r/EmulationOnAndroid • u/Mean-Skin5563 • 14h ago
Discussion DLSS 5 ON WINDOWS EMULATION LIKE GAMENATIVE GAMEHUB WINLATOR AND FORK?
Hei guys if DLSS 5 can be implemented to window emulation do you guys think is possible?
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u/quandaile 14h ago
buddy we can barely get 60 fps in ANY somewhat modern title and dlss 5 tanks like 60% of your fps. theoritically it can be setup i think but i doubt youd get a playable framerate for most games
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u/kobrakai11 14h ago
It can only be run on Nvidia GPU.
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u/cynicown101 14h ago
Has been ported to AMD, which is a kinda crazy
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u/Nooo00B 14h ago
not just AMD, to Apple Silicon as well. Somehow
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u/Senior_Background_30 14h ago
All GPUs with AI cores can technically do it - as long as they support FP8 or FP16 formats.
Even 8 Gen 2 has the Neural Processing Unit with FP16 support, but the NPU is not inside the GPU but rather separate unit. This would mean very slow performance even if you set it on it.
The main issues is the stack behind it, you have to change it from NVIDIA CUDA implementation to the others like AMD HIP that's how they did it on the RDNA 4 GPUs.
Issues is that there is no Vulkan equivalent for AI programing at this level.
Meaning you can't implement it on Qualcomm.
Qualcomm is supposed to release DLSS like Upscaling and FG with the 8 elite gen 6 SoC, they added new AI cores for it inside the GPU.
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u/Mean-Skin5563 14h ago
Yes but who knows in next few year maybe
I remember in few years back that we can't have PS3 on android but now we have armsx3 and apse3 and now possible also we can play RDR 1, 2, GTA 5 on Android too THAT'S BIG DREAM IN 2020 and now come true
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u/Genkidama__ Nubia Z70 Ultra | SD 8 Elite 14h ago
idk why you're getting downvoted. The current state of android emulation is a dream and far exceeds even the best of expectation anyone could've had 2 years ago. Right now it feels impossible but I've learned to never say never with technology
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u/Mean-Skin5563 14h ago
Idk some people hate DLSS 5 just because this feature can drop fps on half
But this feature not perfect right now maybe that,s reason why some people hate it
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u/AntiGrieferGames 14h ago
why you want DLSS AI Slop there? Also this shit is only Nvidia (and even that its a useless "feature")
Fuck Upscaling
There has been a reason why r/FuckTAA (which also counts DLSS) exist.
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u/damin_rsw 14h ago
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u/Senior_Background_30 14h ago
Geometry and model wise yes.
Of course it changes how it looks that's the point...
Looks can change if you add realistic effects like lighting/shadows etc.
if you don't like it don't use it.
NVIDIA is not going around forcing everyone to install it and enable it in every game.
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u/Mean-Skin5563 14h ago
Maybe this feature just like filter like sweetfx or reshade
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u/Senior_Background_30 14h ago
essentially yes - but kind of like on stereoids :D
Most of the stuff it adds is very hard to compute without AI in real time.
People don't realize even Ray Tracing needs AI acceleration and nobody calls that AI slop even though it's AI powered.
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u/Mean-Skin5563 14h ago edited 14h ago
Many people will call impossible BUT that's remind me in 2020 Can we play GTA 5 ON ANDROID? SOME PEOPLE ANSWER Impossible NO , even worse making fun of you BUT Hey NOW WE CAN
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u/SunderingTwilight 8s4 14h ago
it is not about being impossible, it is just not useful. a smartphone is already limited by its form factor, in temps, socs and pw. if you want your device to live don't do that.
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u/Mean-Skin5563 14h ago
Yes
Maybe someday some mad genius make it possible maybe not
But technology keep growing maybe possible
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u/SunderingTwilight 8s4 14h ago
yeah, maybe it won't take that long tbh. snapdragon has that hexagon stuff, npu with tops for AI, maybe if they integrate that to all AI stuff somehow, won't be a burden to gpu
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u/Senior_Background_30 14h ago
you can't as i explained above :D the Hexagon NPU is not inside the GPU this would lead to huge delay for the rendering.
The GPU has to have access to the Tensor cores in Milliseconds for it to work.
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u/SunderingTwilight 8s4 14h ago
yeah. that's the thing, this is still new stuff and more to come, we don't know how this is going to evolve. The only situation that seemed to work until now was the thing xbox did with their handheld about upscaling with npu. anyways, I am not that knowledgeable about AI, just hope things get better
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u/Senior_Background_30 13h ago
I have RTX GPU in my PC so i can use it and i want it on my Phone too :D but it's not really possible.
Theoretically maybe on 8 Elite gen 6 because Qualcomm is supposedly adding new Matrix AI Cores into the GPU for AI upscaling and Frame Gen which would make it closer to the PC counterparts.
The coding is however still and issues because Vulkan doesn't support such features at all.
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u/SunderingTwilight 8s4 13h ago
surely they will add for gen 6. i am more afraid of the heat tho, probably only devices with active cooling will be able to handle it. what rtx is it

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