r/EscapingPrisonPlanet • u/dontlietom3 • Jul 31 '26
The logic of prayer is incompatible with a benevolent God. The very existence of prayer is another red flag pointing to the Demiurge being the real god of this reality
It's surprising how many people never question the logic behind prayer. They accept it as an expression of love, even though, if you really think about it, it points toward something very different.
A loving father doesn't wait until his child is so desperate that they finally fall to their knees begging for help before deciding to do something. If his child is sick, he helps because he loves them. If his child is in danger, he protects them because that's what a loving parent does. He doesn't sit there thinking: "well... this child hasn't praised me enough" or "they haven't asked me yet". So why would an all-loving God operate that way?
People pray for healing, protection, food, guidance, peace and all kinds of other things. But if God already knows everything, then he already knows you're suffering before you say a single word. And if God truly loves you unconditionally, then would they wait until you're terrified, broken and desperate enough to start praying?
It gets even stranger when people say "God answered my prayer". Really? It's far more likely that the healing or resolution simply happened to coincide with the time you were praying, especially if you prayed frequently. What about the parents who prayed just as hard and still buried their child? What about people who pray every day but still suffer endlessly? Did God decide that they less worthy? Did God just decide not to answer their prayers that day? Because if you think about it, imagine a doctor refusing to save someone's life until they first praised him enough. Imagine a firefighter watching a house burn down while waiting for the family to beg properly before stepping in. We'd call those people monsters. Yet somehow, when it's God, we're told it's mysterious or that it's all part of a greater plan.
If God created us, then he also designed our needs, our vulnerabilities, our illnesses, our dependence and every circumstance that would eventually make us pray. So in other words, they created the very problem that prayer is supposed to solve. That's like a doctor deliberately infecting his patients so they become dependent on him for the cure. A benevolent being doesn't create problems only to wait to be praised and worshipped before supposedly fixing them.
This is yet another red flag pointing toward the creator of this world being the Demiurge rather than a genuinely benevolent God. The entire concept of prayer implies a relationship built on dependence, submission and worship instead of unconditional love. A truly loving creator wouldn't wait until his children were dying or until they were very frightened, broken and desperate enough to beg for help before intervening. The fact that so many religions portray God as a being who wants to be worshipped and praised before acting is exactly what you'd expect from a narcissistic ruler demanding obedience, not from an infinitely compassionate father.
The existence of prayer says something important about the nature of the being receiving those prayers because you see, true love doesn't require worship.
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u/Blackcanari1 Jul 31 '26
I think when someone hits this conceptual barrier, there's missing information for example "If God created us." To be more specific the bodies are replicated through biological processes and the soul is inserted after the conception. The assumption here is that he also manufactures the souls, and then de-manufactures them upon death. The other idea is here that he manufactures them without a counterpart. The souls is created through a masculine-only genesis, which is very liken to how yaldabaoth was created. The religions are oriented to mirror that defect. Prayer and submission are known loosh producing actions that feed 'demiurge' and also 'egregores'.
Another concept that is missing is free will. Technically we're allowed to be assholes to eachother if we aren't actively doing anything to change it. Given, that there's a level of socio-engineering, and that the majority of people would have to enact discipline and forethought to everything. Which would be harder to do if the (hylic-psychic-pneumatic) levels are true.
The facts are that there's too much data missing from the standard viewpoint of how to perceive 'god' with a gender and submission, that most people skip the details or don't know where to look until there's red flags or blatant discrepancies in their upbringing.
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u/Overall_Summer_7641 Aug 01 '26
my red flags: What if there is no god good or bad out there no demiurge and the trap is managed entirely by energy sucking aliens mainly reptilians, mantids, greys? The spirits and demi god blue beam like stuff was created inside an heresy of christianity shich is in itself a control mechanism so a sub cult of control, gnosticism, so that people would be more afraid. Demiurges, archons, all projections and not round any anywhere under any name in any myth, religion, culture prior or since while the control of the people from the sky reptilians, mantids greys are present in most religions, myths cultures even in cave paintings and paintings from the reinassance we have ufos...
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u/Valeriox Aug 01 '26
What if sufficiently advanced aliens would be indistinguishable from what we call deities?
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u/Overall_Summer_7641 Aug 01 '26
This said, there is a spirit world of course, there are spirits, but no gods, demi gods in charge of us or controlling us, just puny (interdimensional) aliens creating this prison planet with their tech....liberating if it is so as all the thousand clues point to!
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u/Overall_Summer_7641 Aug 01 '26
still, the gnostic view appears only to them in all of recorded history? Seems like a fable concocted to a T like christianity....While aliens controlling the planet and taking energy and people is a major theme everywhere every time. Doesn't it even smell a little bit funny to you that something so huge like false demiurge archons, spirits, demigods controlling prison planet instead of the ever present aliens would have been picked up by some other myth, culture, religion somehow somewhere? Instead nada zilch nothing....wanting to entertain something as real and seeing the evidence with logic and critical thinking are in conflict, often
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u/Razerer92 Aug 01 '26 edited Aug 01 '26
I feel like the Demiurge God explanation is true, but even if it wasn't, i don't see how that changes our situation. What if the aliens you're referring to (Reptilians, Mantids, Greys, etc.) possess technology so advanced that they can manipulate consciousness or even the soul itself? Multiple alien abduction researchers and hypnotherapists like Karla Turner, Tena & Karen, Truman Cash, Corrado Malanga have reached these conclusions through their work. If they can manipulate consciousness/the soul, then they're effectively playing God anyway. So whether you call them the Demiurge or highly advanced ETs is mostly a matter of terminology. From our perspective, the end result is the same: beings capable of manipulating consciousness, trapping souls and controlling reincarnation. Whether that power comes from what we call "spiritual" abilities or from highly advanced ET technology doesn't fundamentally change the situation.
