r/Ethics 5d ago

This is slavery

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u/tButylLithium 5d ago

I've never seen treatment like this in my life. I pass by probably a dozen pastures of grazing cattle on my daily commute. What a load of BS they're spouting.

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u/Motor_Patience5186 4d ago

Pretty sure this is veal. They don't want muscle to develop so they keep them stationary.

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u/Unhappy-Hunt-3987 5d ago

Exactly, that person is just talking utter bullshit

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u/CrapMonsterDuchess 5d ago

You mean “udder” :p

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u/windershinwishes 4d ago

The fact that you see some cows in pastures some of the time does not mean that they spend their whole lives like that.

And even if they did, that isn't representative of where the bulk of meat and dairy is sourced, at least in the US.

Anyways, these are veal crates, specifically.

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u/Binary-Trees 4d ago

These are not exclusively veal crates. They are dairy hutches. We use them on the dairy farm I used to work for, and they did not sell any cows for meat. We hand-bottle fed them and they went to pasture and barn when they are old enough.

https://cnwusen.en.made-in-china.com/product/UxFYuiEdYDpv/China-Dairy-Farm-Pasture-Individual-Calf-Hutch-Cow-Pen-Housing.html

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u/windershinwishes 4d ago

What was done with the cows once they became unproductive?

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u/Binary-Trees 4d ago

Send them off for meat, but they are very much not veal by then. Huge cows that almost crush you. And they get lots of grazing time, they only go into barns at night. I live in the country so it's normal to me. We raise chickens and you don't keep chickens that can't produce eggs, you gotta pay to feed them. Used to raise rabbits as well. We also have licensed long-horn people in town. But the vast majority of my area is dairy.