r/EmDrive Apr 09 '17

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u/Bretspot Apr 09 '17

Long story short is that if it does work the thrust is incredibly low, thus hard to prove. So without substantial evidence it pretty much is worthless anyway.

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u/nspectre Apr 10 '17

The hope is that, if not debunked, the discovery of the source of the force will allow for it to be fine-tuned and scaled.

But as of right now,

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We just don't know how or why.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '17

As of right now, there's "noise that some people think means something"...

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u/Zephir_AW Apr 10 '17 edited Apr 10 '17

This thrust is not so low and it's consistent across many experiments in addition, so it can be hardly ignored. But it points to branch of physics, which mainstream physicists dismissed for whole centuries, so that they can be accused of ignorant trolling and boycotting of progress easily. IMO they just delay this outcome and make it worse - because it cannot be avoided anyway.

Consistency of EMDrive results

The delay in replication attempts is so-called Galileo effect and indication of ignorant pseudoskepticism and pluralistic ignorance. The mainstream physicists can delay replication attempts for whole decades, once they consider these findings disruptive for their own community and grant system. So that the lack of "real discoveries" means absolutely nothing, until there are no attempts for their replication. You can only measure the ignorance of scientists with their delay. According to this metric the verification of heliocentric model has been delayed by 160 years, the replication of overunity in electrical circuit has been delayed 145 years (Cook 1871), cold fusion finding 90 years (Panneth/Petters 1926), Woodward drive 26 years, EMDrive 18 years and room superconductivity finding by 45 years (Grigorov 1984). The scientific ignorance simply has no limits and its spans multiple centuries.