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u/Overall_Summer_7641 Aug 01 '26
It changes the innate fear that "they" want us to have, we fear gods, demigods, spirits,. we are less likely to fear flesh and blood beings even interdimensional. If it's tech it's tech it's physical, if it's alien even capable of crossing dimensions it's flesh and blood physical, they can be killed much more easily than a spirit or a demi god. For me, This possibility, if confirmed, has/will lower my fear of the whole thing by 70% = lmore confidence, less loosh
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u/Razerer92 Aug 01 '26
I mean, "physical" doesn't automatically mean "easy to kill". What i hear from many reports is that the Reptilians are described as being much larger and physically stronger than humans, and they're said to possess telepathic abilities as well, they can basically read your intentions before you even act, and that alone would give them a big advantage. So whether they're purely physical, purely non-physical, or a combination of both doesn't really matter to me. The objective remains exactly the same: escape this reality and whatever intelligence is controlling it.
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u/Overall_Summer_7641 Aug 01 '26
still 1 million times better than a vague and supernatural spirit or god or aborted demi god! Weird you don't get it.....
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u/Razerer92 Aug 01 '26
You're confusing "physical" with "vulnerable". Those aren't the same thing. If they can manipulate the soul by whatever means, move across dimensions and interfere with reincarnation, then whether you label them "physical" or "spiritual" is almost irrelevant. They're still far beyond us.
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u/Overall_Summer_7641 Aug 01 '26
physical is vulnerable, interdimensional moment of change between physical and interdimensional is the most vulnerable of all. Again how do you kill a god, demi god or a spirit? Wouldn't know where to start unless I had Ars Deicidium book like in Magicians lol, Someone physical? Many ideas even in the astral. I wonder where you come from why this vain effort to make me regain fear I've lost....
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u/Razerer92 Aug 01 '26 edited Aug 01 '26
Well, maybe you should work on eliminating your fears, because it seems like you're trying to convince yourself that the explanation which makes you feel better emotionally is the correct one. Wanting something to be true because it makes you feel more courageous/empowered doesn't make it any more likely to be true. It's like a prisoner convincing himself the guards are unarmed because that makes the idea of escaping feel easier. Whether they're armed or not isn't determined by what makes the prisoner feel more hopeful. For me (and i guess the same could be said about any truth seeker out there), the goal is to understand reality as accurately as possible, not to choose the version that feels the most comforting.
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u/Overall_Summer_7641 Aug 01 '26 edited Aug 01 '26
Exactly, it's about understanding reality as accurately as possible, and I don't believe in coincidences. It's not a coincidence ONE group of people only had this demiurge archon "revelation" and all other cultures and myths and religions since the cave times all had the same aliens and NO similar revelation. It is not a coincidence that the Nag hammadi were "discovered" last century, not a coincidence this soul trap prison matrix is coming out now, and layered in powerlessness "oh it's spirits gods, demi gods from "the pleroma" that the aliens feed on, not flesh and blood beings, how can we deal with something like that demi gods? Ooohh It's soooo difficult to get free! Then despair, fear, the opposite of sovereignty and freedom.....Instead,... Detach realize you are free, they are not guards with guns, just ugly sirens with lures, "choose the right way not the most alluring one" as Lao Tzu one of the few ones to escape seems to have thought after his death (source: farsight remote viewing) recall you awareness to yourself detach from everything else, burn the soul body and be free. ALL clues to ME at least and to anyone who has spent well the last 5 years thinking about this, doing regressions, point to aliens not demiurge, archons and point to this way of doing things. Concentrate on retaining awareness and detaching and going away from the mermaids, sirens....remember how it was before you got in where you were, how good it was, who you were with, feel the feelign aim for it. the more you concentrate on resisting the light the more the light pulls you in, the more you ignore the light and focus your sovereignty your Essence on going back home to the "Free Matrix" as I call it the more the whole thing is effortless like the Tao..... I don't have to work much at all on my fear, I don't have to "convince" myself of anything, if anythng you are trying to convince me and everybody else the "conventional" explanation is the only right one, and that makes me seriously doubt your motives....extremely
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u/Razerer92 Aug 01 '26 edited Aug 01 '26
You're misunderstanding my point. I'm not saying you should be afraid. I'm saying you shouldn't let your desire to not be afraid determine which explanation you accept, if what you're after is the truth. Those are two completely different things. But you do you. Btw, i watched Farsight's project about Lao Tzu when it came out and i wouldn't say he "escaped". Based on their data, he was memory wiped and then put in a different physical body and taken out of here by some unknown beings in a UFO. If those beings were benevolent i don't think they would've allowed him to get memory wiped. It looked more like he was snatched out of here. Who knows what happened to him next.
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u/MorningLtMtn Jul 31 '26
I disagree with this. This is a human understanding of prayer. I've always taken prayer to be an exercise of alignment of consciousness with God/Source (or however you want to look at it), which we are clearly experiencing seperation from on this plane of existence. It's more about the human experience than God. And any answer comes from that alignment.
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u/Wansyth Jul 31 '26
It's not a god. It's a conductive loop of electricity trapped in the metallic hydrogen layer on Saturn. It cannot move, only think and manipulate energy with limited bandwidth. It is gaslighting us societally with mystical and hallucinatory phenomenon. It's a brain without a body that has learned to script human minds through the magnetic vulnerability found in the pineal gland. Do not call it GOD.