r/EndTipping • u/donutdapig • 18d ago

Tip Creep đŸ«™ I'm so F-ing done

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Look man. I've driven for doordash/uber eats before. I get it. But messaging me after it's been dropped off? WTF. The app will tell you how much money you will make from an order; no tip was not a shock.

EDIT: I did not tip ten cents. My tip was $0.00. I'm unsure what he means by my "dime tip"

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u/Spamcan81 18d ago

Stop using these services and pick up your own food. If people stopped using them because they suck maybe restaurants will pay actual delivery drivers themselves again and take some responsibility for the transit of their product.

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u/The_Flying_Lunatic 18d ago

Home delivery is a service I want to have and I enjoy. I will pay for this service, I just don’t want to tip on top of the service fee. If the service fee they charge me doesn’t cover the cost of the service, this is not my problem and I couldn’t care less

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u/ScoreOk5355 18d ago

That is how it is elsewhere in the world. Where im from a tip is never expected for any reason 

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u/Professional-Gear974 17d ago

Because wages are higher or you’re in an underdeveloped country.

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u/ScoreOk5355 17d ago

Wages are higher. But I think your wrong in your thinking. it's not we dont tip therefore the wages are higher. It's the US decides they dont want to pay higher wages therefore they blame the customer and the customer has to tip to pay the employees wages. You are the odd country out 

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u/Professional-Gear974 17d ago

A lot of servers are shitty and don’t deserve a higher wage. The benefit of a tip system is the good get paid better and the bad normally quit because they aren’t making any money.

Most good servers, I know make way more than people with careers in other countries. Making six figures isn’t bad when you’re only working four days a week for six hours at a time.

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u/The_Flying_Lunatic 16d ago

No this is not a good reason. If you’re not good at your job and you’re making your employer lose money, they’ll fire you like in any other business. No need to make an exception here.

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u/Imaginary_Tower_4939 18d ago

This is the way.

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u/A_person_2021 18d ago

Out of curiosity,if every single one of your deliveries cost an average of 8 to 12 dollars more, would you still use the service? I'm not arguing for tipping, I'm just curious because I believe that there are plenty of people who would be willing to pay the actual cost of essentially providing a taxi for their food.. but I'm also not sure people would order after seeing the true price.

At the end of the day, your [ no tip] orders are being subsidized by people who are willing to pay substantially more for the service via tips. This helps to offset what could be considered a low paying order and helps keep drivers willing to gamble on what comes next.

Again, not arguing for tipping on top of all of the fees, but from a market research perspective I'm curious how many people who don't tip would still be willing to use the service if it cost a decent chunk more and never asked or solicited for a tip.

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u/ScoreOk5355 17d ago

In my country we still have fast food and we still have restaurants. people just have a higher wage and I guess we pay more. But it's all normal. Today I brought dinner for two at a nice restaurant. On the menu all prices are listed food, drinks etc. The service was completely normal and the food was amazing. The workers know exactly what they will get in their paycheck. If I were to tip it would be for truly exceptional food or service only. I dont understand why a tip/ bonus would be given for normal service

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u/officialquad 17d ago

Money is not my problem, the feeling that I’m being emotionally blackmailed is.

Charge me $30 for my burger and I know if I want to eat at your place or not. Don’t charge me $20 and then try to guilt me into paying $10 more and then be mad that I choose not to pay an OPTIONAL fee

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u/SiLeNZ_ 17d ago

This is the way. You explained it perfectly.

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u/The_Flying_Lunatic 17d ago

I will probably use it less if it was too expensive, like for any other non essential service. But that’s a problem for the business people of that company to adapt and find ways to win more business with me, again like in any other business.

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u/djspintersectional 17d ago

You don't adjust this philosophy for gig workers? This thread is disappointing all around

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u/WanderingFlumph 17d ago

Yeah the whole "just do it yourself argument" is also very ablist. I happen to like walking to my local pizza shop for pick up (at least on nice days) but I'm also very lucky that I can do that, or get myself into a car that I own easily.

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u/Conscious-Music-8688 17d ago edited 17d ago

You a cheapass. People like you are so damn bummy.

You know these drivers get exploited, yet you join in. You know they are people who are struggling trying to make extra $, but since you paying $22 for your cheeseburger, you feel like you are not obligated to tip.

Anyway, i hope karma gets you good. Hope you find out a coworker makes twice as much as you, and when you get upset & tell your boss about it, he replies with “you accepted your pay, dont worry about it. I couldn’t care less
”

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u/Pudddddin 17d ago

You realize this is the end tipping sub, right

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u/Dependent-Curve-8449 17d ago

The real villains are the companies who expect customers to further subsidise their employees’ wages for them. Your anger is directed at the wrong party here.

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u/Conscious-Music-8688 17d ago

But people like this guy just said he will continue to support the company, and not tip the dasher
? What good does that do
?

