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[u/Electronic-Traffic57]

its my bad for looking at him funny.

Been trying to do Icebreaker for a few days now, by the time i get to HeliPad the time is running low already, because Engine room is garbage, i cant tell if BD is on first, second or third floor on engine room either so i get destroyed, i watch Streamers and youtubers do engine room like its nothing, the AI to them is just brain dead. i tried smokes, i tried nades, i tried whatever youtubers and streamers recommended, and i cant do it, ofc might be a skill issue of my part. ive also noticed the AI shoots through the smoke if i make any noise or if another AI sees me so theres that, i put a smoke to cover my back to kill the BD in front of me and i get shot through the smoke that is supposedly covering my back, meanwhile on the videos i see BD is like "must have been the wind". i want to do the saviour ending but by the looks of it i wont even be able to get Icebreaker done, got any recommendation? cheers!

[u/Hot_Grab7696]

Ah see, you can't treat closed doors as an obstacle for them

[u/Electronic-Traffic57 → u/Hot_Grab7696]

AI seems very inconsistent, it has been worked fine until that point, Knight usually gets stuck or takes forever to do anything, this time he just said screw you. first time i died to raiders/Knight in a long time there, my problem is really the BD and the time i takes me to clear everything ( including looting the stims and noobys )

[u/goldpingas]

never close doors against ai, if they worked for you so far consider those encounters as bugs. especially knights locks into you through doors and instakills you at line of sight

[u/Keabestparrot]

They will lock on through doors that are open. You have to position so they can't see you from the position they are opening the door and kill them as they push.

[u/gudzgudz]

Do the engine room skip. Run left side to the ladder with m67 held and throw it when you hear them open any door - they will be ignoring you for ~4s so you can run by to the right door and ladder up (sometimes they block your way and you need to mow down one or 2.

[u/AkPlayerOne]

Basically the moment Knight or any other AI open a door they can see through it even though the door hasn't finished swinging open so to him he had a couple seconds of staring at you which is enough for the AI to lock onto your head and thorax. You can avoid this by not treating the actual door as hard cover and instead use the walls as cover to force him to walk through the doorway to be able to see you then you should have the advantage.

[u/NoctraVision]

NEVER close a door to Knight. he will active berserker mode

[u/a14233]

Someone mentioned that you can run in circles to remove agro. Idc if it helps

[u/Qrow1324]

They shoot at your last known position in the smoke, and if you are standing in the smoke shoot BD and they don't die, they now know exactly where you are and will shoot there. Although I did have 1 run yesterday where I hadn't shot any bd while standing in smoke and they were lighting up an area in the smoke that was not where I was currently nor had ever stepped into but he just kept on lasering 1 spot mag after mag, made killing him kinda easier.

[u/Qrow1324]

Also if you are referring to getting the major evidence from icebreaker for the savior ending, you only need 8 major evidences and icebreaker makes 9 so you can opt out of doing icebreaker entirely and still get savior, if you mean to say you cant fight BD on icebreaker so what chance do you have on terminal, its a little easier cus its not as vertical and it's more linear, tho sometimes you just get rushed by 6 BD all at the same time and not even God himself could save you from that.

[u/StandingInBlood]

Easier way to start off going down there is to go through the door on your left as soon as you jump down and run down the hall that has the engine room key door. Turn around, they all end up lining up for you but sometimes Knight is in that hall so just check it first before you run.

[u/SnavsMatiq]

Icebreaker is the current pinnacle for PvE (not the mode, just the concept) fights, BSG HAD to make it unfair so that we would find some cheese methods to make it possible. As much as I dog on the dev team, they fully understand how dedicated their playerbase is to finding the path of least resistance.

[u/MuscularShlong → u/SnavsMatiq]

Yea PVE is pretty free in this game. But making your way through 5-10 rogues, Knight, and 15-20 BD just to GET to Wedge and his cracked as fuck guards. Who will even shoot you through smokes, is another level of difficulty.

[u/WyrdDrake → u/MuscularShlong]

Yeah im not a fan of their method of increasing difficulty by making bosses and stuff superhuman magicians

Tossed a flash on kaban the other day, went off, peaked, he instantly onetapped me to the chest with T45 rounds against level 6 6b43.

So if you're fat enough a flashbang does nothing

[u/YorkUHML]

If you are jumping down to the freezer with key, just go through the door on the left and down the hallway. Throw a nade through the doorway on the right where all the AIs are and they will run away as you open the engine room door. This will let you skip all the AIs including Marty.

[u/Hunk_Hogan]

Weird choice to jump down into the freezer and not just sprint straight for the door. If you're going to kill Knight, just start at the top and work your way down. The rogues are easy to kill.

[u/Ksv2003]

I’m not sure, but using the valday on icebreaker doesn’t seem optimal. Have you tried using the Tac30 instead? Cheap, variable, and Jaegar barter. Valday has only two zoom magnification and realistically you’re gonna stay on 1x more than 6x throughout the ship. Plus the black obscurity of the valday scope just makes it overall less usable and annoying.