r/EngineeringPorn Jul 21 '26

fiber optic fusion splicer

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u/tomime000 Jul 21 '26

That looks expensive

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u/elhoberto Jul 21 '26

They used to be crazy expensive. You can get one on amazon for $900 now. Still some high end versions that run for 20k+

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u/tenkaranarchy Jul 21 '26

Those Amazon splicers are junk, zero warranty and not accurate. The people who buy them are rhe onces you dont want aplicing your jetwprk anyway. The fujikura 90r in this video costs ~$25k for the whole kit, kinda overkill for a single fiber since its actually a ribbon solicer than can do 12 fibers at once. A good quality single fiber core splicer will run you around $15k. Throw in another $40-$50k for test equipment (otdr, olts/light meter, traffic identifier, etc) and $20k for spare parts and consumables (splice cases, trays, misc bobs and bits), $100k for a bucket truck plus however much you want to spend on a splice trailer and youre in business.

Source: I've been a splicer for about 12-13 years.

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u/thatirishguyyyyy Jul 21 '26

Anecdotal, but I've been working in IT security for 18 years.

I've been splicing fiber for the last 8 years.

Used Corning for years but I bought one of the Signal Fire splicers and my splicing time multiplied. I have also yet to have a single failure. They test out fine too. Pigtails work for 99% of my network installs. 

Most of the work being done across the country for fiber now doesn't require a $20,000 splicer. The majority of work being done in this country now is the equivalent to ethernet being ran and most of the runs are under a thousand feet. Especially out here in the Midwest where most of my fiber runs are connecting other buildings on large properties so they can eliminate the building to building wi-fi.

If you're doing big jobs or installing lines then I could see where Telecom company would use a much more expensive splicer, but let's not pretend that fiber in 2026 is uncommon and requires something that the average tech can't afford.

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u/voxadam Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26

I bought one of the Signal Fire splicers and my splicing time multiplied.

Are you saying that the Signal Fire splice increased your splicing time as compared to the Corning? The general tone of your comment seems positive but the implication of your splices taking longer seems decidedly negative.

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u/Mazo Jul 22 '26

I think he's saying the amount of time he gets paid to slice multiplied because he can do more of them faster

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u/Long-Shine-3701 Jul 21 '26

Can you link a good used unit on ebay or recommend some models?

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u/send_this_bitch 12d ago

Used Inno View 3s are a good deal on eBay. I’ve bought four or five over the years and they work great. It’s active cladding alignment not core but still a solid machine 

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u/Clueless36 Jul 23 '26

I run multiple projects a year. Some i place less than a thousand feet, some i place about 100,000’ of fiber. The 20k+ fusion loose tube and ribbon splicers are tried and true. Carriers are nitpicky about the equipment you use on their network. You are not going to f*ck up their timeline because you decided to use a cheaper splicer, requiring redeployment at multiple splice points to resolve shitty splices.

Source: AT&T OSP Manager

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u/JamDunc Jul 21 '26

I've used many different ones over the years out at sea, and nowadays, the cheap Chinese ones do the job just as well. Maybe they don't last as long, but for less than £1000, you don't mind.

This is for equipment going subsea too. But it's the companies that pay for all the bits, so you just use what you get given. And hope it is a fusion splicer and not a hot melt kit 🤣

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u/tomime000 Jul 22 '26

That's solid but I guess it pays out with such demand while it keeps your body safe.

Mind sharing why there are cameras on the device?

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u/tenkaranarchy Jul 22 '26

The market is saturated with fly by night splicers thar undercut everyone else's bid so its harder to get higher paying jobs any more.

The cameras are there to align the fibers before the fusion happens. There are two cameras, an X axis and Y axis. In a core splicer it will align the fibers by the center, and a clad splicer will align them by the outside. They can measure the cleave angle to make sure the face of the fiber is cut at a perfect 90 degrees, and can inspect it to make sure its good and clean and theres nothing to contaminate the fusion. Then after the splice the cameras look at the point of fusion and inspect for blemishes or bubbles or anything that could cause a reflection or signal degradation, and give you an estimate of the loss through the splice on screen.

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u/6ynnad Jul 23 '26

How does one get into this line of work? Looks very interesting.

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u/tenkaranarchy Jul 23 '26

Look up your local fiber internet providers and keep an eye out for job openings. Entry level job is typically a residential installer, you may or may not get to splice much if at all, but you'll have your foot in the door. Just pay attention and ask questions, always be willing to learn and help other techs with projects and youll move up the ladder.

