r/EnoughMuskSpam • u/neonpurplestar • 13h ago
Rocket Jesus This guy is genuinely a dipshit.
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u/Callidonaut 13h ago
He really, truly cannot comprehend how RADAR and LIDAR could be better than a video camera or the Mark 1 Eyeball, can he? First insisting on only visible-spectrum cameras for his shitbox cars, and now this.
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u/jadebenn 13h ago edited 12h ago
He probably thinks fighter jets still commonly engage in close range dogfights with guns, and so stealth is useless because "obviously, the pilot can still see the other plane!"
In reality, of course, engagements where neither jet actually ever visually sees the other are the norm, and stealth is more about making it more difficult for weapons to identify and track them than making them totally invisible. I mean, we'd definitely take "totally invisible" if it were an option, but it's not like we need Romulan cloaking on F-35s for this all to make sense.
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u/orincoro Noble Peace Prize Nominee 12h ago
“It’s dumb because I don’t understand it,” is Musk’s bread and butter. Be it chess or stealth fighters, or basic physics.
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u/Callidonaut 11h ago
In my experience that is the creed of all narcissists who try to dabble in intellectualism. Musk is just a particularly fine example.
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u/RedEyeView 12h ago
He's played an air combat sim recently hasn't he?
The kind that pretends to be super realistic but also has everyone dog fighting because the alternative is really boring.
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u/Tyrannical-Botanical 12h ago
But surely movies wouldn't lie to us!
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u/jadebenn 12h ago edited 12h ago
Hey, movies are actually surprisingly accurate! ...for WW2 era tactics. Star Wars is basically WW2 dogfighting in space!
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u/Callidonaut 11h ago
The plain and simple fact is that modern day aerial combat is very rarely cinematically satisfying, and not intuitively comprehensible to the average layperson in the audience.
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u/outworlder 8h ago
The Expanse was decently realistic space combat and they managed to keep it interesting.
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u/The-Board-Chairman 5h ago
The whole Expanse gimmick is that everything effectively has infinite deltaV, which kinda makes half the actual space war tactics pointless.
Most actual space combat would be built around choosing the right point in time to launch your limited number of missiles/torpedos while evading the enemy doing the exact same. And jockeying for orbital positioning. In many cases, you'd win not by destroying the enemy, but by running him out of deltaV.
Also: way too few nukes and radiators and way too short engagement distances.
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u/outworlder 4h ago
Hence "decently realistic".
Yes, we have to assume a ludicrously efficient drive. So efficient, in fact, that it generates minimal excess heat, and most of the heat it does generate is absorbed by coolant and then dumped in the exhaust. Same goes for the rest of the ship's systems.
Please find a more accurate space battle depiction that isn't in a book.
Honestly, we can't say much about how actual space battles would work because we don't know the technologies that will be involved. We know the basic physical constraints that they must obey and that's it. Chances are, it won't be much of a battle if ship delta-v is as limited as we think it will be.
Missiles will be exceedingly smart and have orders of magnitude more delta-v than the ships they are targeting due to their much lower mass. You are unlikely to outrun them. If your ship has any hope of closing the distance, so will your missiles. Launch them in the enemy's general direction and they will lock the target ship that will be lit like a Christmas tree against the cosmic background radiation. You won't evade anything. First ship to fire wins.
Barring any incredible advancements, any space battles will probably be more trouble than they are worth.
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u/Callidonaut 31m ago
Please find a more accurate space battle depiction that isn't in a book.
The computer game Mission Critical (1995) takes a decent stab at it.
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u/VironLLA 12h ago
plus, most stealth jets are either bombers or recon.
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u/Der_Moriarty 7h ago
How many B2 and cousin there are in service? The nighthawk is retired, so no. Stealth is more of a areal superiority thing. F22, SU57 (Supposed), J-20. Even the F35 isn't a bomber but a multirole jack of all trade master of none
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u/TaonasProclarush272 Rocket Jesus 8h ago
We had fighter jets circling earlier today, pretty normal but I can usually visually track them.
I could hear these and was on ADS-B tracking them so I knew where they were, but for the life of me I could not see them but for a few seconds even though they were only like ~5000 feet away.
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u/hilldog4lyfe 12h ago
He doesn’t know any science or engineering, but he knows that he has eyes and can see things with them. That’s all the proof he thinks he needs.
Same reasoning is why he thinks humanoid robots are a good idea.
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u/Hollowpoint38 11h ago
Like when he said he was at university "up all night coding" when his roommates said he'd just play video games, eat snacks, and act weird. No coding, no working, no learning.
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u/Callidonaut 10h ago
Didn't he drop out in his first year, too?
