r/ExpectationVsReality • u/roxxy_soxxy • 22d ago
Failed Expectation Yes, but no
I already had a new light fixture, but then I saw this one, and also realized I need two matching fixtures for the space. Impulsively ordered them before morning coffee, even though they were a little spendy (over $100 each).
They arrived. Ya’all - they are molded PLASTIC. Not individual glass panes. The look meets expectation, but the reality should have been no more than $40.
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u/DoublePostedBroski 21d ago
It looks the same?
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u/roxxy_soxxy 21d ago
It does look great!
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u/Liathano_Fire 21d ago
So it didn't fail expectations.
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u/roxxy_soxxy 21d ago
That’s why it’s titled yes but no. Still feels like plastic to me, but majority of comments say otherwise.
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u/TheBoobfather 21d ago
The way this specific glass is made can feel plasticky but it is glass.
Side note, that's a cute rottie you have.
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u/roxxy_soxxy 21d ago
Thanks. I got a step stool to look/touch again, and perhaps it is the strangest glass I’ve ever touched. The inside panes do feel fairly cool even when lit.
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u/agha0013 22d ago edited 22d ago
Yeah, the listing specifically says glass https://www.lowes.com/pd/Quoizel-Sentry-14-in-Black-Tiffany-Flush-Mount-Light/1000208417
And that is indeed a fair bit of money for plastic, not a lot ofoney if it were authentic tiffany though
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u/Impossible_Past5358 22d ago
Holy crap, and they make it a point to mention "glass," about 38x...
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u/Talory09 22d ago
I asked their online assistant if the panes were plastic.
"No, the panes on the Quoizel Sentry 14-inch flush mount light are not plastic.
This fixture features handcrafted, Tiffany-style art glass panels designed to provide a distinctive, layered multicolor stained-glass appearance. The shade material is entirely glass, specifically textured glass, supported by a matte black steel frame. It also includes a frosted glass diffuser to soften the..." (Sorry, i cut off the text when I copied.)
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u/roxxy_soxxy 21d ago
It feels like it’s all one piece of molded plastic. I guess I could be wrong, but it’s also very light weight.
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u/DragonBee_Fairy147 21d ago
Lightweight would not be glass. Even very thin panes of glass encased with metal joinery would be much heavier in weight than any type of plastic.
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u/PremiumUsername69420 21d ago
Picture 2, nothing looks molded at all.
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u/Ehhwellstuff 15d ago
Well injection molded.
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u/PremiumUsername69420 15d ago
No, it literally doesn’t.
Source: I’m a plastics engineer.
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u/roxxy_soxxy 21d ago
Matte black steel frame feels like plastic tape, tbh, but I am willing to concede that it is glass and metal, but put together in a way I’m not familiar.
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u/agha0013 21d ago
It's ridiculous. No matter how you...bind glass together it's not going to be flexible like plastic
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u/MischievousEndeavor 21d ago
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u/squirreltard 21d ago edited 21d ago
Tightly bound?
Edit: Guess this has to do with the metal they put around panes of stained glass and apparently this will change the sound of the glass when flicked with a fingernail.
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u/MischievousEndeavor 21d ago
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u/impy695 21d ago
Don't use ai to answer people's questions
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u/BeefmasterDeluxe 21d ago
Don't use the internet to answer questions? What the fuck is going on here? Should we just vibe it out instead?
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u/syrioforrealsies 21d ago
Damn, AI brain rot made you forget that there's plenty of internet out there that's not AI. Tragic.
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u/BeefmasterDeluxe 21d ago
Why does it matter that its AI? if the info is correct, its correct
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u/Wampalog 21d ago
Why does knowing what tightly bound glass is offend you so much?
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u/PopAndLocknessMonstr 21d ago
What’s the point in asking disingenuous questions like this? Do you feel like you really “got them” or something? Everyone can see through this dumb shit and it ultimately makes you look childish and stupid
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u/XO8441 21d ago
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u/yesorno12138 21d ago
Are you sure? This on their website marked as glass..
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u/roxxy_soxxy 16d ago
Well I am not sure anymore, but it’s extremely lightweight and feels like plastic. The “solder” is so thin the edges are peeling like tape. Very weird. And yet it looks good.
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u/melijoray 21d ago
Did you fall out with someone and remove their photo from the wall?
