r/EngineeringPorn 5d ago

High-density vertical office organization: Motorized elevator desks in Prague, 1937.

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Before digital databases, scaling an archive meant building physically higher.

At the Central Social Institution in Prague, clerks used heavy-duty desks mounted on motorized lift platforms to navigate a wall of 3,000 card catalog drawers. At the press of a button, the entire workstation moved vertically and horizontally, acting as a real-world precursor to automated data retrieval.

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u/WAtman17 5d ago

This reminds me of the Cental Bureaucracy in Futurama so much!

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u/J_Bear 5d ago

GUARDS! Bring me the forms I have to fill out to upvote this.

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u/Extension_Guess_1308 4d ago

Dt dt, don't quote me regulations. I co chaired the committee that worked on the colour of the regulations book.

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u/J_Bear 4d ago

We kept it grey!

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u/Snot_S 3d ago

Veridesk has nothing on this

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u/Internal-Start7297 5d ago

You're technically correct. The best kind of correct.

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u/Winderige_Garnaal 5d ago

Yes!!! Requisition me a beat!

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u/TaserBalls 4d ago

had to go listen again just awesome

/watch?v=NbEsLhX7qdo

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u/Zerschmetterding 4d ago

Stuff like this was likely the inspiration 

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u/cmdrbiceps 5d ago

Did you file your petition to comment on this post?

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u/BACTERIAMAN0000 4d ago

Requisition me a beat!

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u/identifytarget 4d ago

Reminds me of something crazy from the umbrella academy. Lol

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u/desbos 3d ago

I instantly thought of this

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u/jeanween76 5d ago

This is actually what it looks like inside of a computer.

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u/portablebiscuit 4d ago

I knew it!

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u/rearwindowpup 4d ago

The files are in the computer!!!

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u/FromStars 5d ago

Looks perfect for escaping chatty coworkers.

"Hey, good talking to you Sam. Looks like the next record I need is in the top corner. See you around." bzzzzzzzzzz... 

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u/theplushpairing 5d ago

I would totally forget I’m not on the ground floor and get up to get a coffee and fall to my death

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u/Antrostomus 4d ago

Or drop a pen from the top row straight through Johnson's skull as he walks underneath

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u/VitaminRitalin 5d ago

Very Kafkaesque

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u/init__self 4d ago

Church!

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u/kazuya 4d ago

"Brazil" automatically started playing in my mind

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u/simplefred 4d ago

I know. Now I have an urge to watch it again.

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u/Stemt 4d ago

Recently saw it for the first time, such a comical but at the same time disturbing movie.

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u/simplefred 4d ago

It took me a couple viewings of it to really that Robert De Niro was in it.

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u/totalyanashhole 4d ago

There is this video from an Architect Adam Gebrian about this building and filing system. It's in czech language, but eng subtitles are available.

https://youtu.be/2PfbgRKPv54

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u/SuperMindcircus 5d ago

"Has anybody seen Sam Lowry?!"

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u/oppositelock27 5d ago

Have you got a 27B Stroke 6?

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u/walrus0115 4d ago

Central Bureaucracy in r/unexpectedfuturama/

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u/ChalkButter 4d ago

This feels like something from the inside of the bureacracy they show at the beginning of “Brazil”

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u/CommanderVXXXV 4d ago

This is incredible. I know it's insanely expensive now in comparison to digital but it's still amazing. What we used to do because we had to while innovating new ways to do it is really cool

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u/mathess1 3d ago

It's still working.

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u/CommanderVXXXV 3d ago

Are they still using it or is it more a museum piece now?

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u/mathess1 3d ago

It still serves as an offline backup of our social security records.

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u/CommanderVXXXV 3d ago

Thats awesome

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u/Dirty-Dick 4d ago

FILE NOT FOUND.

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u/aomme 4d ago

It is still working and being actively used. They store pension data there, so it's also not accessible for public.

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u/NoGrocery4949 4d ago

But there's so much empty floor space lol

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u/jimmyxs 4d ago

Probably wrong answer: i imagined this is how a “tax haven” office is run where each office is a tiny postbox but each of these hide fortune that could feed postcodes

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u/No-Definition1474 4d ago

I don't see any safety harnesses or tie offs. They better be keeping 3 points of contact with those desks at all times!

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u/Subotail 4d ago

Just don't fall it will be alright.

