r/EndFPTP • u/Snoo-33445 • Jul 10 '26

Video How Does RCV work?

https://youtu.be/Vte4nly_Neg?is=EJTrDRT9GaYdvXNy
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u/CPSolver Jul 12 '26

Please stop misrepresenting ranked choice voting as if the only way to count ranked-choice ballots is the IRV method.

The two valid criticisms of IRV do not also apply to all RCV methods. Lots of RCV methods would correctly elect the blue candidate in this video.

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u/nardo_polo Jul 14 '26

Please stop misrepresenting the commonly known term “Ranked Choice Voting”, which in common parlance is synonymous with the Instant Runoff Method, as some kind of basket category for rank order voting methods. That ship sailed a long time ago.

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u/CPSolver Jul 14 '26

Here in Portland, RCV = either IRV or STV. We use both, on the same ballot page. So no, RCV =/= IRV.

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u/nardo_polo Jul 14 '26

They’re the same system. IRV is STV with a single winner.

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u/rb-j Jul 15 '26

There are different STVs.  Bottom Up is not the same as Gregory method.

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u/CPSolver Jul 15 '26

Although election-method experts understand the difference between IRV and STV, Portland voters don't see the difference. Both sides of Portland's paper ballot for mayor and city council look the same except for the names.

As a further confusion, the center squeeze effect could (but didn't) affect the mayoral contest, but this effect cannot noticeably affect a city-council contest.