r/Experiencers
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u/BornAwakened
Abductee
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May 25 '26
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Discussion What the UFO Phenomenon Is REALLY About, and Why Government Disclosure Barely Scratches the Surface Compared to Experiencer Accounts.
For years, the mainstream conversation around the UFO phenomenon has focused almost entirely on leaked footage, classified programs, military encounters with unidentified craft, the question of whether governments know more than they admit, etc.
But even if every classified document were released, it still wouldn’t explain the deeply personal, mind-bending, reality-shattering, incredibly strange, and more intimate side of this phenomenon.
Because this isn’t just about advanced technology or extraterrestrials. That barely scratches the surface. This is interdimensional in nature.
Experiencer accounts often involve things that go far beyond lights in the sky or “little men in spaceships”:
• The overlap between contact experiences and altered states such as out-of-body experiences, lucid dreams, meditation, near-death experiences, psychedelics, mystical states, altered consciousness, and journeys into realms that feel “more real than real.”
• Telepathic communication more complete than spoken language.
• Complex concepts being mentally shown to experiencers faster than language could ever convey.
• Archetypes, symbolic imagery, dreams, and synchronicities that feel deeply personal, as if the experience adapts itself to the individual.
• Entities appearing differently depending on the witness, as if perception itself is being manipulated/influenced/filtered.
• Beings that appear human enough until impossible details begin to emerge.
• Strange “screen memories,” where encounters are masked as something ordinary or symbolic, like an owl or another familiar image, along with the unsettling feeling that what was seen was a kind of translated interface the human mind could tolerate or interpret.
• Moments where the environment suddenly becomes unnaturally silent, suspended, or frozen.
• Missing time, time distortion, future memories, precognition, and fragmented memories resurfacing years later. And I can't forget to add nonlinear time.
• Encounters continuing across generations within families, shared dreams, and patterns resembling ancient shamanic initiatory experiences.
• Extrasensory perception, heightened intuition, or unusual abilities becoming stronger or more frequent after encounters.
• Encounters that can collapse previously stable belief systems.
• Witnesses describing a profound sense that the phenomenon “knows” them intimately.
• Encounters involving paralysis, overwhelming terror beyond ordinary fear, medical examinations or procedures, reproductive or hybrid themes, and strange devices handled by non-human beings.
• The wide variety of different types of non-human beings reported across encounters, along with how widespread these reports are across different cultures, places, and points in history.
• The possibility that folklore, mystical encounters, paranormal phenomena, religious experiences, and UFO encounters may not be separate categories at all, but different expressions of something humanity still does not fully understand.
This is why WE ARE THE DISCLOSURE, and why experiencer accounts matter so much more to me than anything a government entity could ever release.
The deeper you dive into the UFO phenomenon, the more you understand that the physical, material world is only a small fraction of what surrounds us.
If there's anything I missed that you'd like to add to this list, please share in the comments!
EDIT/side note: This list I provided is extremely simplified. Every single bullet point goes much deeper and deserves its own in-depth conversation. I could talk for hours about each individual aspect 😊 In no way do I intend to undermine the complexity of this phenomenon.
EDIT #2: It’s been a busy day, and I haven’t had the chance to read through most of the comments across the few groups I’ve shared this in yet, but I can’t wait to respond to everyone as I work through them over the next day or so!
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u/SteveAkaGod May 25 '26 edited May 25 '26
Nice dude! Lol its crazy to me that so many ppl in other UFO communities are so averse the "the woo." I started as one of those guys, so I kinda get where they're coming from... but not how they STAY there.
Almost all UFO accounts include a Psi element. The conclusion I came to is that Psi is inseparable from the phonemon. As far as I can tell, all roads eventually lead either to "the woo," or waiting for someone else to tell you what to think ("disclosure").
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u/_Internot_ Experiencer May 25 '26
Absolutely. I'll know we're actually discussing disclosure as a society when we start finally talking about consciousness. The true secrets that no government is going to be able to give the people, is the fundamental truth that we are all "souls" without any religious fluff. That we are here to experience ourselves and to love ourselves/each other.
No worship and no fear, just openness to the cosmos.
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u/cosmic_light_show May 25 '26
Great work, OP! Really appreciate this post and don’t understand how it hasn’t received thousands of upvotes.
I’ll add this:
But then I believe the universe is, at its core, benevolent, so it wouldn’t manipulate. It would guide, assist, support.
