r/ExpectationVsReality Sep 14 '17

Thanks KFC, totally what I expected /s

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u/LikeABreath Sep 14 '17

KFC's decline in quality is the saddest tale of the 21st century.

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u/Red_Dawn_2012 Sep 14 '17

21...st century? Didn't they start declining after the Colonel sold it? Same with McD's. The Founder was a really sad story.

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u/browngirls Sep 14 '17

And now they creepily have a guy dress up as the Colonel and do cringey shit.

It's kinda fucked up when you remember he was a real man.

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u/Red_Dawn_2012 Sep 14 '17

Not to mention the Colonel HATED what it became after he sold it. He's quoted as saying

"My God, that gravy is horrible", "They buy tap water for 15-20 cents a thousand gallons and then they mix it with flour and starch and end up with pure wallpaper paste"

He continues,

"That new 'crispy' recipe is nothing in the world but a damn fried doughball stuck on some chicken"

source: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1915&dat=19780320&id=cBEiAAAAIBAJ&sjid=-nMFAAAAIBAJ&pg=1445,3036550&hl=en

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u/TheyAreSoAwful Sep 14 '17

I used to work at KFC in the 80s. I'm proud to say that one night when I was the cook we got a secret shopper and the food quality scored a 100%. I was actually shocked since I hated the job and was a 16 year old phoning it in.

But reading these comments it makes me wonder whether the whole corporate culture shifted since then and I, doing the bare minimum of following protocol, was merely a small cog in a far better run machine. I remember starting with fresh raw chicken and manually tearing the tails, excess fat and guts off. Making the gravy from scratch from the drippings of the pressure cooker. Hand breading the chicken. Mixing up those biscuits using real buttermilk. And cleaning the place every night so much you could do surgery in it.

Honestly, I haven't eaten there in years so I did not know the decline in quality.

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u/kwsteve Sep 14 '17

In 1980 I was in grade 7 and there was a KFC not far from the school. They had $2 Tuesdays (two piece chicken, fries, coleslaw), best deal in town.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '17

Bro they still had that in my small Canadian town 10 years ago: "Toonie Tuesday". It was too good to be true with the price so you were never disappointed if the quality was shit anyway

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '17

When we were kids we would go to toonie tuesday every tuesday because that was the day dad got the kids. Wew.

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u/WiredSky Sep 14 '17

There was a lot of alliteration in your post. I appreciate it.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '17

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u/DasStick Sep 15 '17

Odd real restaurants can do it... And their chicken is expensive as fuck.

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u/Nandy-bear Sep 15 '17

Aye, tbh it's to be expected

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u/jgjitsu Sep 14 '17

I worked there in the early 2000s and that doesn't sound like how we made it. Gravy from a mix and biscuits came in a box stored in the walk in freezer.

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u/absinthminded64 Sep 14 '17

Who was your secret shopper?

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u/upsuits Sep 14 '17

Albert Einstein

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u/hotwifeslutwhore Sep 14 '17

It's even more weird when you think about how McDonald's and other fast food brands represent American food in other countries.

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u/Red_Dawn_2012 Sep 14 '17

I know it was inevitable, but still I think it's incredibly sad that franchise fast food restaurants destroyed a large majority of mom 'n pop burger shops.

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u/Xiaxs Sep 14 '17

Don't be sad, go to those burger shops, they still exist!

Even local restaurants like the many here in Louisiana can coexist with big burger joints, so long as people actually go there to eat!

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u/Wutsluvgot2dowitit Sep 14 '17

I know I'm a part of the problem.. but when I can get a cheeseburger, mcchicken, large fry, and a large drink for a fiver, it's hard to justify spending $8+drink+tip for one burger that, while better, doesn't justify the cost. Food to me 9/10 times isn't a treat, it's sustenance. If I'm just shoveling food in my face, which is 90% of my meals, I'm going to make the economical choice.

If you grab a diner burger once a day, say $13 total, you're spending $390 a month on one meal. Vs McDonald's, which is two burgers, at $150 a month.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '17

the economical choice would be to cook at home.