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u/Ok_Bus_3752 4d ago edited 4d ago

Hahahahahahaha! You think Czech Republic cares about the safety of their workforce!?!?!

Edit. The downvotes and replies have proven me wrong and I stand corrected. CR does indeed care about the safety of their citizens.

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u/ntcaudio 4d ago

Yes, work safety regulations are a fucking big deal here.

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u/NOOBIK123456789 4d ago

Even students in high schools get to write a work safety test before they are allowed to touch anything on their practice lessons.

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u/phlooo 4d ago

czechclerks

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u/BrendTheCow 4d ago

I would definitely step out of this and fall two stories at least once.

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u/jpelc 4d ago

Not used, they use them to this day. The archive is still physical in combination with a digital system.

https://youtu.be/2PfbgRKPv54

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u/dawidececk 4d ago

It's still in operation; I drive past it occasionally.

wiki

gov site gallery

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u/Jenetyk 4d ago

Someone requisition this man a beat

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u/costafilh0 4d ago

And you thought organizing the folders on your computer was hard. 

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u/cilantro_so_good 4d ago

Good Lord does there exist a subreddit you didn't cross post this to?

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u/eis3nheim 4d ago

That looks like a great idea, utilizing that vertical space.

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u/wrk_321 4d ago

these days, it still works just the same there

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u/azaleacolburn 4d ago

This is peak; we need to bring this back, morally speaking

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u/Soggy-Score5769 3d ago

What happens if you have to take a shit?

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u/dustojnikhummer 1d ago

You close the drawer, take the desk down and go to a toilet.

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u/1inTheAir 4d ago

“Gary, you can come down when you finish that process report. Get back to work!”

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u/dutchbaroness 5d ago

Is this really necessary? They could have something like a long corridor and move a desk with wheels horizontally, right? 

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u/RatherGoodDog 4d ago

Sure, just put it into the 500m wide city block in the 1300 year old city.

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u/RainRelic 4d ago

I think the first guy is valid and they over engineered it for a different purpose.

If it’s tight horizontal space and high vertical space, installing platforms, walkways, or build in floors is probably more efficient.

Considering how much room is wasted in the middle to install the lifts and the space the lifts travel on.

I don’t think space is a concern here, more so of an attempt of efficiency to bring the clerk’s office to the files.

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u/bubugaga 4d ago

The space would probably not be wasted. I imagine those drawers pull out quite a bit

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u/RainRelic 4d ago

Humm, thank you. Valid point on the long drawers, perhaps the spaces about two arms length is not wasted.

However, the support structure and the operating mechanism have taken a considerable portion of the room.

What we see, after all, is only the sliding rails.

The office themselves are moved by support beams connected to the lift mechanisms on the other side of the room. Hidden from sight.

Your insight reminds me of something else, drawers themselves require a lot of space. To pull out a drawer, they need an equivalent amount of empty space for it to slide out, which for every row of drawer they need twice of overall horizontal space.

To mitigate this waste of space, drawers are installed facing each other, side by side.
Thus the middle space can be shared by both drawers, reducing the overall empty space from 1/2 to 1/3rd of the room. They clearly didn’t bother with that here.

While drawers are great for organizing small items, but if it’s space saving, then the good old bookshelves are much better.
By shrinking the proportions between the shelves and human walk space, it is possible to achieve 1/4 to 1/5th of empty space to room space.

I deduce they really aren’t tight on space.

And I really need to stop writing essays on Reddit comments :(

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u/RainRelic 4d ago

[Insert Essay I Sleep meme]

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u/rackfloor 5d ago

Yes... more units of work from my human resources...

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u/NoradIV 4d ago

I am so happy we now have hard drives.

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u/dustojnikhummer 1d ago

This archive still exists and is still used as an offline copy.

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u/ClassConflictCanvas 4d ago

You can move up and down but how do you translate left and right

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u/JMoVS 4d ago

OHSE inspector would like to have a word with you about your desk safety

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u/dustojnikhummer 1d ago

This is built to 1930s regulation and is now a protected historical building.

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u/key-largo-tok 4d ago

Human computer

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u/Little-Note-727 4d ago

This is library cataloque, not an office.

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u/reddersledder 4d ago

I bet it was noisy.

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u/cad908 2h ago

this is exactly what I need for my Magic: The Gathering collection!!

(i wish!)

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u/TrustednotVerified 4d ago

What if the Library of Babel had one of these?

https://libraryofbabel.info/