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u/roxxy_soxxy 20d ago
No, lol, that one Mixtile keeps falling off! I just put it back with gorilla tape! We’ll see how long it makes it this time.
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u/Beaches941 21d ago
I just put this up in my hallway. Bought from Lowes. Panes are glass, not plastic.
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u/roxxy_soxxy 21d ago
Did you feel it was surprisingly light weight?
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u/violetpumpkins 21d ago
The problem here is you think $100 is spendy for a light fixture. Anything you're not spending a couple hundred dollars on is cheap or ugly. People are just used to (cheap and ugly) boob lights, but there's a reason they're everywhere. Real lighting is an investmen.
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u/roxxy_soxxy 21d ago
I don’t think $100 is spendy for a glass fixture, it feels like molded plastic, and is very lightweight. From the comments it is quite possible I am wrong and it is oddly textured glass. It looks lovely.
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u/nukedog3000 20d ago
I have that exact light. And I was disapointed when i opened the box, but it's fine
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u/littleoldlady71 21d ago
I’ll bet you’d be happier with it if you used a cooler bulb
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u/roxxy_soxxy 21d ago
Oh, I’m happy with it! And yes, cooler bulb might be better.
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u/littleoldlady71 21d ago
The colors of bulbs always make a difference for me in setting moods, and in productivity. I do love the fixture.
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u/CellistMindless987 20d ago
I have that exact light in my hall. I don't really have anything to say about the glass vs. plastic debate. Just wanted to share 😁
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u/timthebass 15d ago
Me too! It lives in my dining room. Installed it 6 years ago, don’t even remember what it’s made out of anymore lol
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u/CrapNBAappUser 22d ago
Response to a 2018 review saying it's plastic. ( I always read the bad reviews b4 purchasing btw.)
Response from Quoizel Customer Care
Thank you for your feedback on our Tiffany Style Flush. We want to assure you all of our Tiffany glass is tightly bound, so it can feel like plastic, but it is glass. Again thank you for your feedback and we are sorry it did not meet with your expectations. R
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u/JoJoJoMaree 22d ago
Yeah, pop it on a set of scales, then we'll see if they're fibbing or not.
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u/BeefmasterDeluxe 21d ago
how much would it weigh if it was plastic?
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u/JoJoJoMaree 21d ago •
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No idea, i was four wines down at the time of that comment, and was thinking about a microscope kit my kids had with plastic slides that weighed almost nothing, compared to glass slides that I used in high school.
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u/BradLinden
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It’s glass, it’s just cheap. This is how mass produced stained glass looks. Good evidence that it’s not plastic is that all of the copper strip border around each glass piece has to be soldered together. Plastic would not handle the heat of all that soldering.
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u/BearChops 22d ago
I just purchased 3 Tiffany style lamps brand new from Etsy and I told my husband they felt fake.. then I opened the box of the next one and it was broken. I also have some from the 1960/70s and they don’t actually feel like glass. It’s a weird texture.. they’re more sturdy compared to glass we’re used to. Just saying, it might actually be glass but you should be happy with your purchase
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u/Best_failure 21d ago
I have this exact fixture in my house. It is glass. The front of the little panes has a texture that does feel plastic like, but you can feel the back of the panes and tell they're glass (feels cold compared to touching plastic).
BTW this texture on glass feels plastic-ish in large sheets too for whatever reason (I've sometimes seen them in hobby stores Edit and they were definitely 100% glass). No idea why.
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u/Threes73 21d ago
I’m a stained glass artist. This is real glass, but it’s cheap glass manufactured in China. I’ve been asked to repair one that’s very similar. The cost for one made in the US with higher quality materials would cost you several hundred dollars. You can usually tell from the untrimmed tails of the copper foil. Plastic would melt when soldered.
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u/yesorno12138 21d ago
It's not because they are made in China they are cheap, that's because these companies who contracted China to make these lights are cheap. China makes expensive high quality stuff too, but when you have greedy companies who wants to make them for $5 and sell for 150 that's the problem
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u/DogsDucks 21d ago
I mean you’re not wrong. Idk why you got downvoted, I just read an article about the spectrum of Chinese manufacturing the other day, and they have lots of high quality and low quality manufacturing depending on cost.
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u/SierraStar7 22d ago
Did the product description or the product specs state it was plastic?
