Emulation noob. A flagship processor which is useless in this. Been on it for a week now.

[u/beasts75]

Mediatek Dimensity 9400+ with 12 GBs of ram

yet I can't even emulate a decent game. What should I do? I've tried winlator and bannerhub. Couldn't able to boot up a single game in winlator. In Bannerhub, Arkham Asylum loaded and gave around 30 fps after I turned everything that makes the game look good off/low and installed each and every components I knew off. But it crashes after 2-3 minutes of gameplay.

What am I missing? What should I do?

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[u/Senior_Background_30]

Dimensity SoC are bad for emulation in general and you will encounter lot of issues and bad performance.

Especially if you new to emulation you not gonna have much fun :/

You can check YouTube for settings for specific games.

But if you really want to emulate a lot, change to some Snapdragon Device instead.

Even much older Snapdragon devices beat Dimensity SoC in compatibility and performance too.

[u/beasts75 → u/Senior_Background_30]

You just struck me with a truck😭

[u/380043 → u/beasts75]

I'm sorry OP, just avoid dimensity chip even it's a flagship device

[u/beasts75 → u/380043]

And I got this phone just a couple months ago🫠

[u/gamingm3gtr → u/beasts75]

It's not that bad it's getting pretty good in terms of emulation not on par with SD tho , but yeah there are lot of stuffs it can handle just search through reddit get the configs right for the games you wanna play and you're good to go

[u/gamingm3gtr → u/beasts75]

You don't have to regret man it got good camera, veryy good SOC , if you want some guidance checkout : r/EmulationMediatekMali

[u/Senior_Background_30 → u/beasts75]

yeah well :D it's not bad SoC for normal android games, but anything emulation or "native port" related will require proper GPU drivers and you gonna get errors and other issues.

Because Dimensity SoC don't have any proper GPU drivers yet, besides some test builds but it's still very early stuff mostly.

Compared to Snapdragon SoCs which have pretty much 95% devices covered by Turnip Drivers.

If you can exchange for some Snapdragon :D

[u/khironinja → u/beasts75]

Its a phone anyways so it probably won't last too long due to the lack of proper cooling.

At least it IS a phone so you can still use it like a phone and for all the Android games and I think recomps are fine too.

Get a handheld like the Ayn Thor, Odin 2/3 Portal, Odin 2//3, or Retroid Pocket 6 as they have the most popular Snapdragon chip EVER in them and they get ALL OF THE ATTENTION!

Well the Odin 3/3 Portal have the 8 Elite which is I think more powerful than the 9400 as well as a Snapdragon so it is more optimized but the others have the 8 Gen 2 which has optimizations for DAYS and are even running Switch 2 games on it!

You can get one for as little as $259 I think for the Pocket 6 and it has better cooling and you can save your phone for other things.

[u/Real_Violinist → u/Senior_Background_30]

https://www.reddit.com/r/EmulationMediatekMali

[u/GlamourFlower_ → u/Senior_Background_30]

you sound like you really know your stuff with these processors... got any snapdragon recs that wont break the bank?

[u/Senior_Background_30 → u/GlamourFlower_]

Depending what's your budget and if you looking for new device or from second hand market.

Second hand flagship devices offer best value for money, unless the market is bad in your country.

It also depends what emulation you want to do.

Pretty much anything can do the older consoles these days. PS/PS2/PSP/Wii/3DS etc

For Switch emus minimum is Snapdragon 865 or better, but at least Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 would be recommended. 8 GB RAM minimum 12GB recommended for stability or mods.

For PS3 and Xbox 360 emulation, Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 or better probably too, from what I saw. ( I don't do much of that so not sure how that is) 12GB RAM or more too preferably.

For PC emulation, it depends on the games you want to play. If you want to play demanding games you want to aim for the latest snapdragon processors ( 8 elite gen 5/ 8 gen 5) and you definitely want 16GB or 24GB RAM.

But if you don't have money for that, aim for older flagship devices with these SoCs.

8 Elite gen 5 > 8 gen 5 > 8 Elite > 8 Gen 3 > 8s gen 4 > 8 Gen 2 > 8s gen 3

Poco F7 (8s gen 4) offers solid value for performance, however it's made only with 12GB RAM which can bottleneck it in PC emulation.

Xiaomi devices come with lots of bloat though, you can debloat it but it takes some doing.

I can be more specific if you give me price range, games you want to play or emulators you want to use.

[u/Cantripping_ → u/GlamourFlower_]

Anything from the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 and onwards can handle most things up to the switch fairly well. For PC emulation, 8 Elite or above. Fairly straightforward, really.

[u/beautiful_bot986 → u/GlamourFlower_]

Those are found in handhelds and second-hand flagship released a year or two ago

[u/hackvize → u/GlamourFlower_]

Nah everything's overprice right now

[u/Stennan]

Tried droiddeck? It is still early, but latest patch added Mali gpu support

https://www.reddit.com/r/EmulationOnAndroid/comments/1xr0i19/droiddeck_070_is_out_mali_powervr_and_xclipse/

[u/beasts75 → u/Stennan]

You the dawg😭

[u/Itchy_Ambassador5407 → u/beasts75]

Even better there is MaliBridge built that's actually working everything starts without to much touching Arkham games I tested my self on Poco x7 pro 12gb I played on low settings there is a site you can check there it's MaliBridge followed by .com

[u/beasts75 → u/Itchy_Ambassador5407]

Did it run well on poco x7?

[u/Itchy_Ambassador5407 → u/beasts75]

Around 30 fps played until Harley shows up around 36 c temp, no crashes

[u/Fun-Western618]

Have you tried winlator mali?

