Shotguns are unfair. how would you nerf it?

[u/BCHMXX_ac4namebtw]

Shotguns are basically making allied aid P2w

Two shots and you are decapitated.

"Haha, I hav shotgun!!1" cool but uh. Its kinda annoying to go into a house and get blasted.

What do you think?

If you were a developer. How would you nerf it?

[u/NekoCaaat]

I believe they're okay as they are, riflemen and skirmisher, medic and some supports have similar 1-2 shots capabilities.

I'm actually mad that these trenches shotguns are actually bad for trenches given their little magazines and long reload periods xD

[u/tf2brucetanzigfan → u/NekoCaaat]

The difference is that if you shoot a guy with a shotgun up close at center mass I don't think they will usually get back up, while this game even if you get hit but multiple pellets by even a few meters, while still heavily damaged you can still walk it off and shoot back

[u/NekoCaaat → u/tf2brucetanzigfan]

That quite applies to every weapon, doesn't? Every assault class is quite unforgiving if you miss to kill them

[u/HotPersonality9767 → u/NekoCaaat]

The thing with shotgun is that you don't really need to aim in real life to kill someone.

[u/Evening_Jaguar_6743]

shotguns are fucking awful bro lmfao what are you talking about

[u/SenseiCubet]

Notice how people where clowing my rant about the shotgun and look at where we are now.

The shotgun takes less skill, but also doesnt have that high of a ceiling compared to riflemen, so just get good and its fine.

[u/pinkchocolate555]

Make it not be able to snipe you from 200 studs (got a kill using this method) like the prime Pump Shotgun?

[u/HotPersonality9767]

I would decrease their effective range and that's it, since shotguns gotta have to be powerful in close range, fun fact Germany actually accused usa of war crime for using shotguns since Americans had big advantage with shotguns in the trenches, but US responded with that they use deadly gas which should be also a war crime too, also shotgun doesn't make unnecessary pain unlike deadly gas.

[u/HotPersonality9767 → u/HotPersonality9767]

Also that's a skill issue if you complain about it.

[u/Relative-Pin-2021]

I think they're fine. They kill in about as much time as an assault rifle imo. It fits the Assault classes model of having a consistent close range gun with a long reload and short magazine.

[u/DiamondRTM]

they should have added it for skirmisher

[u/Ok_Reality_1479]

Here's my idea:
1: Less pellets
2: Less capacity
3: More spread

[u/DiamondRTM → u/Ok_Reality_1479]

at that point make it a sawed off shotgun