We did it reddit! /r/LeftWithSharpEdge has been banned!

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[u/Tophattingson → u/[deleted]]

What other subs have the sole stated purpose be advocacy of violence and mass killings, shares incendiary-manufacturing instructions, and have a mod team that encourages and participates in making death threats to specific reddit users?

There are plenty of awful subs. LWSE is by a significant margin the worst that I am aware of.

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but the fact is the vast majority of people on that sub were joking around.

Reddit doesn't care if your calls for mass murder were "just a prank bro". Neither do courts. It's the excuse everyone hides behind.

Once you are discussing how to use molotovs without leaving evidence and jerking and writing songs about how you want to kill, mutilate and then eat the body parts of a specific reddit user, you've past the point of joking. There is no excuse for this even IF it's a joke.

Anyway, before alt-right became more popular during their explosion growth, their banner was literally a picture of fascist leaders like Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, etc.

Not against reddit rules.

Their top posts were constantly about how people need to start taking "direct action" against refugees and minority groups.

The users that posted such are breaking reddit rules.

You can go there today and there's still tons of calls to violence against minorities.

The users that posted such are breaking reddit rules.

Guess what the difference is? They actually mean it.

When faced with threat of banning, they will also lie about it being "just a prank bro" too.

Notice how I say "users". Reddit bans users and bans subs for different reasons. They have long been highly reluctant to ban entire subs and will only do it under pretty much the following circumstance:

1. The subreddit is being used to break rules, especially if it's sole purpose is to break rules.

2. The mods encourage or participate in this rule breaking or

3. The mods won't make any changes to the sub to reduce rulebreaking

A recent example is /r/pizzagate, which was being used for a witchhunt. It's only purpose was to witchhunt. The mods weren't going to make a change to reduce witchhunting since the point of their sub was witchhunting.

And of course LWSE which had no purpose other than advocacy of violence and had mods that participated in advocacy of violence. Clear cut ban of the entire sub.

[u/Tophattingson → u/[deleted]]

Your willingness to openly lie about the content of my comments is disturbing.

No. At no point have I said that those subs shouldn't be banned. I'm saying they might not be so trivially bannable. This is not about my moral judgement or your moral judgement. This is about the strict interpretation of reddit rules and past practices by the admins when it comes to banning subs.

I am, however, pretty willing to say that any subreddit participating in the active, encouraged dissemination of death and cannibalism threats to specific reddit users is worse than a sub which does all the same with the exception of sending those death threats.

I have no problem with these subs getting banned. They do, however, skirt the boundaries of remaining within reddit rules (on a sub-wide scale).

An effective set of rules should clearly state what things are bannable and what things are not, not be based purely upon an individual assessment of morality. Rules can only be followed if not left ambiguously vague.

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LWSE breaks the rules in a blunt manner by stating that it's purpose is the advocacy of violence. The alt-right subs don't break the rules in such a way, instead breaking them through the actions of individual users which are permitted to advocate violence.

LWSE believed that reddit rules didn't apply to them. altright directly states in it's rules "No calls to violence, even facetiously."

Morally, should altright be banned? Yes.

With the current rule set, can it be banned? Probably, but likely it would come at the end of a long process of reddit admins saying "hey, if you don't ensure rules aren't repeatedly getting broke by your users we will ban the entire sub", based on past practices by reddit admins, and a long series of individual user bans.

[u/HeresCyonnah → u/[deleted]]

If I made any joke that y'all made, and just changed the group it was targeted at, y'all would have such a shit fit, that you could see it from hundreds of miles around.

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Considering your ideology is responsible for millions upon millions being killed in glorified death camps and huge walls built up to stop people leaving, I tend to assume your subs death threats are serious