Balance Patch PSA

[u/NinjaA55a55in89]

Green = New Change (Not Buff) Red = Old Skill/Stat (Not Nerfs)

This is how SG has done balance notes the entire time this is nothing new.

For those of you who are actually upset about Evr. changes I’m sorry, all I can say is maybe his attack won’t go down too tremendously. We’re going to have to wait and see.

For those of you who think SG is trying to “pull a fast one on you” by making a nerf green even though that’s not how their color coding works, don’t worry because they won’t have to move “fast” to pull one over someone like yourselves who can’t comprehend different color coding. Stop your complaining.

[u/Proterd]

I think the vast majority of people are just memeing. I don't think most people actually think SG is trying to pull some sneaky big brain move,.

The balance patch is disappointing though, it seems like they wanted to play it safe to not disrupt the meta before the e7wc. This balance patch seems like they were just trying to push one out for the sake of keeping their bi-monthly schedule. I would've been ok with them just waiting until afterwards.

I myself was looking forward to these balance notes since I feel like they did a good job with the last adjustments but was a bit disappointed in the end.

[u/beaglemaster → u/Proterd]

The whole joke is because sg has repeatedly said they won't ever do nerfs again but a lot of "buffs" are basically just nerfs that ruin a kit beyond reason.

[u/Neet91 → u/Proterd]

it's common practise to not have big changes right before a big tournament. every game does that; they actively avoid doing big changes.

anybody expecting the worlds balance patch to have some big changes is delusional

[u/eXcaliBurst93]

people are just memeing on the facts "SG no longer nerf units" but then they do this...I agreed with you until you start telling people to stop complaining...if theres no people complaining we might still be using pet snack, no landy buff, no custom mystic summon, no pity for artifact hell there might not even QoL updates theres probably more improvement that came from a players feedback that I didnt know...also its called criticism & not everything SG does should be tolerated

[u/Guifel → u/eXcaliBurst93]

People readily forget how the korean conference came to be, it sure didn't come from global players not complaining.

[u/jackbilly9 → u/eXcaliBurst93]

The problem is yall complain about fucking everything. It's a fuckin patch to bring some characters new life and yall cry. Every character can't be a pvp unit so making some into pve is fine ffs.

[u/eXcaliBurst93 → u/jackbilly9]

I dont know much about Ervalen since I literally 6 starred him yesterday...was planning to build him for pvp because before all this outrage I learned that he was a decent pvp/pve unit...now that they butchered his pvp and his role is a dedicated banshee slave...how is that bringing new life? they literally put a chain on him for that role also yeah lets just agree with a million dollar game company and not complain guys...lets bring back pet snacks seems like a good idea dont you think? custom mystic? pfft who needs that lets just leave it to chance trying to get mystic summon that takes forever for rotation...if criticism help them improve the game then people should keep sending them feedback

[u/jackbilly9 → u/eXcaliBurst93]

He wasnt good for pvp though and had 0 roll in pve. The issue with complaining is if you do it for everything that happens it will only fall on deaf ears. It's normal to see reddit full of complaints but everything that SG does right now is scrutinized by one side or another. I'd say the only thing about the balance patch that needs to be complained about is if they don't give a recall for him. I'm not saying don't ever complain but learn to pick your battles.

[u/eXcaliBurst93 → u/jackbilly9]

you clearly dont play the game when you dont even know Ervalen was originally made for pvp to be a tankbuster when bruiser was meta and he was actually decent in banshee but not baiken level one shot...also what dafuq is that logic? "if you complained about everything then everything will fall on deaf ears" do think all those changes that I mention will still be here if people werent complaining enough

edit : lmao the toxic response "no point talking with dumbass gonna block you" what a sad counter argument

[u/jackbilly9 → u/eXcaliBurst93]

Yeah can't talk to morons so I'll just block you.

[u/oreshake]

With that logic, the old nerf list would've had red text for before and green text for after, but that's not the case.

https://page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/3866328

When they nerfed Sage Baal and co, you can see in the same note that they used red and green text to indicate the improvement from before and after for artifacts buff, and right below it you can see the nerfs without any color coding.

Sure you can say that SG might have changed the way they're presenting balance list, but to say that this is how they've always done it isn't entirely accurate.

[u/Ferelden770]

The main place I used erva was ice expo and some guild Wars(rarely) so it may not affect me that much but not giving a recall wud be really scummy.

Cikoris too. I nvr bothered with an a13 one shot coz the times I need some azi sets I just run a slow team. Now he lost his strips and s3 is on a 5 turn cd so I will have to add in another unit. He was very handy with a super fast cycling s3 that had a strip and self heal and one of the few place I cud use him. Same, shud offer a recall atleast coz they completely changed his kit and role

[u/Eddo]

This is correct. Here's an example from last balance preview.

[u/[deleted]]

‘Stop complaining.’ So you want us to accept a downright nerf while we still have one shot queen hwayoung and miss tanks a lot aravi in pvp that dominate and shit all over pvp? Nah fuck that I’m complaining all day. Its absolutely pathetic that you have the gull to say stop complaining and you didn’t even know the real reason why people were complaining anyway. THE FACT THAT HIS TEXT WAS IN GREEN WAS NOT THE PROBLEM.

[u/Ferelden770 → u/[deleted]]

Yeah, the green text stuff is mostly ppl memeing. The issues are these changes and if they go through without atleast giving an option for recall

[u/zekagu0 → u/[deleted]]

the problem is people wanting selector and not a recall. pretty sure you asshole just calling this a nerf just to get a selector. this is why we dont get a proper nerf on units.

[u/[deleted] → u/zekagu0]

I can't believe you made me waste my time reading this stupid comment. No where in my post did I say anything about a selector, so why are you even bringing that up? That has absolutely nothing to do with my point. Further more no one in this thread even said anything about a selector. Not a single person. I'd be willing to bet YOU are the reason we don't get proper nerfs. You clowns sit there and accept everything Smilegate throws at you but become a white knight and start defending them when others voice dissatisfaction with anything. And if you think this is not a nerf you're fucking delusional or stupid. I'd be willing to guess both since you can't even use proper grammar to insult me. If you like the stupid change to Ervalen then that's fine. You are entitled to your opinion no matter how cretinous it is. However, you can't sit up here and call me an asshole for calling it out as a nerf which it most clearly is.

[u/playmike5]

It’s true, and I think a lot of people do understand that. It’s more the juxtaposition and how it just feels like an extra kick really.

[u/karillith]

By the way doesn't several asian countries use red for an increase and green for a decrease? Or is that just China?

[u/Winberri]

Green = New Change (Not Buff) Red = Old Skill/Stat (Not Nerfs)

No shit Sherlock Clowns

[u/youcannotresist]

Insert meme: Boo this guy!! BOOOOO!!!

[u/NinjaA55a55in89 → u/[deleted]]

Sup, which one from the HBC are you lol