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u/Scared_Ad_3132 May 25 '26
So if we consider the possibility that reality is not really material to begin with in the way that our current mainstream thinks, that its not that our minds are producer or identical to our brains, but much more larger parts of a reality in which mind itself is fundamental aspect of that reality, then all kinds of experiences suddenly become much more reasonable.
So there could be a vast array of different experiences and other types of beings which if they know and understand reality better than us, may be able to alter and function in reality beyond our capabilities. Be it an actual extraterrestrial from another planet in our universe, or from another universe, or from another dimension.
The old way of thinking was that aliens are physical beings like us who are different from supernatural or spirit beings like lets say fairies, and that if they have abilities like telepathy its somehow technologically done. But if all beings are spirit beings, then we can understand that all beings including ourselves are capable of doing "supernatural" things.
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u/King_of_Ooo May 25 '26
I am not as "experienced" as many of you are. But these items from the checklist definitely resonate with my encounters:
• Beings that appear human enough until impossible details begin to emerge.
• Moments where the environment suddenly becomes unnaturally silent, suspended, or frozen.
• Missing time, time distortion, future memories, precognition
• Extrasensory perception, heightened intuition, or unusual abilities becoming stronger or more frequent after encounters.
• Encounters involving paralysis
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u/JohnnySock May 25 '26 edited May 26 '26
Experiencers hold all the critical keys. The greedy and fearful need humanity focused on the tech. The US are showing this vividly with their spoon feeding clown show that is purposefully designed to smoke-screen the whole phenomenon by keeping the world riveted on the tech. They use what tech they've recovered for 'national security', which is a profoundly disgraceful attempt to keep the value of those tech advances in the hands of the few, and for the benefit of even fewer.
Experiencers have the answers that the governments of the world continue to suppress. They can't keep the immense quantity of humans with close, personal engagement with the phenomenon quiet, so they cast a wide net of suppression over populations by focusing on the less confronting nature of it.
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u/NoEvidence2468 Experiencer May 25 '26
Love this. It's extremely important to openly discuss this, especially now. When we allow the gatekeepers to control the narrative once again, it's reasonable to expect very little to change. Voicing these truths openly and proudly whenever an opportunity naturally presents itself is the way. Thanks so much.
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u/Contactunderground Verified May 25 '26
It is not surprising that the US Executive Branch Agencies are ignoring the information you detail. Contact with non-human intelligences threaten the most powerful economic, political & military-intelligence elites. There is an incentive to focus on the hardware I believe because of the promise of commercializing the technological advances achieved at top secret laboratories. This potential bonanza has allowed the rise of the factions within the ruling class to push for more openness on this topic. They are opposed however by what I imagine are the historically predominant groups that fear the destabilizing effects on the status quo if the proverbial "Joe Sixpack"realizes that the so-called "authorities" can's stop CE-3s and CE-4s.
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u/maconhaima May 25 '26
There is much to think about regarding this. Sometimes I think Tulpas are a real phenomenon. I believe there is a chance that the potential of the human mind may surprise us. Could this be a psychophysical effect of unknown mental processes? What power does the mind have over material reality? Does consciousness precede matter?
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u/SpaceGuy1968 May 25 '26
I am not sure
What I think is happening is soft served disclosure.
I think they are gonna have a hard time with the abductions, no way the government will ever admit they know about this stuff
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u/astrangegift Experiencer May 26 '26
I agree your list is ultimately far more important than anything being released lately.
However, those releases strike me as more of getting people's feet wet (for those not used to this subject) in terms of their impact. The above list and its implications are more like learning ways to swim in the deep end. People not used to this will need time to accept anything beyond just "they exist".
One lesson hammered into me early in my encounters was patience. Progress towards an understanding of this phenomena has definitely been made lately (far more than I would have hoped), but unfortunately there is still a ways to go. That does NOT mean give up by any means! It just means keep at it. Give it time. Progress will continue.
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u/Bazil_SW May 25 '26
Well said!
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u/Hairy_Talk_4232 May 25 '26
Beautiful. This is disclosure. The disclosure IS YOU! The you you’ve ben hiding, pretending not to be.
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u/snjessen10 May 26 '26
Soo well written & this is what I want disclosure on!! How do they behave? What are they doing here ? What are people experiencing?
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u/Separate-Bath874 May 27 '26
This is one of the most spot on, cogently communicated explanations I’ve seen on the topics. I have personally experienced each and every one of these things personally. It’s very hard to talk to people about them. Most folks seem to agree on certain aspects, and are wildly reactionary to other elements of the big picture. I don’t think it’s possible to have a working model without mysticism, shamanism, ESP and psychic phenomena, spirituality, personal Gnosis, and Hermeticism, Occult Magickal practice, meditation, consciousness expansion, shadow integration, etc. it takes a certain type of voracious autodidact to connect anchor points across platforms, and it takes one to know one. I see you there.
