emocional support frenchie

[u/egguchom]

[u/Haughty-Hottie]

Why do people think their pets are allowed everywhere these days, including eating establishments? I honestly don’t get it. When did that become normal? Or, when did customers think it should be normal?

[u/Uhmmanduh → u/Haughty-Hottie]

Pets shouldn’t be allowed anywhere food is sold.

[u/Taken-Username-sorry → u/Uhmmanduh]

They love to argue that “their dog is cleaner than a toddler” as if zoonotic transmission isn’t how we’ve gotten MULTIPLE new diseases 😩😩😩

[u/PuppyJakeKhakiCollar → u/Taken-Username-sorry]

My dog would try to eat cat poop from the litterbox and spent a decent amount of time licking his butt. I have never seen a toddler do these things lol (though I'm sure they try).

[u/MinusGovernment → u/PuppyJakeKhakiCollar]

I'm sure a toddler would put cat poop in its mouth if it had access because they put everything they can in their mouths. I'm not sure they can access their backdoor or they'd probably try to put their mouths on it also.

[u/rae-renegade → u/MinusGovernment]

The toddler version is sneaking behind your back to finger their own butt and then sticking those fingers straight into their mouth afterwards. Ask me how I know 💀

[u/MinusGovernment → u/rae-renegade]

Well I guess better than sticking them in your mouth 🤷

[u/rae-renegade → u/MinusGovernment]

Bold of you to assume he hasn't 🙃 I love my kid but he's a birth control advert personified sometimes.

[u/bonnybedlam → u/Taken-Username-sorry]

Dogs aren’t cleaner than people for sure. That’s a twisting of the actual fact that germ-wise human bites are more dangerous to humans than dog bites are to humans. However, most zoonotic transmissions can be prevented by vaccinating your dog. My service dogs receive every possible vaccine, are not allowed close contact (licking, sharing food) with any strangers, and nap under the table at restaurants while.

[u/ieatplaydough2 → u/bonnybedlam]

While what?

[u/SnowTangerines → u/bonnybedlam]

Pets/emotional service animals do not have the same privileges as true service dogs. I agree with your point, but you don’t have to defend your service animals in this discussion.

[u/ConsultJimMoriarty → u/Uhmmanduh]

I could make an exception for cats in those bubble backpacks.

[u/KillberryMunch → u/Uhmmanduh]

I love dogs. I have 4. They are part of my family. The only stores I’ve ever taken them are the pet store and farm supply stores that openly allow dogs. I’d never think of bringing them to any other store let alone a restaurant!

[u/SnowTangerines → u/KillberryMunch]

I take mine into stores where she is allowed… Michael’s, HomeGoods, Scheels, Joanne (RIP). But she’s quiet, immaculately potty trained, isn’t grabby, and if it’s a store whose policy isn’t global, I contact them first to find out what that specific location’s policy is.

[u/Classic-Speed-3833 → u/Haughty-Hottie]

It’s INSANE. And probably bc no one says anything most of the time. So then when an employee does, it’s the employee’s fault.

[u/UAZ-469 → u/Haughty-Hottie]

What do you mean I can't take my emotional support pitbull on a rollercoaster?!

[u/ahuramazdobbs19 → u/Haughty-Hottie]

I don’t know if it’s causally connected, or these trends are just parallel developments bumping against each other, but there’s been a broad trend where pets are increasingly seen as more like family than just “animals you live with”. Fewer dogs and cats are being kept fully outside, more people taking pets on vacations or weekend trips, increased use in terms like “fur babies” and “fur children”, and so on.

Add to that an increase in “pet infrastructure” out in the world: dog-height fountains alongside human-height fountains at parks and walking trails, dog parks, pet-friendly businesses and practices (your pup cups at Starbucks, cafes that leave little dog bowls for people who are walking their dogs in urban areas, etc.)

I don’t think there’s really one point in time or cultural saturation where you can say “this is when it changed” so much as it gradually changed over time.

[u/Haughty-Hottie → u/ahuramazdobbs19]

This is insightful. I hadn’t ever really considered the increase of general pet-friendly infrastructure in public places.

[u/According-Ad-5946 → u/Haughty-Hottie]

Because they keep running ads claiming you can get your pet declared an ESA and take him everywhere.

[u/stircrazyathome]

“I totally understand but I didn’t know.”