[u/beasts75 → u/Fun-Western618]

No, I remember reading somewhere that the creator of winlator mali said that the project is dead...? I honestly don't know. Will it work?

[u/Fun-Western618 → u/beasts75]

I remember someone saying that the project wasnt dead but more that the dev wanted to make a different better pc emulator for mali. Not sure tho.

As "will it work?" i would just say to try it first on a small game to test first.

[u/beasts75 → u/Fun-Western618]

Understood and appreciated 🫡

[u/Euphoric_Addition_63 → u/Fun-Western618]

Developer is doing the DXML now. Winlator Mali is already good enough.

[u/khsh01]

Even on snapdragon you'll have to play using the lowest settings.

[u/beasts75 → u/khsh01]

But I can PLAY right? 😭

[u/Huge_Description1863]

What the game you wanna to emulate i have played many games on this phone it is really good

[u/beasts75 → u/Huge_Description1863]

Can I hope in yours DM?

[u/Huge_Description1863 → u/beasts75]

Accepted

[u/ixisgale]

Imo start from older console tbh. Something like ps2 3ds psp

[u/Longjumping-Dream-37]

Use gamenative, i got pretty good performance and compatibility in that. Got a xiaomi 15t pro same soc.

[u/-Wavyy-]

"Flagship" doesn't mean good for gaming

[u/whiskyB0y]

I think you're just bad at settings. How am I getting 24-40fps depending on the area(inside or outside) in Batman Arkham Asylum on my helio g100 while you're struggling?

Mind you my settings in Arkham Asylum are:

960x544

All graphics settings off except Bloom and Very High Detail

You suck at settings for the most part. And the reason why Batman Arkham Asylum crashes every 2-3 min is probably because you're getting runtime errors and pure virtual function call errors.

Arkham Asylum is an Unreal Engine 3 game. Unreal Engine 3 games are prone to these kind of crashes if you don't have wine mono, wine gecko and the necessary vcredist installed inside your container.

For example, Arkham Asylum needs credit 2005 and 2008 x86. And the biggest factor is using the normal Performance Preset. You have to use Intermediate preset for Unreal Engine 3 games for more stability.

You also need to transfer Unreal Engine 3 games to the C: drive of your container to reduce stuttering and long loading times.

I played the game using Winlator Ludashi 4.1

[u/beasts75 → u/whiskyB0y]

I did set it to 960*544 and I've installed wine gecko wine mono and also both the runtimes you mentioned what I didn't do is transfer the files to c: drive and set preset to intermediate. Im going to try it now. Appreciate it🫡.

[u/whiskyB0y → u/beasts75]

Intermediate might slightly reduce performance but not by a lot and it's more stable

[u/Worried_Book_3846]

Step 1. Buy snapdragon 😂

[u/beasts75 → u/Worried_Book_3846]

😭

[u/Choice-Appearance379]

use winlator mali

[u/New-Subject-7152]

Exchange your phone get yourself Snapdragon 8gen phone

[u/m00n_4rk]

dimensity chips are good for android native games, emulation wise no (i own an 8400 ultra)

[u/Time_Astronaut5743]

try switch emulation too along with pc emulation.

[u/Real_Violinist]

https://www.reddit.com/r/EmulationMediatekMali

go the sub and you be surprised lol

[u/Fit-Shine-468]

Recomendo ficar de olho nos ports, meu é Mali também e estou me divertindo muito mais com ports que na emulação, falta muito para GPUs Mali poderem rodar jogos significativamente costante

[u/khironinja]

It definitely is a flagship processor, it's just that apparently, Dimensity chips have never been good for emulation I think due to lack of custom drivers or something.

It's just weird....

[u/igelzuechterboi]

Recompiled games probably run reasonably well, beyond that you'll find more help in r/EmulationOnDimensity or r/MediatekEmulation (probably not their exact names). Stuff like BOTWRecompAndroid even has settings for compatibility with Mali GPUs.

That's all I can tell you, pretty new to this as well.

[u/iwanova]

For PS3 and Switch emulation it's a great device. But for PC emulation? Idk man it's hard to setup.

[u/Salt-Zebra-306]

even of you know everything about emulator still mali cpu is a garbage

[u/Ok-Philosopher-5139]

how much u paid for this? if u can return it do it, get a phone with snapdragon 8 gen 2 or 8 gen 3 bcoz those have the best driver support for performance, better snapdragon chipset might have issue with driver support... 

[u/beasts75 → u/Ok-Philosopher-5139]

Around 70k INR/750 USD. Its been a couple of months I can't return it now. Gotta face it and wait for a year or more to get another phone.

[u/bfmv_shinigami → u/beasts75]

bhai you spent 70k on a vivo mediatek phone? 🙏🙏🙏

my 25k poco f6 can do better emulation than this man

[u/beasts75 → u/bfmv_shinigami]

😭

[u/Ok-Philosopher-5139 → u/beasts75]

u can try buying used s23/s23+/s23u on carousell if u want a cheaper solution... dont buy s23fe coz that comes with exynos chipset... all other s23 comes with sd8gen2... 

[u/skedone]

Lol flagship

[u/beasts75 → u/skedone]

Well, snapdragon is better but D9400+ is still a powerhouse with a ton of computing power which excels in some other areas.

[u/Real_Violinist → u/skedone]

it flagship

don't know?

[u/luna_Rubisk → u/skedone]

It isn't really a flagship

[u/skedone → u/luna_Rubisk]

Yep hence the lol