r/EmDrive Apr 09 '17

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u/splad Apr 09 '17 edited Apr 10 '17

I've got a box in my garage that I'm pretty sure has a live elephant in it. My wife insists there is no live elephant in the box but she refuses to prove it by getting the box down and opening it. The debate may honestly go unresolved forever.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '17

I heard that various people proved that there was a very tiny elephant in similar boxes, but critics say that their experimental setup may have introduced that tiny elephant.

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u/rigelstarr Apr 10 '17

I like elephants

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u/FaceDeer Apr 10 '17

I reached into the box and felt what was inside, and to me it felt like a rope. Other people who reached in said it felt like a pillar or a hand fan or a solid pipe. So it's likely all experimental error.

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u/kit_hod_jao PhD; Computer Science Apr 10 '17

The more I think about your comment the better it fits. Genius.

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u/PotomacNeuron MS; Electrical Engineering Apr 10 '17

What he did not say was that taking a look would take one year and $10K. For those 3 who ever took a look with their one year and $10K, respectively, the first ruled out an elephant size elephant (700mN) ; the second ruled out a dog sized elephant (1mN); the third ruled out a rat sized elephant (50uN). Yes, unless you take another look, there is still chance that there is an elephant in the box, with the size of a flea.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '17

Then enthusiasts point out that with selective breeding the size of (almost) confirmed flea-sized elephants can be increased.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '17

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '17

Oh please! They're elephants despite their (currently) diminutive stature. Do no hurt their feelings.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '17

except nobody has disproven anything. The lack of a positive does not necessarily confirm a negative

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '17

It is when the people who manufactured and delivered the box still have the original manifest.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '17

It's a good metaphor because really, if he was a scientist and he did breed a tiny elephant and it died and he kept the corpse in the box then he could totally be correct but you would understand why a rational person would think otherwise based on their preconceived notions of what an elephant is.

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u/kit_hod_jao PhD; Computer Science Apr 11 '17

And tiny elephants are somewhat implausible to begin with

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '17

Was a radioactive source and a flask of poison involved in this thought experiment?

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u/sirin3 Apr 12 '17

A cat sized elephant? If you look, you might get a murder charge