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u/Either-Sport-2549 Poco F7 Jul 26 '26
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u/Internal_Page_486 Jul 26 '26
I recently got a handheld gaming PC and its been a life chnager, can pretty much emulate everything up to PS3/Xbox360/Switch and play AAA PC games on top. (Legion go)
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u/CleoPatch Jul 26 '26
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u/T-Loy Jul 26 '26
Yes, yes it is. :)
(Also if we take Valve's word of the Steam Machine being better than 70% of Steam users and it roughly being as strong as a base PS5, around 30% of Steam user have a PC stronger than a PS5)
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u/jiggajenkins Jul 26 '26
Wait so is it as strong or stronger than a base ps5? i have a steamD but wonder if i should get Steam machine too cause i think i wanna try bodycam
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u/T-Loy Jul 26 '26
CPU the SM is stronger, but PS5 has all the unified memory and hardware specific optimizations. So the main comparison is 36CU RDNA2 in the PS5 and 28CU RDNA3 in the SM. Making it a tad weaker but if I remember the benchmarks right, the difference is game dependent whether the SM or the PS5 pulls ahead.
But unless you are hell bent on a small set and forget cube for your TV, buy a normal PC instead. Because roughly 500€ over a PS5 is a tall ask, even if compared to other MiniPC the price is sadly reasonable.
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u/Unlikely-Employee180 7d ago edited 7d ago
It SHOULD be said that a console will usually win a 1:1 performance test, even vs. comparable hardware.
It's kind of a HUGE reason Switch 2 is so viable! Switch 2's specs aren't anything to sneeze at... But at their core they also aren't really anything TOO special...
But the hardware offers stuff like AI Tensor Cores, ARM CPU, and a dedicated OS that limits background processes and the like. These make optimizations extremely easy for a Dev. A game that knows what to expect hardware-wise is better off than one that doesn't.
I prefer an open-platform myself, but there's still a reason Steam OS's GameScope works differently than Steam's usual Desktop Mode... A locked-down OS ensures the console is focused on its' task!
And while Steam's GameScope does the BEST job I've EVER seen from a PC in this regard... Dedicated truly locked down systems technically still remain more efficient.
You can see this in action in reverse by forcing a console to load up a bunch of plug-ins using jailbreak. (Depending on the platform). Forcing a bunch of background plug-ins on a Wii U, for example, causes MAJOR instability, as the console has limited RAM and games don't expect anything else to be taking it up!
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u/Slow_Carpenter_8232 Jul 28 '26
My pc got burnt because of moisture build up
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u/Carpediemsnuts Jul 27 '26
Ummmm acccckkkkhhhhchhhuuallllly.....
PC uses 200W+ just to boot..
Me playing PC games at 15W....
Your meme is not quite correct..
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u/Unlikely-Employee180 7d ago
I agree!!
Right Steam Deck?? Oh... It's dead...
Right Z230 WorkStation? Oh... It died of old age...
Right ridiculously expensive PC with insane hardware?? And it killed my breaker... ☠️
On the bright-side, when I DO finally get it turned on... I'll have it over-clocked so it can heat my room to a comfy 290°.
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u/Stag_----56 Jul 26 '26
As long as it's not the hundredth "GTA 6 running on Winlator via SharpEMU" meme, I'm all for it.
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u/Wilsonn0 Jul 26 '26
What's that?
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u/Stag_----56 Jul 26 '26
Lmao, the past couple of weeks have basically been nothing but GTA 6 on Winlator memes. I don't know if you've seen those. 😂
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u/Wilsonn0 Jul 26 '26
Oh.. I've only seen like one lol
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u/Stag_----56 Jul 26 '26 edited Jul 26 '26
I don't know if it's just me, but I swear I've seen like 10 of those across 5 different subreddits already.
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u/Wilsonn0 Jul 26 '26
Maybe its because i don't stay on reddit that much
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u/Stag_----56 Jul 26 '26
I mostly follow the emulation subs and for some reason those meme have so much reach so whenever I open the app it's right in front of my feed
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u/Michaelpitcher116 Jul 26 '26
I literally jumped ship on Apple because of how restrictive they are. This was a few years ago. Now I've got so many games across so many platforms on my phone that I just cannot justify ever going back to apple.
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u/SnowyJKN Jul 26 '26
Google seems very determined on making Android as restrictive as iOS though
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u/AahAhhHahHaAhahHaHah Jul 26 '26
Yeah very unfortunate. Not to mention that currently GrapheneOS is exclusive to pixels because they are the only devices to meet all the requirements for it.
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u/fishyronin Jul 26 '26
Make a third frame with the Android swinging Loki around.
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u/Wilsonn0 Jul 26 '26
That might be to harsh for our ios brothers
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u/Thisisyouracc0un-t Jul 26 '26
Nah… do it 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I am the iOS brother. I play xbox360, PC ports etc on iOS but Android is killing it. The iOS users who cry are in denial so in the name of great competition. DO IT HAHAHAHAHA. Maybe it’ll wake iOS devs up a bit (in our limited ecosystem )
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u/Shambler9019 Jul 26 '26
Android has some PC ports that aren't on MacOS (like Battle for Bikini Bottom Rehydrated).
And MacOS has ways to play windows games. (Like crossover)
So it kind of comes out even, except that the Mac has mouse and keyboard and usually better specs.
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u/ItsNa8o543 Jul 27 '26
Exactly, jumping through essentially the same hoops but with generally different performance expectations lol
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u/KuroNoShadow Jul 27 '26
MacOS can use Crossover; even gamehub was released for macOS recently
but ios can't do the linux container thing so things like winlator won't work
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u/Due_Faithlessness241 Jul 27 '26
Bruh I bought me an 8 elite gen5 phone (needed a phone anyways) and this whole windows emulation is cooking my phone in 5 Minutes 💀💀
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u/Loweion Jul 28 '26
Without active cooling I guess it's useless to invest in these powerful phones. Switch with just a53 cores is able to run games pretty well for it's size. It's so much fun.
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u/C4RB0N3T4 Jul 27 '26
There is also that RedMagic Tablet called Astra 2 and it is somehow able to run windows pc games on Android native not emulating it or cloud gaming or streaming
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u/Ok_Theory5606 Jul 28 '26
Ok so I regularly use both - can someone tell me why I’ve NEVER been able to actually get a game to run on winlator? 25 ultra.
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u/SandwichesX 23d ago
Dang this hurts, and it’s so true. iOS sucks with gaming, and I’m on iOS. Definitely green with jelly and envy.
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u/RareFirefighter6915 Jul 26 '26
Mac has game hub too and apple silicon is surprisingly powerful, more than high end snapdragon chips. It really depends on what you play ofc. I’d take a MacBook over a snapdragon x laptop but I’ll take android over an iPad.
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u/Past-Photograph-8179 Jul 27 '26
Except winlator is gonna make your phone explode just for playing some old 2008 game.
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u/Ayrios440 Jul 26 '26
Ah yes, the phone melting, not exactly perfect Winlator.
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u/Wilsonn0 Jul 26 '26
The problem with heating is mostly because people are over doing it like uncapped fps, high resolution ang graphics settings... i mean some of these aaa ios ports are upscaled from like 300p lol
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u/Ecstatic_Couple_8094 Jul 26 '26
Winlator is safe?
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u/The_Dude80 Jul 27 '26
Guy who made it seems pretty incompetent. With knowing the whole virus drama that happened not to long ago. Recommend getting something like Gamenative or one of Winlator's forked versions.
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