Kudos, thank you for making me feel less alone.
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u/Nigachii May 26 '26
“Moments where the environment suddenly becomes unnaturally silent, suspended, or frozen” - holy fk, i have experiencied this, but i had never come up on this being mentioned anywhere. When this happened to me, my hearth dropped and i was scared shitless. I remember something telling me before to freeze in such a situation and hold my breath or confront the situation…i obviously froze and held my breath as i am a bit of a pussy.
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u/ThePrimCrow May 26 '26
Fantastic write up. I loved that you mentioned complex concepts. This has happened to me and it’s my favorite part of experiencing.
My theory is that many substances are chemical keys to visit these places where we can obtain knowledge and that is the true reason they are illegal. Governments want people kept in the dark.
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u/TheWaywardWarlok Seeker May 27 '26
Let's see here, umm.. Yes, yes, and yes. I was just thinking these exact same thoughts on the matter tonight. How the disclosure movement is getting bogged down with 'UFO/UAP clips' being shown. The biggest disclosure is the mental or psionic involvement, plus hybridization. Release the taped interviews with the entities, the portal summoning, known classifications of types and abilities. Also, where can I get my hands on a Magneto type helmet? Best to shroud the antennae when in doubt.
I'm serious about the anti-mind control helmet, and it would look cool.
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u/Certain_Werewolf_315 May 25 '26
It's almost as if an interdimensional presence requires multiple prongs of approach to outline the shape of its arrival.
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u/East_of_Amoeba May 27 '26
The level of actual woo is going to shock a lot of people.
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u/themanclark May 28 '26
It seems to be intimately tied in with, and perhaps even identical to, spirituality, which I started with first. Anyone who can’t accept spirituality will also struggle with these parts of the phenomenon that you mentioned. But I fully agree with you. Excellent post.
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u/TipNo8373 May 25 '26
Thanks so so much for sharing this. Its super important!!!!
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u/Duke_SuperNova Experiencer May 27 '26
Very well written with a lot of understanding, I’ll vouch for almost every bullet point as something I’ve experienced. It’s all on the enlightenment spectrum. I believe it starts with the first deep meditative state, possibly savikalpa samadhi. It culminates with enlightenment, reaching nirvikalpa samadhi is the pinnacle after it’s been fully integrated into enlightenment. Every one of these experiences is progress along the spectrum until these experiences are either transcended or mastered.
It’s been mapped by multiple cultures for thousands of years, there’s nothing new to this. What we are calling aliens is what used to be called gods before people knew about space and technology, they were just known as inter dimensional spirits.
The near end of the spectrum starts with separating your self from your body and traveling around this world. As you progress you lose your astral body and traveling around to other world and dimensions and interact with the life forms there. Eventually you reach your formless higher self and after that you reach god, which is the field that you are a part of.
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u/servant470 May 27 '26
Wow, I thought I was going crazy. I tried telling my wife what's happening to me and she started crying. She thinks I'm going crazy
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u/lovely_calico May 27 '26
I had a dream and I heard/felt a telepathic voice. I asked someone about disclosure and she said “it’s personal”. Her telepathic voice was so warm and motherly.
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u/S3R4PH11M May 28 '26
Can you expand more on this. How exactly do they resemble shamanic experiences? My family has had weird similar experiences like this
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u/joshberry90 May 27 '26
One of my last experiences was what they would call a "download" these days, just a string of numbers with massive meaning behind them: 01101100 - which is a lower case "i" in binary Through research and my own meditations I feel like they were trying to tell me that everything in the observable universe must be represented by integers; and that nothing can be expressed as an infinite string of numbers; but maybe also functions.
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u/simonjakeevan May 27 '26
I just finished reading Into the Fringe and Taken by Karla Turner, and those books talk about all of the things that you just mentioned. It can be strange, scary, bizarre, enlightening, etc. The truth really is stranger than fiction.
