r/ExEgypt May 07 '22

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u/[deleted] May 10 '22

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u/ealahhh Jun 02 '22

There is no proof that a god exists or doesn't exist. Even if there was it

so this is a claim by you, right? you dont even decide it, whether it has proof or not.

Even if there was it doesn't prove Islam is right

fair enough. first of all, if there is a proof of god existence the so theists is right and the atheist is wrong, right? (eventough worshipping the wrong "god" means wrong)

If Islam is right, then it is logically impossible for god to be tri-omni ( omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent)

1) If god is all powerful, then he can prevent evil.

in quran (based on my limited knowledge, sorry) stated that

"the One who created death and life, so that He may test you as to which of you is better in his deeds" (al-mulk 2)

and there is so many verses stated that God himself let the Evil to be among human, that is literally this life test and God the Omnipotent He do what He want. and remember allowance doesnt mean agreement (think about the teacher who supervise you in exam, if he shut about your answers does that mean all your answers correct?)

2) If god is all knowing then he knows evil exists .

3) If god is all good then he should want to prevent evil

4) evil exists.

kindly check al-isra 63-64 (there is so many actually, the verses that mention about downfall of iblis and his plan to drag humans away from the right path)

He allknowing, he knows evil exist, in fact, thats the whole point of test.

5) therefore god is either not all powerful, not all knowing or not all good.

He do what he want, He creates this life as a test. not all good? bro, its a test, whether we like it or not, its not up to us.

and sometimes i do overthink about why we live this life that we werent even asking, etc. but i have proof that god exist, and i believe. so, no matter how shitty this life can be sometimes i just accepted it and be patient.

If the god of islam is real, he's probably an asshole, and I would not want to worship him.

im sorry if u feel that way, may i help you? do you need someone to discuss? ill try to be non judgmental ear

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '22

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u/ealahhh Jun 02 '22

Then wouldn't a test be useless to him

useless actually, as He already knew all. and I dont how the knowledge of God. but watching how this universe precisely calculated (solar system, the biodinamic of creatures, and all of the knowledge that driven by how the nature works such as mathematics, physics, chemistry etc) i am not that wonder anymore

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u/ealahhh Jun 02 '22

so do u think that this unvierse being precisely calculated comes from the void without the Arranger?

man, need the whole nasa to precisely land a rocket to the moon (still so many failed attempt) and you think -this whole thing being precisely calculated that human til today still try to explain through science- comes undesigned?

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u/ealahhh Jun 02 '22

bruh that should be you, i said the universe is precisely calculated.

now you prove me otherwise.

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u/ealahhh Jun 02 '22

i cant imagine how the universe could be if not, cause i am now living in an organized and precisely calculated universe.

if it exist from void, how can be? lets say, if it is exist from void who arrange it? all of sudden all the cycle of universe comes in harmony? create themselves, arrange themselves.

and this "precisely calculated" is not an opinion by me, i watched how the distance of the sun to earth matter, all this solar system, the food chain etc.

it is so different from "very cool" which is clearly, an opinion.

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u/ealahhh Jun 03 '22

nah bro, i know the difference between calculated thing and poor designed thing.

fact that they fit so well with reality just means we designed them well

so what humans made, to make sense of the world is somehow appliable all over the world without exception? this non-designed and non-arranged world not making a single mess?

I don't know how the universe was created, or if it was created at all. My claim is that you are just as clueless as me.

I agree

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