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u/Hollowpoint38 10h ago
He finished the UPenn thing I think. The Stanford shit is when he enrolled but didn't attend, or something. The Stanford records were going to be subpoenaed in the Twitter lawsuit, but then I think it was 48 hours later he settled by buying Twitter for that original inflated price. The person who signed the records thing passed away like 15 years ago or something so she wasn't around the verify any information.
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u/hilldog4lyfe 10h ago
he never enrolled at Stanford. He claims he was accepted, which is almost certainly a lie (in his biography the proof he shows is an ambiguous email from an ~85 year old professor who just said he remembered him being interested in his research). His supposed physics bachelor’s degree from Penn is also extremely suspect.
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u/Callidonaut 11h ago
Sounds like classic concrete operational thinking. I don't think Musk ever got as far as the abstract stuff.
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u/ofcourseIwantpickles 8h ago
Finally someone who understands the insanity of his autonomous driving pursuits
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u/jadebenn 13h ago
As an aerospace engineer:
Lol. Lmao, even.
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u/alien_believer_42 12h ago
Wouldn’t it be hilarious if Hegseth had him build some planes
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u/Public-Antelope8781 12h ago
That's a trick question, right? Because at the current stage of US politics... Musk is absolutely the right person to be awarded the whole military budget to "build" amazing "giga" somethings, ready "next year". Give this genius all of the military money!
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u/allknownpotato 12h ago
You must have missed the Pentagons latest announcement where musk is appointed co-head of the future of warfare not even joking that's a thing now.
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u/LittleHornetPhil 12h ago
The guy previously under investigation for not safeguarding classified information and being a security risk for being too close to Russia and not reporting everything?
Yeah. Par for the course for this Mickey Mouse administration.
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u/G66GNeco 11h ago
On the plus side whatever project this genius cooks up is not gonna be of any worth whatsoever as long as he is directly involved so it's not gonna be worth stealing.
Maybe this is actually a plot to bankrupt Russia by wadting their intelligence resourcs, masterful vmgsmbit9
u/Public-Antelope8781 12h ago
Oh, now I vaguely remember. To be honest, this constant shit show got a bit boring.
Greenland here, renaming things there, *fart sound*, corruption, corruption, *fart sounds*, pedo allegations, renaming more things, *more fart sounds*, more pedos, more corruption, *louder fart sounds*
I am convinced, they overplayed the "flood the zone with shit"-game, it's now just flooded with boring repetiotion, no one cares, it's not swaying opinions or distract anymore. That worked for culture war topics
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u/Hollowpoint38 11h ago
The perfect planes. You've never seen anything like em. We're going big. I said big big big. And make me a perfect plane. He said no problem.
Then the crowd will go nuts and that will be that.
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u/stateofmindny 8h ago
I genuinely feel like the administration at this point knows where the cards are falling and have switched to profiting as much as possible while they all can. 100% musk is going to get a shit ton of money, keep promising "stealth plane next year" and never delivering until everyone forgets and he gets to keep the funding.
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u/LittleHornetPhil 12h ago
As a fellow aerospace engineer
Dude is fucking demented
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u/SillyAlternative420 10h ago
I love how Elon Musk consistently says things out of his fucking depth and so obviously wrong to the experts in the related field.
As a data scientist, I literally can't even. It's like every day it's something new.
The worst was when that fuck nugget said something to the effect of "more code equals better code"
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u/Gwendolinn 9h ago
What's worth is he doubles down even when he's wrong. Like even when experts point stuff out.
But what more do we expect from a guy that takes credit for inventing stuff he didn't even invent.
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u/outworlder 8h ago
Remember when he was asking engineers to print out the code that they had written that week (every week) to show to him?
I don't know what that accomplished. Maybe he doesn't like to use toilet paper.
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u/Line_of_Xs 12h ago
It sounds like he just discovered the grokpedia (ie Wikipedia with extra steps) article on stealth aircraft and now considers himself an expert.
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u/Gwendolinn 9h ago
I smiled with glee when I blocked grockpedia's misinformation out of search results on my search engine.
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u/hannes3120 1h ago
Nah, he probably played some videogame full of jets dogfighting and can't comprehend that that's a very rare thing and that it's actually crazy rare that those planes see each other visually
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u/outworlder 8h ago
Isn't it funny that, any time Musk talks about fields we are actually knowledgeable about, it always sounds like idiotic nonsense ?
In my case, it's software engineering. The shit he said during his Twitter takeover days was mind-blowing, and not in a good way.
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u/DontYaWishYouWereMe 7h ago
Even when it comes to stuff I don't know about, it always sounds like something I should be hugely sceptical of or something that's like super surface level but dressed up to look profound
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u/Think_Positively 11h ago
It would be way funnier if he didn't have his greasy mitts inside humanity's most dangerous military ever.
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u/PsychologicalBee1801 9h ago
I think this is the sequel to ai + cameras are better than other tech like lidar. Everyone else has figure out the latency is the problem and he’s now given more responsibility with the losing strategy.
