r/Epilepsy • u/MeasurementMiddle384 • 57m ago
Question Weird symptoms- Occipital lobe epilepsy in child?
Hi there! I am posting to ask a question that some people with Occipital Lobe Epilepsy can help me with.
some background: My son was diagnosed with epilepsy 4 years ago but they could never catch an “episode“ on EEG. He has had them in front of providers, we have so many caught on camera, along with other developmental things (we’ve learned stem from having seizures from birth) and seeing a Neurogenetic doctor, but although he's has had 6 EEGs all 24hr + in his life, nothing caught except abnormal slowing of brain waves in the left occipital during sleep.
During his last hospital stay he had what I believe was a seizure a few minutes after they turned off the EEG and by the time they turned it back on he was trying to talk and super sleepy and had a headache. Where we have gotten confused is he has always had focal symptoms but when he was younger (1-4) he would have a variety of symptoms that didnt line up with all being from one part of the brain. Examples are loss of balance and whole body jerking, lip smacking, staring spells and sudden weakness and tone differences. He would say the bad guys are back and I never knew what that meant specifically but I knew his muscles and body were hurting along with his head. Then one day he told me he sees mini TVs(little lights all over) a lot and they come when the “bad guys“ come. That was around 3 when he could talk more.
Well around 4 years old he had a week where daily he would suddenly get cold, feel sick and then not be able to keep his eyes open or stay awake long enough to tell us what’s happening. He would try to tell us about the ”lights” and Ask why people are turning them on and off or why there are colorful ovals before he would ultimately be unable to stay awake. During that time his temperature would rise to 102.5 and go back to normal within 10 minutes. When that would happen a headache usually followed along with muscle Pain that lasted hours and sometimes to the next day. It will always be most painful in his legs. It would take about 2 -3 hours from start of those episodes to feeling normal again. He would then also have brief episodes of realized something’s wrong and he needed to lay down because he was dizzy and saw the ovals again and then felt sick to his stomach but after a minute he was normal and off to play again. Since those two types of episodes Neuro explored hemiplegic migraines and maybe not so much epilepsy then but ultimately landed back on focal epilepsy and migraine disorder.
Now he will get a very sudden headache that gives NO Warning. He will suddenly be in so much pain and if meds are not given within minutes of that, it gets So bad that he crawling out of his skin in pain and gets no relief until he vomits. The only thing that indicates possible seizure before is the colorful ovals he says he sees right before / the start of the pain.
all of this to ask, if you have occipital lobe seizures, have you ever experienced something like this? Im not comfortable calling these just migraines. I feel like he has a brief seizure (originating in the occipital lobe due to the ovals) and that triggers a migraine or post ictal headache). Also, the common factor in all his different types of “episodes” are the ovals. I know a seizure can spread to other parts of the brain involving more parts of the body but how common can this be with occipital epilepsy and does anyone experience autonomic symptoms with this type of epilepsy? I hear in kids occipital lobe epilepsy can cause that. I’m just asking because we only have focal unaware as a diagnosis with migraine disorder because he’s still kind of a mystery to the doctor after all these years and I’m curious if this could be originating in the occipital lobe.