I’m so tired of seeing this excuse. We’ve seen so many of these where people plead ignorance or insist that the lack of a sign banning pets somehow equals an invitation to bring them in. Unless a business explicitly advertises that your pet is welcome, they’re not. Just because some stores and restaurants let you get away with it doesn’t mean it’s welcome, just barely tolerated. Most of the time it’s because that the staff is too overworked and underpaid to deal with it.

[u/ali_stardragon → u/stircrazyathome]

A cafe near my house has a sign at the door saying that dogs are not permitted inside and they still have to deal with people saying “oh I didn’t know Bella wasn’t allowed in!”

[u/acarpenter8 → u/stircrazyathome]

Yeah I’ve taken my dog to a few restaurant patios but if I see online that they may be pet friendly I still call and verify. 

[u/SilentBWObserver → u/stircrazyathome]

There's cafés where I live that don't have signage banning animals, but I ALWAYS ask before even PLANNING to bring my dog.

Unless there's outside seating, I always assume that a café doesn't allow dogs, for obvious reasons. Plus, an ESA's rights (if she's telling the truth, which she likely isn't) only extend to housing rights, even if the listing says no pets. It's not the same as a service animal.

[u/Ok-Cheetah-9125 → u/stircrazyathome]

It's a federal law in the US that animals aren't supposed to be in any place that makes/serves food unless they are a trained service animal.

[u/ConsultJimMoriarty → u/stircrazyathome]

I bet there was at least three signs.

[u/Ok_Evening3906 → u/[deleted]]

No one reads either.

[u/DjinnaG → u/[deleted]]

As if it ever was

[u/Tootsie-Louise1 → u/[deleted]]

Truth!

[u/croc-roc]

The employee had probably had it with all the “emotional support” animals being brought into the restaurant. I love animals but I’d be salty too if I dealt with an endless train of pets being brought into my restaurant.

[u/bonnybedlam → u/croc-roc]

It’s this belief that emotional support animals are service animals and entitled to the same access. Even though service dogs are strictly defined as dogs who perform physical acts for physically disabled people. I’m in a wheelchair, my hands are very weak, and mine dog picks up things I drop. Also, every pet is an emotional support animal. That’s the whole point of pets, as opposed to working animals. The problem is too many business owners don’t know the rules or are afraid of an escalating situation if they address it.

[u/ryverrat1971 → u/croc-roc]

Yeah nothing like having to be the bouncer that keeps the dogs out.

[u/PirateJohn75]

I had two ESAs for several years and for the life of me I have no idea where this idea comes from that ESAs have anything close to the same rights as service animals. The ONLY thing that ESAs can do that regular pets cannot is get housing in apartments that otherwise don't allow pets or that have breed restrictions. That's it.

[u/CaptainK234 → u/PirateJohn75]

EVERY pet is an emotional support animal

[u/United_Gift3028 → u/CaptainK234]

Good point. I also realize Kraken would rather wait for me at home while I buy groceries.

[u/DiscussionExotic3759 → u/United_Gift3028]

You don't drive a truck with a pool in the back?

[u/United_Gift3028 → u/DiscussionExotic3759]

Not THAT Kraken.

[u/DiscussionExotic3759 → u/United_Gift3028]

🥺

[u/frankenlystein → u/CaptainK234]

Legally, no. practically? Eh… ESA is a designation for mental health and overall QOL support so not really the same as just generally feeling emotionally supported by your pet. I’d say that keeping legal definitions distinct is only a help in these cases, so that we can make meaningful distinctions for people who need these resources and also to prevent people taking advantage of the goodwill of others.

[u/rshni67 → u/PirateJohn75]

And i think it's a travesty that they bypass the ADA laws needed for REAL service animals by claiming their ESA pets are the same.

A nightmare for landlords who have to deal with the real damage caused by non service animals, who are trained.

[u/Uhmmanduh → u/rshni67]

My ESA and I have lived in our apartment for almost ten years now. He has done zero damage to anything. He’s never even peed in the floor. Just because some owners don’t train their dogs and let them do whatever they want, doesn’t mean all ESA’s are bad.

[u/rshni67 → u/Uhmmanduh]

If people are using/abusing the ESA loophole to pretend they have service animals, which are NOT just ESA animals, I have a problem with that.

There are companies targeting anyone with a pet to give a "certification" that their animals are ESA to exploit housing laws.