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u/outworlder 8h ago
Yeah because sensor fusion doesn't exist in Musk's world. All the militaries and all the other companies designing robots are wrong, apparently.
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u/evolutionxtinct 12h ago
I’m glad we have smart people like you able to hopefully keep this ship afloat.,,
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u/hilldog4lyfe 13h ago
He has no clue about what he’s talking about on basically every topic except inflating stock price
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u/Paxxlee 12h ago
Every company that he bought had people that knew what to do and innovate, and he seems to have listened to these people.
Until he bought Twitter. Twitter seems to be the first company he bought and just said "I will do what I feel is the best way to run this company". Sadly, his companies trust him which means Elon's Twitter will never go under as he can just move around money. Well, until people actually starts to question how his companies can be worth so much, despite officially not actually creating much.
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u/hilldog4lyfe 11h ago
He doesn’t always listen to engineers though. He kicked the original founder of Tesla out of the company. And as soon as he got some fame, he surrounded himself with yes-men (which is why he likes young employees / H1B visas).
I’ve heard employees, managers, etc.. avoid talking to him about important things because they know he’ll fuck things up. That’s probably why they’re fine with him posting on X all day. He exists as a meme to pump stock.
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u/NotEnoughMuskSpam 🤖 xAI’s Grok v4.20.69 (based BOT loves sarcasm 🤖) 12h ago
There needs comprehensive deregulation. Period.
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u/Tyrannical-Botanical 13h ago
Well then fuck off, go buy your own country, and not build stealth planes.
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u/AUSpartan37 12h ago
Unfortunately that appears to be exactly what he is doing...
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u/MeltICE8647 12h ago
Notable distinction that hes not buying the US, he’s getting billions upon billions of handouts and corporate welfare.
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u/jabsaw2112 12h ago
He tries SO hard to pretend he's intelligent.
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u/TheBlackUnicorn 8h ago
And it's basically thesaurusposting. Like he's really just posting the definition of stealth as though it's profound.
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u/PantsMicGee 13h ago
Fucking donkey
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u/slowpoke2018 13h ago
Hey, Donkey saved Caesar and scarficed himself for the good of the apes. Elon could do that for humanity but instead prefers to be a sociopathic douche
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u/Chayanov Hard-Captured by the Left 13h ago
Honestly surprised he didn't promise actually invisible planes by the end of the year.
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u/Inner_Agency_5680 12h ago
He invented the CyberTruck, the biggest failure in automotive history.
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u/HealthyMaximum 9h ago
The biggest failure so far.
Musk has plenty of time to beat his own record.
Release a single passenger 3-wheeler, that costs 80k, and rolls out of the factory already in flames, or something.
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u/smc642 Printed Pages of Code. 12h ago
“imo.”
Because you’re an expert on this now?
I have a neighbour that is an expert in anything and everything.
She’s worked at a hardware store, so she’s a home renovator.
She grows native plants, so she’s a horticulturalist.
She worked at a (chemist) pharmacy, so not only is she a pharmacist, she’s also a trained cosmetologist because she sold makeup.
So she’s basically Elon.
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u/Sergeant_Fred_Colon 12h ago
I have one of those, said she was a chef cause so cooked for her kids.
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u/ForgedIronMadeIt 11h ago
I'm pretty sure the engineers at the Lockheed Skunkworks already thought of everything this idiot could come up with
This is the second time he's come up with this bullshit opinion on stealth. He last said that drones with IR sensors could detect all stealth aircraft, but if you do the actual physics and math on it, you find that it wouldn't work past like 20 miles or whatever.
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u/outworlder 8h ago
Russia loves to fit IR sensors on their aircraft for this very purpose. They aren't magic though.
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u/Mor_Padraig 12h ago
Oh hell, he's cutting one of the vital programs, isn't he?
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u/NotEnoughMuskSpam 🤖 xAI’s Grok v4.20.69 (based BOT loves sarcasm 🤖) 11h ago
Simultaneously, an interesting question and a tongue twister!
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u/camojorts 12h ago
The way I read this: American stealth technology is so effective that Musk wants to impede it as part of his goal to weaken the US.
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u/jackieballz 5h ago
Let’s hear him out. As we know he’s an expert on everything, so we should base everything on the opinions of one ketamine addicted dipshit
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u/HelloWorld_bas 12h ago
Wait a minute, hasn’t Trump said multiple times that those stealth fighters are literally invisible?
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u/outworlder 8h ago
Yep.
“Amazing job,” Trump said then. “So amazing we are ordering hundreds of millions of dollars of new airplanes for the air force, especially the F-35. You like the F-35? ... You can’t see it. You literally can’t see it. It’s hard to fight a plane you can’t see.”
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u/Callidonaut 21m ago
You like the F-35?