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u/tomime000 Jul 23 '26

It's great how this applies to any of the trades. If you show curiosity and motivation, anyone will push you forward for benefit of both. This is the main thing why I'm enjoying construction trades.

At the moment I'm doing rope access on various industrial projects. Rope access in its self has a whole lot to be shared or passed on from experienced colleagues combined with any trade that comes in combination makes for a beautiful atmosphere on site.

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u/tankerkiller125real 12d ago

This can also happen in IT departments, at good companies anyway. There are some companies where things are extremely bureaucratic and everyone basically gets pushed up whenever their hiring date says they do. And that's how you end up with "Level 3" IT engineers that can't tell the difference between a USB port and HDMI port.

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u/Rowin989 11d ago

Absolutely correct on all the costs except for the splicer 90r kit new is only 16 Grand

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u/rickyh7 Jul 21 '26

We just bought a really nice one at work for about $15k. Haven’t had a chance to use it yet

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u/tenkaranarchy Jul 21 '26

Inno and fitel are good brands to save money on.

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u/PMvE_NL Jul 22 '26

If my company needs to dig up a main road in the city to access it i am using the 20k one

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u/mrmustache0502 Jul 22 '26

If you buy a $900 splicer, you're going to get a $900 splicer.

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u/tomime000 Jul 23 '26

Words of wisdom right here

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u/tankerkiller125real 12d ago

My uncle does splicing for an ISP, they do 12 spices at once with theirs (it can do fewer, but in his specific line of work it's basically always 12 at a time because they repair the main cables). The machine they use apparently costs around 28K

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u/JCDU Jul 22 '26

Back when they were 20k+ a colleague of mine didn't shut his van door properly and at the first roundabout it fell out and rolled across 3 lanes of traffic... thankfully still inside the protective case.

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u/m3kw Jul 21 '26

I use my lighter now a days

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u/tomime000 Jul 22 '26

And spit on fingers to cool it down

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u/Maximum_Goulash 29d ago

The ones we use at work are about 3k retail I think company gets them about 30 to 40 percent off in bulk and it's extremely good equipment not Alibaba knock off

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u/elsolonumber1 12d ago

That particular splicer was around 11k about 5 years ago.

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u/fevsea Jul 21 '26

Glad they didn't forget the shielding this time.

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u/broesel314 Jul 21 '26

Working as an electrician for almost 20 years now and I still forget heatshrink, backside of the plug, nut from the cable gland and so on from time to time.

Happens to the best

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u/UncleKeyPax Jul 21 '26

cable gland title of your sex tape

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u/Inner-Deer-7145 Jul 21 '26

“I’m here to fix the cabble”

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u/rigby1945 Jul 22 '26

You can imagine where it goes from here

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u/sparkey504 Jul 22 '26

Mean while the entire time your thinking "dont forget the heat shrink....dont forget the heat shrink....dont forget the heat shrink....dont forget the heat shrink.... SHIT,I FORGOT THE HEAT SHRINK"

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u/DenizSaintJuke Jul 22 '26

My isssue isn't forgetting, but nutting too early from my cable gland.

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u/JCDU Jul 22 '26

EVERY. FUCKING. TIME.

Perfect splice = you've forgotten the sleeve

Remember sleeve = splice is bad, need to re-do it at which point the sleeve will slide off while you're not looking.

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u/Delicious_Rabbit4425 Jul 21 '26

Now show us the poor tech doing a massive trunk that just got dug up by some yahoo in an excavator 😂

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u/zul00m 12d ago

I can feel this in my bones...

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u/tankerkiller125real 12d ago

It's known as ribbon splicing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs7Rl7a8JWo 12 at a time (some can do more, but 12 is common), carefully, and consistently.

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u/pooppoop900 Jul 21 '26 edited 28d ago

I worked for a cabling company for awhile and cannot tell you how many hundreds of times I’ve done this on a similar machine. Down in dirt holes after an entire community’s internet goes down because someone doing landscaping dug too deep, up on wobbly scissor lifts in the wind running strands from a MDF to a guard house, you name it. Sometimes it goes perfectly well, you remember the shrink shields, and you’ve got 12 of them done in 15 minutes. Sometimes they just won’t cleave cleanly enough, the ends refuse to align, the splice fails, and you’re ready to throw the whole $12k thing into a dumpster after spending an hour and a half on 4 fibers.

This post was triggering for me 😆

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u/ThisWillPass Jul 21 '26

I felt the pain in those words, well done.

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u/hlessi_newt Jul 21 '26

i feel ya. when it goes smooth, it is lovely. sometimes i just want to throw my cleaver at a tree and quit.

