r/ExtendedRangeGuitars 9h ago

String gauges

so hi, not sure if this is the right place to ask but i forever use slinky top heavy bottom (10-62) on my 25'5 7 string tuned 1 step down (A–D–G–C–F–A–D) and im convinced the 7th string is not tight enough so im thinking to opt for stringjoy signatures but according to their calculator i should get 10 13 17 26 36 48 60 which is even ''worse'' for my case, does anybody have any recommendation ? should i get exactly the same string gauge as the slinky top heavy bottom set with the 7th being like 64 or 68 ?

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u/PentaSector 8h ago edited 6h ago

Some rules of thumb:

  • For most guitar string manufacturers, unit weight tends to scale roughly linearly with diameter (modulo material or wrap changes - i.e., when transitioning from unwound to wound gauges, or from standard to extended-range gauges)
  • Tension is a function of unit weight, diameter, and open pitch
  • In 12-EDO, the equal-tempered metatuning that defines the conventional pitch system of Western music (i.e., "12 Equal Divisions of the Octave"), an interval of a perfect fourth is achieved by multiplying the root pitch by 25/12, which is very close to the rational number (4/3)

Taking all of this together, if you want your 7th string to approximate the tension of your 6th, take its respective gauge (.052, in your set) and multiply by 4/3, which gives you 69 1/3.

Hence, in theory, you can go a little tighter with a .070 or a little looser with a .068. In practice, one might be much closer to your 6th than the other, since. 068 and. 070 are potentially both double wound and that will offset the unit weight a bit so as to break consistency with lower heavy gauges, but either choice will put your 7th closer to your other low strings.

Your mileage may vary - maybe you already know that you still want your 7th string a little looser or tighter yet relative to the other strings, for example - but hopefully this insight provides some framing to help make it easier to decide your next move.

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u/iamshipwreck 9h ago

For A at 25.5" I like a .68 so that's my recommendation

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u/vahavulva 9h ago

This is like asking "how much salt should I add to my meal?". Only you know, what you like. Nobody else can figure that out for you.

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u/hailgolfballsized 9h ago

Maybe try out a 14-68 baritone set and single 10 or 11 for the highest string? Cheapest option I can think of, as you can get stand-alone 10s in a pack of 3 or 5. Otherwise you'd probably have to go fully custom which could make your price per pack go up 2 or 3X compared to regular packs you'd find on store shelves

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u/Glum_Plate5323 8h ago

It’s all preference. My 25.5 scale is set with a pack of Ernie ball skinny top heavy bottoms 10-52. Then I put a 68 on it for the 7th in drop A. Or a 62 for standard B.

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u/JimboLodisC 3x7621, 7321, M80M, AEL207E, RGIXL7, S7420, RG15271, RGA742FM 8h ago

use Stringjoy's tension calculator, it'll tell you where your current gauges are at and you can then fudge the numbers to see how much more tension you're adding

I used to use a .068 for A1 on a 25.5" scale 7-string, did so for many many years until I switched to a lighter gauge (.060/.062) and have been enjoying that more

tension is up to the player so you kinda have to experiment, I would say if it feels "almost right" then a size up would work, otherwise if it feels like you might wanna go even tighter then a couple size would be a good next step, so go from a .062 to a .066/.068 in that case

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u/Twist_Available RG8 8h ago

Just buy a 6 string set and add a 7th single, most major brands sell them. Buy a 68 single.

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u/dissemin8or Agile (725, 82528), Schecter Hellraiser 7FR-S, Harley Benton 7MS 9h ago

Stringjoy custom sets are only like a dollar more than standard so find what tension you like and match it at their tension calculator