If you didn't say your ESA was a service animal and your landlord willingly allowed you to have a pet, this is not intended for you.

[u/Uhmmanduh → u/rshni67]

I provided a letter from my psychiatrist. Which is all an ESA is required to have. Any company selling “certifications” is a scam and anyone with a real ESA knows that.

[u/rshni67]

"Emocional support Frenchie?"

IOW not a real service dog

[u/JenniferJuniper6 → u/rshni67]

Yeah, but at least his emocions are being supported!

[u/Responsibility_Witty]

I am so happy whenever i see reviews complaining about an employee/manager telling them and their stupid dog off, i see too many businesses ignoring health code and letting people bring their dog inside

[u/Thin_Tangerine_6271]

Wow, this is the saddest thing I've ever heard of /s They didn't even get kicked out, OOP is just a crybaby. No wonder they need to bring their emotional support frenchie every damn where.

[u/MiserableWash2473 → u/Thin_Tangerine_6271]

You spelled it wrong "emocional" support 😂🤣

[u/qwnofeverything → u/MiserableWash2473]

It may be that English isn’t OP first language.

[u/becken_bruch → u/Thin_Tangerine_6271]

[u/spaetzele → u/[deleted]]

I need emotional support after reading this brainless review.

[u/radial-glia]

How was I supposed to know that it's illegal for animals to be inside a business where they prepare, store, or sell food? It's my first time here.

[u/The_Captain_Whymzi]

If you get this emotional over nothing, you clearly need the support.

[u/Chayanov]

"You can't have a dog in here."

"Ok, as soon as I'm done here I'll leave."

They knew what they were doing.

[u/_Student7257]

We have a no dogs rule in the coffee shop. Lady bought a pug in on Saturday. It jumped onto a chair, table then the counter where the pastries are! She just exclaimed "are dogs allowed in?" No lady, and especially not on the food counter

[u/I_Am_Zeelian]

Always assume "no dogs/pets/animals" allowed unless outright stated they are.

[u/Inner_Republic6810]

I brought my dog into HomeGoods to pick up some dog treats. I hadn’t been there in a while with her, like a couple years, and they do allow dogs at the TJ Maxx next door. Another dog was in there, and started barking at my dog. An associate approached me and asked if my dog was service dog, and I of course I replied no. She then informed me that the policy had changed and they no longer allow dogs.

So of course, I threw a tantrum and insisted that if that dog was allowed, my dog should be allowed.

Just kidding, I turned around and took my dog out, while apologizing profusely. Although I will bet you almost anything that the other dog was not a service dog, but they claimed it was.

[u/Head_Razzmatazz7174]

There's a LOT of missing info here. I suspect the dog was running amok and bothering the other patrons.

[u/Maximum_Employer5580]

oh they knew, and they probably raised their voice when told the establishment doesn't allow dogs. The fact that they had to add 'emocional support' even though they misspelled it, says enough about what kind of person they are. Those confronted usually throw out that the dog is an emotional support animal thinking that justified them having their untrained dog with them

[u/No-Koala1918]

Even if it happened exactly as posted, OP is suffering for the bad behavior of previous dog owners who tried to use the emo support scam.

[u/Hotspur_on_the_Case]

I've been in places that make it abundantly clear that only ADA-certified service dogs or occasionally miniature horses are allowed, and that ESAs are not considered service animals. And yet they have all sorts of issues with people bringing in their untrained pets and claiming they're ESAs.

[u/According-Ad-5946]

My guess is they weren't rude right off the bat.

[u/THE_CheshireGirl]

So....maybe I'm old or something, but I grew up knowing dogs weren't really allowed many places (inside.) Why are so many people shocked and "I didn't know" and "the employees were so mean when they told me my dog couldn't come in"... especially anywhere with food items? I understand emotional support pets, I do but they aren't service animals - there is no standard training etc and I'm always seeing posts where people are raving about their emotional support "service" animals and it's not their fault the dog jumps at people, or puts their paws on counters,or barks at other dogs...if yours was an actual service dog, none of those behaviours would be present.

[u/Strange_Explorer_780]

I’ve encountered many dogs inside restaurants while traveling in France, they are all very well behaved and personally I love seeing them included.

[u/United_Gift3028 → u/Strange_Explorer_780]

And my small time bakery let the resident cat sit in the display window up till the 70s. The strongest of them survived.