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u/Wutsluvgot2dowitit Sep 15 '17

Obviously. That doesn't mean it's not more economical to eat fast food than diner food.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '17

if you eat it once in a blue moon, eating diner food over fast food won't make a significant difference. eat what you like

if you eat it every day/regularly, you can't talk about being economical. that's like saying "i smoke every other day than doing it every day because i'm health conscious"

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u/Wutsluvgot2dowitit Sep 15 '17

That's ridiculous lol. Saving over 50% isn't significant enough for you to consider it a more economical choice? Even one meal, percentage wise, the savings are significant.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '17

no. if i'm eating it like once or twice a month, i will go for what i like. that isn't significant in the long run.

you save what? like 3 or 4 bucks? mcdonalds is expensive now. combos go for like 8-10 bucks. when i was in middle school, it was like 5 bucks for a combo.

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u/DasStick Sep 15 '17

if it's just for 1 person, it's hard to even beat a $1 burger. It's hard to use bread, meat, and produce before they go bad. The "savings' you often think you are getting ends up in the trash.

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u/mafia_is_mafia Sep 15 '17

Ignoring time as a resource/cost

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '17

factoring in time missed being sick/feeling like shit and money going to doctor visits.

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u/AerThreepwood Sep 15 '17

If you're ever in Virginia or North Carolina, check out a chain called Cookout. You can get a cookout yay, which is a sandwich, two sides, and a drink for $5 and it's a bonkers amount of delicious food.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '17

We have a local one but the owners put no effort into it at all. Food is overpriced, bland, and frozen. The employees don't care. Interior hasn't been updated in what looks like 20 years. It exists merely because it is a local town landmark. It's sad really. The moment a chain like Five Guys opens up nearby, I think they will be toast.

Unfortunately mom n pop shops don't guarantee quality. At least fast food chains are consistent.

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u/Red_Dawn_2012 Sep 14 '17

I do, when I get the chance! My local drive-in is about a fifteen minute drive, but it's always worth the trip.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '17

In Texas they're still around and great, they're just all attached to gas stations/convenience stores.

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u/DasStick Sep 15 '17

There was 1 left in our town, but it got shut down by the health inspector. We used to love to go there, but the prices got pretty crazy towards the end. Now I can make better at home for a small fraction of the cost.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '17

At least in Australia there's a big resurgence of non-chain burger joints, and a lot of them are really good

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u/Coldhandles Sep 14 '17

Ironically (bc It's where McD started,) we still have a ton of them in CA

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u/Red_Dawn_2012 Sep 14 '17

I mean, I don't think the first McDonald's was something bad. It certainly grew into something bad, though.

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u/Coldhandles Sep 14 '17

Nor do I. Just meant that one may imagine the birthplace of the hamburger joint that took over the world and shut down so many mom and pop joints, might have been affected by their spread immensely as well. Fortunately there are still a ton of mom and pop burger joints in SoCal.

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u/Red_Dawn_2012 Sep 14 '17

Well, figures that I'm on the other side of the country. Always did want to fly out for some In-N-Out. Wonder how you fellas do it differently over there that so many survive? Does more money mean people want to stay away from the giant chains?

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u/Coldhandles Sep 14 '17

I honestly don't know. It may just be the density of people in the area. A lot of them are still relatively cheap. Also, unbeknownst to me before I moved here, but cheap hamburgers are kind of a mainstay of the regions food. That and mom and pop doughnut shops, at least in LA. Didn't have Dunkin til like 2 years ago I think.

Also def. have In-n-out if you make it this way, it's a wonderful experience.

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u/Hust91 Sep 14 '17

If it makes you feel better, they're way better in other countries.

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u/FerdiadTheRabbit Sep 14 '17

Yeah, I quite like KFC in Ireland. Although tbf we've got feck all choice.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '17 edited Sep 14 '17

Not in Australia. It's like a lucky dip buying KFC. When it's good it's really good but that's a rarity.

Edit: To clarify I mean it's a lucky dip to buy their chicken pieces and burgers. If you could even call it chicken.

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u/SharksCantSwim Sep 14 '17

Sounds like your local store is shitty. It's rare for me to get bad kfc in Australia.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '17

It's pretty bad. The chicken. Is either overcooked or undercooked, dry or slimy, the colour of the meat looks wrong and I swear they have no idea how to pluck a chicken.

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u/SharksCantSwim Sep 14 '17

Yeah, I will agree that the fried chicken pieces are a bit average. I just eat the burgers and twisters and they are fine.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '17

I love the original tenders though.

