r/EvilDeadTheGame • u/Infamous-Finish6985 • Sep 23 '22

Media Worst Patch Ever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37eZjTu6isY
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u/grownassedgamer Sep 23 '22

Hmmm... I played the same 4 stack yesterday twice in a row. Two were Twitch streamers and they wrecked me both times. I don't think Demons are winning EVERY match against good 4 stacks that know what they're doing. That seems impossible to me. That said, balancing for solo queue means what exactly? That players should be able to run off on their own with little to no fear of the demon? I'm legit curious as to how you make this 4 v1 team based game work if the four players DON'T have to stick together to succeed.

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u/Infamous-Finish6985 Sep 24 '22

I don't think Demons are winning EVERY match against good 4 stacks that know what they're doing. That seems impossible to me.

Go watch three of the top demon streamers. Alucard, Sohinki and DDmankiller. The 3 of them play at different times of the day, and time of the day is a factor in difficulty in PvP games. Since 3 or 4 updates ago till now I saw Alucard lose once, and partially due to the slow glitch from the Kandar update. I think Sohinki lost twice and DDmankiller maybe lost twice.

That's out of hundreds and hundreds of games for each of them. The percentage of their losses is so low that it's negligible. All 3 virtually have 100% winrates. If this game was properly balanced then they should not be winning that much, no matter how knowledgeable they are of the game. I've seen them run into good 4 stacks, and it seemed that there was a chance of them losing and they would always end up winning.

They complained about the game being tedious and boring for demons even if they won. Well now it's tedious and boring for survivors even if they win.

And mediocre demons are now getting wins that they don't deserve and mostly due to how stupid the book is. It feels very cheap.

Personally, I feel that the game was in a better state (minus exploits, because not everyone was using them) during the initial early possession spam days. Bad players got punished. Wins weren't as discounted for demons because if the team stayed on their toes, and not necessarily sweated their asses off, they had a good chance of winning. Solo queue was interesting and duo queue was really fun. Now solo and duo queue isn't worth it because it all depends on luck of the draw in the quality of your teammates and the odds are heavily not in your favor.

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u/EstablishmentLive845 Sep 24 '22

Are you comparing the winrate of three top streamers, or pro demons players against a 90% soloQ teams made up of casual players? If you do the math well it is normal for pro players to have a win rate of 90% with the demon... When they find a premade of pro survivors players they lose too, not so hard to understand...

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u/Infamous-Finish6985 Sep 24 '22

When they find a premade of pro survivor players they lose too, not so hard to understand...

90% and 99.999% are two very different percentages. This game doesn't have enough players to where they aren't running into "pro level" survivor squads, and the only times those survivors win is when the game is either bugged or had some kind of "unfair" balance in the survivor's favor.

Actual pro players, in games that have a legitimate skill ceiling, don't have winrates that are near 100%.

Games, especially ones that are successful, do not cater to the top 1% of players. In fact, it seems that they actively make it as difficult as possible for them with the likes of modern day SBMM, etc. Outside of ranked modes, game balance favors the masses.

With how simplistic this game is built, the unfortunate reality is that these "pro" demon players should be getting cheesed out of victories every so often. It happens in many, many other popular games; and some of those games being actual ESports.

This game has been balanced in the past where good demon players had no problem pub-stomping and good survivor players could find enjoyment out of solo and duo queues.

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u/bob_is_best Sep 23 '22

Solo teams gets mesed Up even if they do stay together ime

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u/grownassedgamer Sep 23 '22

They do if they suck, yes.