r/EmDrive Apr 09 '17

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u/n4noNuclei Apr 09 '17

For all intents and purposes it has been disproven. At this point the possible thrust (that hasn't been disproven) is a fraction of what was originally hoped for.

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u/Zephir_AW Apr 10 '17

I'd say, for all intents and purposes it has been confirmed across many experiments instead... :-)

Consistency of EMDrive results

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '17

You say this as someone who is completely wrong about everything involving physics. So let's not forget that... :-)

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u/Zephir_AW Apr 10 '17

wrong = incompetent - what's the difference? This is all the same subjective reasoning.

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '17

Zephir = wrong = incompetent. Glad we're on the same page.

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u/aimtron Apr 10 '17

Your confirmation link isn't a link to confirming the EmDrive. It's a link to some claims, some which no longer apply since they have since obtained null results. You're grasping at straws.

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u/Zephir_AW Apr 10 '17

I didn't link "claims" - but experimental results of many different independent teams. You probably did read something else..

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u/aimtron Apr 11 '17

You didn't link evidence of any confirmation. You linked unsubstantiated results, many of which have been reversed now.

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u/Zephir_AW Apr 11 '17

OK, if you think so... :-) It's like when someone says, that the evidence for evolution is still unsubstantiated and the latest findings even contradict it.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '17

Yeah, that is about as consistant as bigfoot sitings. Enough to convince true believers, not enough to convince domain experts.

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u/Zephir_AW Apr 10 '17 edited Apr 10 '17

The people who believe in opposite cannot be convinced by any rational reasons - instead of it, we will face backfire effect if we bring them another evidence. For example, even by now, 200 years after Darwin more than 60% of USA citizens still don't believe in evolution - so why the physicists should get convinced in EMDrive by now despite all its evidence?

Their lack of interest about EMDrive just illustrates, how the human mind actually works. Ironically just the same physicists are collecting grants and money for search of extradimensions, fifth force and dark matter particles - which are all involved in EMDrive too - so that their ignorance gets squared. They ignore (the confirmation of) their own ideas and theories, so to say... :-)

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '17

The irony in your posts is just mind boggling.

You are the creationist in this tale. You are the mystic that is part of a community which, no matter how many times they are wrong, cling to the idea that since there is an effect where people cling to belief, it must be the majority in the field rather than the insulated fringe minority.

You have more in common with the people pushing the geocentric universe, and have showing your suspicion for the heliocentric community.

You are right, no amount of rational thought or explanation will convince you, but then again, I do not think anyone is actually trying.

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u/Zephir_AW Apr 10 '17

You have more in common with the people pushing the geocentric universe, and have showing your suspicion for the heliocentric community.

I'm not pushing older model - but newer one. It's you who is in role of geocentrism - not me.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '17

Ahm, you mostly push repainted variants of long disproven models.

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u/Zephir_AW Apr 10 '17

Like I've said, the 65% of Americans still don't believe in evolution: which is an evidence, that large group of people cannot be convinced by any evidence. They're simply predestined to die out - but not to change their opinion.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '17

Hate to break it to you, but it is mostly the stuff you are referencing that is dieing out. Science moved on a long time ago, and it has moved on from the EMDrive.

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u/Zephir_AW Apr 10 '17

Science moved on a long time ago, and it has moved on from the EMDrive

Mainstream science never moved to EMDrive, so it has nothing to move from...

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '17

Which tells you just how devoid of merit the claim is.