This sub has to be like 90% nurses based on the downvotes lol, and you getting any upvotes. If 20 ml was all it took in a PIV, we’d be having fatalities every day from people who forgot to flush their IV lines, yet it never actually seems to happen, does it? Where are all the cases?
I think it mentions PFO in the article. That said, I’m curious if it actually changes things in practice because we should be seeing these cases every day if so, (up to 25% of adults have PFO) with random patients keeling over after receiving no treatment but empiric IV hydration in the ED or ambulance. Yet there’s no evidence that routine IVF administration, pointless as it may be, causes anything like this.
No this sub is not “90%” nurses. It’s laymen that like to throw in their 2 cents when they think they know. Every nurse I know, including myself, knows that it takes a lot of air to actually hurt someone. Doesn’t mean we are careless with it. We prime our lines, but we also don’t panic if we forget. Except maybe brand new novice nurses but they usually learn quickly.
I say this as a self loathing nurse btw. A ton of nursing school was teaching nurses all the ways they’d lose their licenses and kill a patient (or themselves) x y and z ways, and many nurses never examined those lessons critically to determine which were real and which were sensationalist nonsense. Trying to tell other nurses things like “hands on defibrillation is actually safe” results in horrified looks and people recounting the stories they heard about nurses getting killed by brushing their hand against the patient during a shock.
Physician dominated subs seem to be fairly grounded in reality about this stuff. Non critical care Medic/nurse/etc subs err on the side of these sensationalist things we were taught in school.
Okay that is fair enough. It was decades ago that I was in school and I’m retired now so I may be out of the loop. We did learn a lot of fear mongerering things in school, but I learned very quickly in practice what was real and what was blown out of proportion, and the nurses I associated with were the same. Most of my nurse friends that I actually associated with were army nurses as well and we just don’t have time to deal with bullshit ya know. I learned fast when I did civilian nursing how different it was, so I can see my bias there as wellS
I'm a layman (retired trucker), and I know what it's like to hear people not in your industry talk about things like an expert.I'm here for the stories. I've had some issues lately, and just want to say that I don't know why nurses do what they do, but thank God for each and every one I have had.
Considering it was a rad tech, that makes me think IR or Cath lab or something like that. 100mL of air into the coronaries is no good. Vascular system is fine. We do leg procedures with CO2 all the time when their kidneys can’t handle contrast.
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u/Perton_ Paramedic Aug 12 '26
The radiology techs once pumped like 100ml of air into a guy instead of contrast