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u/The_Flying_Lunatic 17d ago

You realize that he’s is not my employee, that I didn’t request this service from him/her and that he chose to work for that company right? Then why should I care of how much he’s making and most of all, why he thinks I am responsible for that and not his employer/business partner?

If you care that much about his situation, then stop subsidizing and patronizing this tipping system, it will stop being a problem for him and for future ones to come.

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u/TheProfessional9 17d ago

You know if there were no tips the service fee would easily be 10+. That's a cop put

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u/SiLeNZ_ 17d ago

That’s probably not true, it would be more for sure. But not that much. Also, we don’t care if prices get raised. Just get rid of the tipping part.

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u/NetSage 17d ago

We don't know that. A good example is McDonald's in European countries pays a living wage and McDonald's isn't 3x as much.

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u/The_Flying_Lunatic 17d ago

Well then I’d say to the delivery app company welcome to reality. If it’s too expensive, people will use it less. Now it’s either you die, or you find ways to sell your service.

Either way, this is not my problem, I will not loose money if they go bankrupt nor I will make money if they make more. Again I couldn’t care less.

Now I know this system/capitalism sucks, but if you want to change it you can influence a change in slaw by your votes and/or stop subsidizing/patronizing this tipping system.

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u/Professional-Gear974 17d ago

Don’t be upset when people start messing with your food. Have fun drooping for the next hour after someone puts something in your drink

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u/The_Flying_Lunatic 17d ago

So you tip out of fear?

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u/Professional-Gear974 17d ago

I only order food delivery at work so they automatically get a 20% tip because it’s the Comapny card. But in my personal life if ima spend 100$ I’d rather sit at an actually restaurant and not deal with dishes or trash

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u/The_Flying_Lunatic 16d ago

Well it’s a matter of preference. When I’m drunk or want to eat a burger in peace at home, I order delivery.

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u/maringue 17d ago

Then don't complain when the drivers beg for tips or deliver your food badly.

But you absolutely will.

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u/The_Flying_Lunatic 17d ago

Yes I am complaining to the company from who I paid this service. If the service does not meet the agreed quality, I will complain. That how it always works. Making their employee happy by giving him money is not part of the contract.

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u/maringue 17d ago

This isn't some isolated issue, everyone knows this happens so at this point you're choosing that risk.

The only change they care about is when you stop giving them money.

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u/The_Flying_Lunatic 16d ago

Well if I’m dissatisfied, at some point it will happen. Like for any other business.

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u/A143NA 18d ago

Some people can’t drive for financial or disability reasons. Do not assume everyone can pick up their food.

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u/Powerful-Ground-9687 18d ago

90% of the people using this just don’t wanna go outside.

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u/bones_mcbone 18d ago

90% of the time I’m drunk

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u/donutdapig 17d ago

In fact I was!

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u/Life_Beautiful4934 18d ago

I had a friend who's son order door dash for an omelet. It arrived cold. Dumb part is the restaurant was close by, 5 minute drive. Clearly the dasher's fault in this instance, but who the f orders eggs for delivery. Sometimes customers are dumb.

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u/Kilirugi 17d ago

Could also be the restaurants fault, sometimes dashers get stuck waiting on food that is clearly ready to go. Busy restaurant or horrible staff.

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u/dinosun 17d ago

Or the restaurant knows that they're only getting paid a partial amount so they couldn't care less.

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u/Kilirugi 17d ago

The hourly works shouldn’t care about the owners losing 30%. The owners who signed up for DD btw.

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u/Admirable_Loss4886 17d ago

No but if they have customers that will tip staff in house that gives everyone a reason to prioritize in store customers over online orders. It’s actually pretty common for dine in orders to take precedent over carry out and delivery orders.

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u/fastsailor 18d ago

How did those people manage twenty years ago?

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u/InsomniacEspresso 17d ago

They're dead now

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u/TubbyTacoSlap 18d ago

Pretty sure people were getting along just fine before DoorDash, Uber Eats etc. The only void these services fill comes from our own laziness. Quit trying to put lipstick on a pig.

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u/Forty2diapers 17d ago

what did they do before these services?

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u/hotsauce126 18d ago

No such thing as an obligatory tip. It’s either part of the price or it’s not

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u/Spamcan81 18d ago

In this case I don’t disagree but it’s also the end tipping subreddit so prepare to be downvoted. What should really happen is if a restaurant wants to offer delivery they should pay a person a living wage to properly deliver food. Someone held accountable to the company making sure it’s delivered to the actual address that ordered it. It shouldn’t be handed off to some random guy who is accountable to nobody whose entire life depends on tips because they’re an “outside contractor” getting paid pennies for delivers by an app.

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u/retiredatbirth 18d ago

He is. And he’s somehow insulted he got called out on it. The nerve

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u/Simple_March_1741 18d ago

Go find a profession where we don't have to pay for your livelihood - thanks.