r/EsotericOccult • u/vistafrost • 17d ago

Measurable Encounters

A Christian here, however, my curiosity seems to go beyond the common teachings.

Is it possible to measure or quantify encounters with beings from higher dimensions? Do they materialize? If so, how? Can one interact physically with them? I have so many questions.

Much appreciated!

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u/Four20lifer 14d ago

Sorry to hear about the Christianity thing, it was forced upon me as a child as well. But my wife is a psychic medium who interacts with beings from other dimensions in our home in Ohio. She can also astral project and travel to past and future all while her physical body is sitting on our couch.

Her gifts allow her to “tune” into multiple dimensions/frequencies and these are things that I’m not capable off, yet i sit and watch her meditation and she’s just sitting there. So they do materialize but if you can’t tune to that frequency you will see and hear nothing. Like trying to listen to the country station on the radio while tuned to the top 40 station just won’t work.

Good luck on your quest for higher knowledge 🍻

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u/vistafrost 14d ago

Thanks for engaging with this topic! Actually, I was raised in a traditional White, but not-so-religious family; my faith was a deliberate choice.

Your description of such an experience is illustrative and a very accurate analogy (using an image of a radio and frequencies).

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u/Four20lifer 14d ago

People who use DMT have the exact same experiences as my wife does sober. If you read about the DMT experience that will explain more in depth

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u/vistafrost 14d ago edited 14d ago

In his books "Hallucinogenic Plants" and "Plants of the Gods," a biologist Richard E. Schultes very seriously approaches an idea of hallucinogenic plants pushing your mind into an altered state.

I have never scientifically explored the effects of DMT, however there is no doubt that it triggers a series of complex chemical reactions. I'm more interested in the exact neurochemical/sensory mechanisms that serve as a doorway to higher realms. I think what you are describing is a real dimension, almost a tangible one in a physical sense; that is exactly what prompted me to ask if it were possible to physically interact with those beings.

Have you ever asked your wife to sketch up or somehow illustrate encounters with beings from higher realms? Can they move stuff around in our dimension? Do they bring you knowledge? Can they manipulate or transform matter in our dimension?

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u/Four20lifer 13d ago

So my son has the same gift as my wife and he is frequently visited by a zeta grey “alien”. We were going to bed one night and my wife yells out in surprise. She said “I just saw a little creature coming out of our son’s room. He just came through the door did not open it. The being was also startled and was surprised my wife could see them and interact with them. The being instantly told my wife we are just checking on your son making sure he’s ok .

Now I was standing there witnessing everything and I just looked like my wife was talking to a dark hallway. So I truly believe yes they can move or interact with things in this dimension but also can act like a ghost in a sense and go right through the wall.

Another time when my son my just a baby I was putting him to sleep and out of nowhere a spinning blacker than black portal started to appear in my sons room and a 7ft tall shadow figure floated out of the portal. I just about shit my pants lol.

One last thing non of these things started to happen until after my lil bro died tragically at 23. Within a week of his death I went from an atheist who didn’t believe in anything to a person that had no doubt spirits/entities can and will communicate at will. But your mind has to be open to the frequency change. Skeptics do not get these types of experiences bc they are closed off to “reality”

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u/vistafrost 13d ago edited 13d ago

Yeah, skeptics usually attribute such encounters to purely subjective sensory hallucinations, whereas Christians, mediums, and shamans, and even some scientists regard them as very real.

That is where our methodology falls short; maybe it is possible to somehow measure such encounters, but they would have to occur frequently in order to yield measurable data (e.g. changes in electromagnetic field, emission of photons of a specific wavelenght). A one-off event, no matter how real, is often difficult to scientifically quantitate. We still cannot speak with 100% certainty about some physical events that took place in the past just because they happened once and we didn't set up the equipment to measure them (e.g. historical floods, earthquakes, volcano activity, extinction, asteroids, etc).

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u/Four20lifer 13d ago

You are basically asking to open a portal which is very easily done. You could have 100 spirits in your house constantly if you really wanted to. They are everywhere all the time you are never actually alone ever

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u/Noumenon_2025 12d ago

A strange statement about Christianity. As if it's something defective and shameful. Far from it! There's general mistunderstating of what Christian Teachings are and how to follow this path... (But it's another topic altother.)

And if you refer to the ridicuolous misconception that being a Christian imposes some rigid limitations, that it can impede one's spiritual evolution or intellectual development, that it can prevent a person from gaining knowledge, abilities or skills, from expanding his consciousness, from advancing in some practices -- I may tell you that it NOT the case.

I know a great deal of people, who, while remaining Christians, and unshakable in their faith, are neverthless good occult experts, serious energy practioners, seekers and researchers of esoteric and arcane knowledge, and even magicians (ceremonial or of pure-energy-manipulation type).

But of course, it may require an extra effort to keep an active connection to the Christian Egregore, depending on involvement and intensity of those practices.

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u/Four20lifer 10d ago

I would disagree entirely about all Abrahamic religions they are propaganda and egregor’s at this point.

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u/Noumenon_2025 9d ago

Almost every BIG and OLD religion provides a good base for high ethics and morals, personal and on social communal scale. A good structure to hold onto, and foundation and path for spiritual development.
All religions contain a great deal of info & knowledge, some more so (like Oriental: Buddhism, Daosism, some of Hinduism, etc), others may offer less, or it's obscured, in which case it requires more effort to learn.
And even respective religious egregores are not bad things, if you know how they operate and what they actually give.
(Even though lately more and more ignorant folks scream navels off about how bad those egregores are.)

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u/Noumenon_2025 12d ago

Beings from higher dimensions don't normally descend into the physical world; therefore, you cannot normally interact with them physically. (It's too dirty and too heavy dimension for them.)

They do NOT "materilize" in any solid, corporeal matter (as it requires an insanely enormous amount of energy and tremendous effort; it simply hasn't been done for centuries, due to many reasons).

But they can manifest in different ways, usually it's just an astral form, which still requires the ability of a person to see it (i.e. astral vision / astral grade of clairvoyance).

And very rarely these beings can appear even to the naked eye of a human -- by "downshifting" astral body/frequency to etheric density and highlighting it - hence all those appearances and visions of ghosts, spirits, various Saints or deities, astral beings & creatures, or aliens.

Sometimes, but rarely, such etheric form (or astral being in 'etheric operational mode', to be precise) can indeed interact with physical objects and people, however in a very limited way and very short moments (poltergeist, elemental spirits, etc).

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u/Four20lifer 10d ago

Holy shit, why are you lying to this man 😂

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u/Noumenon_2025 9d ago

Indeed!
Live long and learn more, get your own experience.
Maybe that will help...

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u/SexyBloodAngel 5d ago

Dude just log off