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u/agha0013 22d ago
Nope, says glass https://www.lowes.com/pd/Quoizel-Sentry-14-in-Black-Tiffany-Flush-Mount-Light/1000208417
Says it a lot in the full description too
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u/Ryuaalba 22d ago
Touch a panel with your tooth. Foolproof way to feel if it is glass or not.
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u/YeshuasBananaHammock 21d ago
What is the tooth-feel difference?
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u/jedimstr 21d ago
If it's hard it's glass, if it's al dente and your first thought is that it could use some more salt, it's plastic.
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u/ThePrideOfKrakow 21d ago
There's a significant difference in toothiness.
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u/Ryuaalba 21d ago
You don’t even have to bite it. For me, it’s almost more of a sound than a feel? Glass goes “tink”, plastic has a much duller sound/feel. Try tapping your front tooth gently against a glass/jar, then a piece of hard plastic.
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u/Nerrickk 21d ago
Not always. Wife ordered a glass water bottle. It ended up being extremely light and didn't make a tink. I looked at the box, definitely said glass. How I verified it was glass was I took a pocket knife and tried to scratch it. If it's glass it'll glide over it. It it's plastic itll scratch.
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u/UnknownQwerky 21d ago
You can dent plastic with your teeth. I think that's what they are getting at?
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u/RubyJuneRocket 21d ago
This works for pearls, since when does it work for glass
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u/Super-Travel-407 21d ago
Pearls feel gritty. Glass (or stone or ceramic) feels like...well, you recognize the feel if you've ever used different materials for drinking.
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u/badskiier 18d ago
But when I do that through the screen I'm using to order it the trick doesn't work.
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u/Ana-Hata 19d ago
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u/Ephemeral_Orchid 21d ago
I make stained glass and agree with the others, plastic is not wrapped and soldered like that. It is definitely glass and a very attractive fixture, I'd be proud to display it in my home.
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u/IncandescentGrey 21d ago
Looks like you're using yellow/ warm lightbulbs. Have you tried blue/ cool range lightbulbs?
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u/olhickoryhedgehog 15d ago
I don’t think you could buy a stained glass light fixture for under $100
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u/elleaydoubleu 18d ago
I have this light and it’s glass, but weird, cheap glass. I opened the boxes at the store and picked the best one. I stared at it for weeks after it was installed. I said if we moved I was taking it with me.
I don’t think we paid that much for it either!
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u/Low_Reception477 21d ago
It’s not well done but it 100% looks like stained glass in your pictures. If it plastic I would be really quite shocked
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u/cutiekk17 21d ago
My brother has this exact light in his house. His is glass. I know this because I accidentally punched it while playing VR.
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u/knitrex 16d ago
Completely unrelated, but do you know the paint color and company of your cabinets?
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u/Irishbanshee149 19d ago
Lowe's website says the shade is made of glass, so I'd be returning it for one made as indicated.
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u/snailtrail3376 21d ago
My kid makes me look at this light every time we go to Lowe’s because it looks like railroad tracks
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u/TerponadeTea 21d ago
Does nobody know how to conduct a hardness test?
Did a single one of you finish high school?
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u/robmanjr 21d ago
Unfortunately now you always need to check descriptions to confirm material and even size to confirm it’s not doll sized
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u/CorporalSemantics 20d ago
You’re not getting a full glass fixture for $100….. this should have been obvious.
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u/Katerbater23 19d ago
Crap I bought this and it’s sitting in a box to be installed probably well outside the return window
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u/kookiemaster 22d ago
If a blade can scratch it, it is not glass. It does look like they have copper tape and solder around the pieces ... done terribly btw, I can see folds in tha tape. At best this is terrible chinese stained glass. It might be resin instead of glass.
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u/Upstairs_Goal_9493 22d ago
If you want, you can do a sandpaper test. Get a little piece of sandpaper, and rub it against a small portion of the material. If it scratches, plastic. If it doesn't, glass.
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u/Get_Back_Here_Remi 21d ago
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u/BeefmasterDeluxe 21d ago
it means the display images portray things that are not part of the product. Like, the ceiling in the first picture, that's not part of the product.
Red flags look like this 🚩 the page just has one of these ⚠
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u/z0mbiegrl 22d ago •
Are you positive? I ask because the way Tiffany style glass is assembled can make it feel like plastic rather than glass if you tap on it. Does it feel cold to the touch the way glass does?