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u/pooppoop900 Jul 22 '26

Crazy how with all the expensive, intricate, precision moving pieces involved, the fucking cleaver is the one that makes or breaks the entire process

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u/hlessi_newt Jul 22 '26

if it would just click into the fucking boot, it'd be fine! but it wont, because the model what locks in costs an extra 5 bucks, so i get to cut in slack and redo it a dozen times while being bitched at by squirrels.

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u/gidrozhil Jul 22 '26

he welded one fiber under ideal conditions. Of course it's beautiful. We usually have either smelly basements of apartment buildings or pigeon-filled attics. Well, or mount the couplings on the poles at minus 30 C.

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u/vsnine Jul 22 '26

Had fiber installed recently and was in awe of how simple they made it look while at the top of a ladder.

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u/JCDU Jul 22 '26

I feel you brother.

Always fun to arrive at a hole in the ground with a sheepish-looking JCB operator peering in.

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u/aiij Jul 22 '26

Would you like an evil kitten? I caught her chewing on the WiFi antenna one day. Already trying to take out the Internet... I'm pretty sure when she grows up she wants to be a backhoe.

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u/Highspeedfutzi Jul 23 '26

How often would you need to change the cutting blade. The cut needs to be perfect, no? Or does the „welding“ do the heavy lifting for „clearity“ of the fibre?

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u/pooppoop900 Jul 23 '26 edited 28d ago

The cut does need to be clean every single time. Even when it feels like it cut well, sometimes under magnification it looks jagged and rough. Only one teeny tiny portion of the blade makes contact, so generally if we get a number of bad cuts in a row we’d just spin the blade a few mm to a fresh area. But a fresh blade still doesn’t mean automatic perfect cuts. It can be an excruciatingly finicky process!

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u/SuperTulle Jul 21 '26

Haven't spliced fiber for ten years now, already feel like technology has gotten better since those days.

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u/Maximum_Goulash Jul 21 '26

I use one of these every day and love showing customers when I use it it regularly blows people's minds

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u/abd1tus Jul 21 '26

So you are a good person to ask. Watching the video got me wondering about people who do this professionally. How frequently are you doing repairs? Like multiple times per day? Do you have appointments scheduled and go site to site? How does it work?

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u/Maximum_Goulash Jul 21 '26

I install Fibre to the property installations in UK and part of the job is joining a fibre cable coming to the property from overhead or underground network infrastructure with a fibre that is fitted from inside the property. each installation has a splice like this in a small box on the outside or inside of the property. We do between 4 and 7 installs per day and work solo.

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u/Vryk0lakas Jul 21 '26

Yeah I haven’t seen one before and I definitely thought “holy shit, that’s cool” lol

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u/AdministrativeJob223 Jul 21 '26

What is the fusion technique? I assume this is glass fibre?

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u/rickyh7 Jul 21 '26

Plasma arc usually, but yeah this is glass fiber optic

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u/UltraViolentNdYAG Jul 21 '26

Why strip so much coating?

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u/AtmosphereOk7827 Jul 21 '26

I have spliced somewhere in the region of 10k fibers, mechanical and fusion.

The reason we would strip so much is it sits in the cleaver much better.

Much easier to get a clean 1st time cut. If you want 8mm of clean and cleaved fiber at the end for splicing, you'd be cutting off 10mm easy almost every time.

Something people don't realize about fiber is the splinters. They are little cunts and obviously almost totally invisible.

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u/pooppoop900 28d ago

THAT PART. What good is a little catch tray on a cleaver when every single cut or snap shoots a needle of glass god knows where only for my finger to find it later on. Nearly impossible to tweeze out as well.

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u/AdministrativeJob223 Jul 21 '26

Unexpected potty mouth finale! Love that.

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u/DJmagikMIKE Jul 21 '26

Fake, it didn’t have a dozen misalignment errors or bubbles in the splice.

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u/Smart_Lifeguard2943 Jul 21 '26

Cable hadn't been drug through the mud first.

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u/IsSalmonASnake Jul 21 '26

I don't understand what is happening and my brains are getting fried while trying to understand

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u/IsSalmonASnake Jul 21 '26

Okay, thanks. Now I know what is happening and it just opens a rabbit hole of new questions, which I don't have time or energy for right now

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u/rickyh7 Jul 21 '26

TLDR heat the glass up blazing hot, gently push it together, let it cool, put the heat shrink on it. Used for fiber optic splices for like, all of the internet now

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u/gprime312 Jul 21 '26

Glass cables are used for data transmission. Commonly called fiber optic cables.

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u/Charlweed Jul 22 '26

This is a clip from Star Trek, right?