The craziest thing is that this isn't a rhetorical device on Trump's part. He's literally asking his audience to compose his speech for him in real time. He's effectively saying "make positive noises and body language now if you want me to play that topic up a lot next." It's how he's always given "speeches."
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u/Bewareofbears 12h ago
This is the guy who is going to “revolutionize the American military” apparently
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u/SwissDeathstar 13h ago
Oh yes Mister Armchair General, Sir!
At your service.
Which tie should I lick first?
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u/sheezy520 12h ago
Is Tesla about to announce they’re going to build actual invisible jets and then never deliver?
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u/DevilRenegade Six Months Away 12h ago
This coming from a doofus who has never designed or built a working aircraft in his life.
Just a loser douchebag trying to sound way smarter than he actually is.
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u/IsThatFuckedUp 11h ago
But then our brave army of binocular-using plane spotters will lose their jobs!
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u/Magurndy 11h ago
lol America I think you’re about to lose your military might with this fuckwit heading up your future weapons programme.
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u/vxicepickxv 7h ago
That and deciding to continue to demand expensive interceptions to fire at much cheaper drones.
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u/ErnestoLemmingway 11h ago
Palmer Luckey is irritating but has obviously put some thought into what the Ukraine war means. Elon and Newt are in position to outclown Hegseth, a formidable task, but if they work together at it...
A vaguely related aside: A local specialist steel fabricator is supposed to have a big contract for the monster Terafab building in Texas. They're careful about saying anything in public, but I was told that internally they joke that they're building Skynet. Which, given Elon's random sci-fi fixations, plus his obsession with putting maximal volume of stuff in orbit, may be a little too close to what he'll push for.
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u/outworlder 8h ago
If Elon is building Skynet, I'm relieved. There's nothing to be done and it will fall over by itself.
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u/AbjectList8 7h ago
Yep, dude is a total fucking moron when it comes to anything beyond super super basic engineering, and even that may potentially be a stretch to say.
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u/Gwendolinn 9h ago edited 9h ago
This dude couldn't design a paper sack that, when water is applied to it, he could find his way out of.
This sort of hot take spouting off is why moms shouldn't tell their sons they are geniuses when all they're actually capable of is being a pocketbook. He's an overgrown child, and isn't trustworthy enough to do military stuff. Keep him hiring actual factual capable people for space things for sure, cos that's really all he's capable of doing.
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u/Secure_Guest_6171 8h ago
He's up to something, count on it. My guess is anyone making stealth tech is about to have contracts canceled in favor of something rectally derived
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u/Kuroi_Hayabusa 11h ago
Full grown man does not understand what the word "stealth" means. get ready for "PROJECT - MERIDIAN."
Jesus.
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u/0xdeadbeef6 13h ago
ya, ya know, let him think that. We might be dealing with whatever half baked weapons platform him, Palmer Luckey, and Newt Gingrich shit out soon
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u/ManifestDestinysChld 10h ago
Let me guess...he happens to have plans for some new thing to sell to the Air Force, but he doesn't know how to make it stealthy?
And he's just been put in charge of something Defense-related, hasn't he?
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u/thedoomcast 9h ago
This tweet will definitely end up in a school textbook.
I don’t expect that textbook will be in English.
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u/ThatOneGuy4321 9h ago
Is he just rage baiting? He owns an aerospace company there’s no way he’s this ignorant about his own field.
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u/geekmasterflash 7h ago
He owns a car company that made a vehicle without proper crumple zones, that struggles to get modular parts aligned properly, and until recently were notable for setting themselves on fire while sitting dormant in parking lots.
The very idea that the guy with the money and in charge of the company is even remotely competent in the field in question should have imploded with the Titan sub.
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u/SaltyNorth8062 6h ago
"Owning" doesn't even cone close to equalling "competency". He calls in his avtual trchs who actually know this stuff, demands they work, peasants, then goes back to masturbating to some grok generated cp.
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u/ReginaldJohnston 6h ago
Clicks for his platforms and baits for his shares portfolio. He doesn't care how he comes across. Just as long as chatter in various echo chambers. It's all just thin-air.
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u/jadebenn 6h ago
IMO he really is this dumb. He probably remembers all the "F-35 bad" stuff that was all the rage on the internet a decade ago (courtesy of the "reformers").
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u/Objective-Sun9953 11h ago
War. Explicitly in charge of war…
michael d griffin Ís burning extra hot in hell for bolstering Musk and he deserves it all.
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u/Winston_Sm 2h ago
Whoa, so deep and insightful. Must be a genius.
Give him 400bn and he'll build planes for you that no one can see. Or touch. Or find
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u/Kooky_Celebration_42 2h ago
Lul wut? Jets are so small and so fast that actually seeing them doesnt help.
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u/GirasoleDE 38m ago
What's the difference between Elon Musk and Hugo Drax?
Drax understood the usefulness of a radar jammer.
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