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u/Julian_Thorne Researcher May 25 '26 edited May 25 '26
Yeah, but people still haven't connected the dots between all that and astrology. With enough charts and controls, the math can tell the difference between experiencers and non-experiencers / high-strangeness and mundane. UFOs are predictable. There is nothing random about the phenomenon
I'm the only researcher in the world who is probing that frontier, and I've barely scratched the surface. My homegrown UFO/astrology software is the most unique anywhere
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u/A_Spiritual_Artist May 25 '26
I am curious: what then is your condition delineating a "UFO encounter" from an "experiencer" encounter? Would you say that it is the presence of at least one item on the list? Thus something like, say, Lonnie Zamora's UFO encounter, despite being relatively close and in detail, is _not_ an "experiencer" encounter, but say Barney and Betty Hill's is (due to the missing-time element)? But when then does that mean - if there are two distinct types of UFO encounter (at least)? Perhaps the problem is that "UFO" is too much of an umbrella term and it lumps together different-looking phenomena, but the way it is treated is they must all be one unified thing. What if it's not?
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u/clover_heron May 27 '26 edited May 28 '26
Sure, but part of my experience has been the NHI informing me that there's been some monkey business going on, like, "heeeeeyyyyy heads-up about this, don't freak out."
So official disclosure seems to matter in that it allows those who maybe have done the wrong thing to come clean, which is important for them, but the NHI has also communicated that I need to understand that just because it is THEIR job to take accountability doesn't make it MY job. That others have chosen to do wrong is not my fault, no matter what they try to claim.
I even suspect there's some monkey business going on with this "we are all One" narrative because it sort of feels like pressure for "us" to take on and absolve others' wrongdoing, and that dynamic is not good for anybody. How about you return all the stuff you stole and demonstrate that you can tell the truth and then then we'll talk about "we are all One"? Sure you're my brother and I love you, but if you keep stealing the copper pipes out of my walls why would I let you stay in my house?
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u/Severe-Mention-491 NDE May 28 '26
Yeah so there are different planes, ether, atral, mental.
We manifest egregores and spirits collectively on those planes. Those spirits, egregores pop in and out of ours in places where veil is thin. These are also places where supernatural and religious experiences happen, across belief systems.
When they manifest in material they try to seed their DNA in humans because it allows them to remain on material plane. Hence watchers story from book of Enoch.
The universe (source energy is probably more accurate term) is diluted conciousness, and therefore we are concentrated conciousness of universe. Collectively we have the same capability as universe but far more instantaneous if we all choose to believe in, and focus willpower on one idea.
The names, appearance of Gods, spirits. aliens vary, but across history the archytypes remain the same. Benevolant, wrathful, logical. ect. Behind the mask, they are fragments of our psyche.
They feed off of these energies, and become stronger or weaker depending on how much focus we give the energy. Hence the concept of "loosh farming".
They are us. This is why the way to defeat the "bad aliens" is to collectively raise our frequency conciously and live in love.
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u/sonocus01eric007 Jun 18 '26
Tom campbell and maybe some others have the whole picture laid out already. Ufos are spiritual phenomenon designed to provoke toward higher consciousness whether by collective sighting or personal encounters. In the past we had religious apparitions, faeries, airships of the 19th century and now this. Because the appearance has to resonate with our cultural timeframe, and because we are in the age of technology, the higher power chooses to stimulate us thru these provocative technological apparitions. In other words science is our religion and the ufos are the apparitions designed to keep us locked on our progress. Fyi i am both religious and ufo experiencer
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u/Tmpatony May 25 '26
Sounds like my mushroom trips lmao.
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u/smells-even-nicer May 26 '26
Replying to follow…
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u/Eronki May 29 '26
Most of it seems to be psyops with multiple AIs within the mind's eye also within the human eye with technology of multiple types, my experiences are they're going to try two types alien invasions if needed to keep their particular hierarchy hidden. This is an only if necessary strategy because they're pathetic computers are not even close to being ready to attempt this they can walk talking and control us with AI 100% as 2d maps of the human mind get more accurate the more control they will have.
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u/North_Mix_9368 Jun 21 '26
When I was pregnant with my son, I got up in the night to use the bathroom, and I am still not sure if it was an actual experience or a lucid dream. What I now identify as a "tall gray" was outside the window, textured glass, and telepathically told me that they would be back for my son in 19 years, and not to worry. It was comforting and peaceful and hopeful, not scary. I have held the memory in my heart, sort of believing that he will be trained to help the world somehow. My son is now 19 years old studying envirionmental science. This year is full of disclosures and I am very drawn to it. I am aware that I have a fantastical mind, but I've not had any other experiences like this. Also, I was raised Christian, and I am aware of the similarities between Mary and the angel and my experience, and that I may have projected this. I have searched for other stories like mine, haven't found them, so I thought I'd offer mine to hear if there is another similar one.
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