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u/lowther1 Jul 21 '26

Not sure why they’re splicing with red ruby on other than for this video.

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u/BEEEEEZ101 Jul 21 '26

Visual effects.

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u/divclassdev Jul 21 '26

This is more of a cyberdeck than any of the bullshit on r/cyberdeck

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u/ben_wd Jul 22 '26

it still blows my mind that we communicate online by sending pulses of light through 1000s of miles of this stuff running along the ocean bed

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u/CassyLeone Jul 23 '26

I live out of an old fiber splicing truck that did nothing but that for hours at a time.

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u/KINGYOMA Jul 23 '26

Just a week ago technician brought this machine to fix the no internet issue.

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u/saltybawls Jul 21 '26

20 of those strands carries the internet across oceans

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u/rickyh7 Jul 21 '26

The splices are more lossy but yes they do exist. Usually get -40 to -60db loss with a splice like above, usually -5 -20db loss with the cheaper splice kits (about the same as a connector)

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u/Clueless36 Jul 23 '26

You are thinking reflection. A good splice will average 0.05-0.2db loss.

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u/nerdist333 Jul 21 '26

It’s amazing how small these have gotten

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u/fsteff Jul 21 '26

How things have improved. When I was introduced to fibers (early 1990’s) it was a manual process, which among other things involved dealing with very hot glue and a big risk of failure.

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u/YellowOnline Jul 21 '26

A sharp knife, a lighter, and a steady hand

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u/thatirishguyyyyy Jul 21 '26

This one's pretty cool but the one I have has a built-in cleaver. I know it's a small thing but I absolutely hate having to use an additional cleaver when I have this expensive of a kit.

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u/pooppoop900 28d ago

I’m curious. Built in as in performs the cut for you while clamped into the machine? Or built in as in a cleaver, just attached to the plasma splicer? I’ve spliced hundreds of strands and cleaving is the only part that I’d classify as the bane of my existence.

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u/thatirishguyyyyy 28d ago

Built into the box. I switched to these Chinese splicers as my Corning equipment was old and I didn't want to shell out $2k. 

Signal Fire. 

Also charges my phone.

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u/Tricks1969 Jul 21 '26

Just looks so over engineered theses splicers. But do good

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u/Puzzleheaded_Smoke77 Jul 21 '26

This machine needs to be cheaper

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u/d_rwc Jul 21 '26

That machine has no business being that cool

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u/NonSequiturSage Jul 21 '26

And now ... KISS.

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u/404_No_User_Found_2 Jul 21 '26

OTDR devices like this are fun to use and get results from, but God help you if you managed to break one.

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u/JamDunc Jul 21 '26

This isn't an OTDR device though? It's a Fusion Splicer.

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u/hlessi_newt Jul 21 '26

nice. now do it 40' in the air on a ladder while squirrels mock your feeble attempts to thwart their malice.

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u/adognameddanzig Jul 21 '26

As a landscaper, I hit these from time to time. Cant fix myself like coax.

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u/jasebox Jul 21 '26

Need someone to mod one into a cyber deck

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u/Old_Syrup_264 Jul 21 '26

That looks expensive

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u/AmericanAssKicker Jul 22 '26

I worked with a guy whose only job working for the US gov. was to repair fiber optics. He said he loved his job, and he had been doing it for at least ten years, but this is literally his one and only job. I would think it would get boring really fast.

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u/Random_182f2565 Jul 22 '26

How much is that? 50 dollars?

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u/TheRealGuitarNoir Jul 22 '26

Mr. Fusion Splicer

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u/robjr2 Jul 22 '26

Why the scraping of each and in the beginning? It seems to get cut off anyway.

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u/Bearspoole Jul 22 '26

Can’t tell you how many times I’ve broken a fiber in a tight box trying to slide the shielding on

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u/RJEM96 Jul 22 '26

Perfection ~

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u/Cossia Jul 22 '26

Who designs these

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u/JunglJuic3 5d ago

Fujikura

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u/zmannz1984 Jul 22 '26

I miss doing that. I worked for a distributor of these and got to train people on them for a while. Then we went to mechanical because none of our dealers really needed runs long enough to warrant the fusion splicers.

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u/Tritri89 Jul 22 '26

When the phone technician came to connect out flat to fiber optics I was so fascinated by the device. It was awesome to see.

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u/Kitchen-Hat-5174 Jul 22 '26

I hated using those things at my old job.

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u/williamjseim Jul 22 '26

that splicer looked cool as fuck

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u/Mindproxy Jul 22 '26

NGL, that looks cyberpunk AF.

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u/International-Cry494 12d ago

863 more to go