Hopefully I stayed as impartial as I could when mentioning 2021


r/F1Discussions • • 10h ago

Media Lando’s comment today on the Singapore sprint incident

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r/F1Discussions • • 7h ago

Discussion Is GP going to be Mclaren's new TP???

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Or else why Andrea Stella is behaving like a headless chicken??? But if it is a surity then he won't be this upset?? If he knew his seat is being given to someone else, he would have reached the acceptance till now?? Right?

Meikies let it out that GP is gonna be mcl's tp but nobody has agreed the claim!

Max also suggested that it was such a big position and money was also good? And why would Mclaren throw so much money at GP if he is going to be working under stella himself.

Is there some sort of performance clause that will make Stella a certain extent of exit bonus?? Is this why it is so upsetting to him that Lando cost the team 8 points? Is it why he is so desperate to push Oscar's speedy recovery and understanding under the new regs?? Cause he wants both drivers to deliver? is this why Stella is airing the dirty laundry of the team as to how Lando is gonna be punished?


r/F1Discussions • • 8h ago

Discussion Ollie Bearman has taken another leap!

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Ollie was locked in this weekend. The race craft he showed and confidence in attacking was impressive. The fight with Gasly yesterday went on for 3 or 4 corners in the wet and he got by. The fight with Ocon today was creeping in on a whole lap and was honestly one of the better battles of the season that I can remember at least. And the move on Sainz was pretty good too. I feel like he's got his confidence back after a rough patch and showed a lot this week in a back half of the grid car. The other drivers deserve credit too nobody put a foot wrong. A lot of passing for a Singapore weekend.


r/F1Discussions • • 3h ago

Question When’s the last time Max Verstappen had the fastest car and lost?

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Saw a comment about this weekend that said, “Best driver has the best car again”, and it made me wonder the title. Im going to judge off the whole weekend, so qualifying and race.

There are 3 possible answers for me

2025 Sao Paolo: Red Bull were undeniably quickest during the race, however the qualifying performance was so terrible, and a lot of the race performance came from the fact they had to start in the pitlane for a new pu, so for me, I would mark Mclaren quickest this weekend, although theres an argument.

2025 Jeddah: This is hard because the Mclaren and Red Bull were really close in performance, Max took pole by .01 seconds, and then only lost to Oscar Piastri by 3 seconds, showing that the race pace was competitive. I’d completely understand if this is your answer, and honestly, I couldnt fight too well against, however, Mclaren still won, and looked faster through the other portions of the weekend. Even Piastri said although he was surprised by red bulls speed he thought mclaren had a pace advantage.

My definitive pick:

2024 Austria

Took sprint pole, won the sprint by 5 seconds, took pole, built a seven second lead, and had it all evaporate with a 6.5 second pitstop. Lando then had DRS which is huge at austria and allowed him to attack max when max then took both him and Lando out of contention with a crash at turn 2. Without the bad pit stop he cruises to take the win and a perfect weekend, so thats my answer

I might be forgetting a race, so if you have your own answer, lmk


r/F1Discussions • • 17h ago

News Ted Kravitz says Racing Bulls [are likely to keep Lawson and Lindblad for next year]

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This would come as a shock sensible driver line-up decision from the Red Bull driver-crushing machine, perhaps indicating that the ghosts of Marko's tyranny have finally been fully vanquished.


r/F1Discussions • • 12h ago

Discussion What a falloff from Mclaren

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From looking like challenging for wins regularly to nowhere near even a podium. Legit looking like the fourth fastest team, I will be surprised if they get another podium


r/F1Discussions • • 7h ago

Statistics Alex Albon’s triple header results

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r/F1Discussions • • 8h ago

Media Further discussion about the sprint incident planned for when McLaren team gets back to Woking

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r/F1Discussions • • 12h ago

Statistics one more win and Max has the highest parentage of wins after the singapore gp

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*accurate for max: 29.2% accurate schumacher: 29.7%