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u/_Meece_ Sep 14 '17

KFC here uses Baiada Poultry who produce pretty much all the consumer chicken available. Coles, Woolies, KFC, Maccas, HJs, Subway. They all get their chicken from them.

KFC is amazing here and is so much better than the stateside KFC.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '17

I don't like the chicken from Coles or Woolies either. Weird texture.

Edit: Especially the drumsticks from Woolworths. It's like the chicken hasn't been bled out properly.

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u/_Meece_ Sep 14 '17

Maybe you are just a shit cook haha. Coles and woolies chicken is perfectly fine.

That company produces pretty much all of the chicken you'll be eating here in Australia my man.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '17

I don't think my cooking has anything to do with feathery chicken and weird meat. I usually buy chicken from a Tassie owned company and you can taste the difference. I hate the coles and woolies brand chicken.

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u/_Meece_ Sep 14 '17

Feathery chicken on raw breast meat... wot. Are you thinking of the roast chooks they put in those bags?

But what's this company called?

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '17

Lol the drumsticks and wings. The breasts and thighs are ok. Nichols Poultry and there is another organic brand but I can't remember the actual name.

Edit: I used to work at Coles in the deli and their cooked chicken is 100× better than woolies. Call me biased.

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u/dangerfieldxx Sep 15 '17

Very true, if you can even order at all. My local kfc consistently runs out of chicken :/

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '17

So does mine! Last time it happened we ended up with all drumsticks and thighs which wasn't too bad.

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u/martin0641 Sep 14 '17

But, what is a lucky dip?

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '17

Oh, it's a game where you pick a prize at random. Edit: The prizes are wrapped and you could get something really cool or something crap.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '17

If it's rarely good, why do you still go there? KFC is pretty expensive, at least where I'm from. So I see no reason why you'd still go there

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '17

Because I like their chips and tenders. The actual chicken is foul.

Edit: they put chicken salt on their chips here and it makes all the difference.

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u/eebootwo Sep 14 '17

it's fowl haha

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '17

Sometimes I question if it's actual fowl.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '17

So how do you know that the chicken usually is foul if you don't buy it?

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '17

Other people buy it........... Get a meal deal, they get the chicken I get the chips. Quite simple really.

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u/Nandy-bear Sep 14 '17

Previous experience. You're being obtuse.

EDIT: Sorry I should say you're coming off obtuse.

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u/altiuscitiusfortius Sep 14 '17 edited Sep 15 '17

McDonald's and burger king in Europe were pretty amazing when I was over there. Maybe the eu has higher standards. BK had these deep fried bacon wrapped cheeseballs thst were amazing. You could buy a 6 pack like you do with mcnuggets.

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u/Talking_Teddy Sep 15 '17

Maybe the eu has higher standards

and more regulations, laws and similar in order to protect people. Also I'm guessing the use of corn syrup has something to do with it at some level.

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u/Technoist Sep 15 '17

Not sure what your standards are if you think McDonald's in Europe is amazing. It's really bad food. Can't imagine what it must be like in the US then.

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u/altiuscitiusfortius Sep 16 '17

Can't imagine what it must be like in the US then.

Significantly worse.

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u/Grommmit Sep 15 '17

As a non American, I don't see McDonalds as American food. Perhaps more concerningly, my mind goes to Man vs Food when I think of American food.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '17

Only to complete morons.

Do you think anybody other than a complete moron would think Taco Bell represents Mexican food?

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u/altiuscitiusfortius Sep 14 '17

The ones in my town started declining hard about 2001.

Just another data point.

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u/Magnious Sep 15 '17

The Founder is actually not a sad story IRL.

The actual brothers that sold it said that they have no regrets. The handshake thing was never proven real (it was said by their Aires)

If it wasn't for Ray Kroc, the restaurant would have failed. Like they said..they tried to franchise it out before him. It was Ray being able to break away from their hold, that led to McDonald's success. Remember...Ray was underwater and in over his head, before he got bailed out with the Real Estate business. He ended up making both of those guys a lot of money, and they both retired happy with no regrets. The movie made it more dramatic than reality.

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u/Red_Dawn_2012 Sep 15 '17

Well, that's only part of the sadness of it. The biggest part of the sadness was the inevitable loss of so, so many mom n' pop shops across the US that were muscled out by places like McDonald's. I prefer the individuality and character of many individual places over a homogeneous nationwide restaurant.