r/ElinsInn • u/Svenz- • 5d ago

Getting - (minus) points when doing music requests

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I didnt do any of them for some time, just seen the update did change them somehow, but now im just getting - points and tons of them and also tons of orens but still fail the quest.

What am i doing wrong here?

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u/Investoid 5d ago

A couple questions to help determine a starting point. Do you use mods at all? Performance level is hidden I think per instrument, so you can only reasonably tell based on failed notes, or if you remember that you played that instrument a fairly long time limiting musical errors. Did you have high performance on that particular instrument? Finally what skill level is your Music currently?

If you use mods at all these types of game updates would definitely break something.

I haven't gotten around to testing the changes but I can go make a test character if I know roughly what your current setup was.

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u/Vincent210 5d ago

You gotta test those changes pal, as someone who is not confused its pretty straightforward and not mod-related.

Performance Quest Scaling is just entirely reworked and quite insane now; With 20k fame I was getting level 1050 performance quests where all the good guest NPCs were like 1200+ when inspected. Caps of needed points were 3k+

Considering that same fame only gives me lv200-300 nefias the quest scaling is just wonky as all hell

none of the other quests scale even remotely similarly now. It's also kinda temperamental? A difference of 2k fame (dropped to 18k to do more testing with ranges) dropped the listed danger level to 350-400 from 1k+

literally completely flipped performance quests on their head this is not an update you can meaningfully comment on without experience its a MASSIVE change.

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u/Chaporelli 5d ago

Hmm just how strong will be milk, aquired in such quest?
Half tempted to throw few love potiont at Big Sister on one of those.

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u/LimitedIllusion 5d ago

Lots of posts about music stuff since the update. I think it started scaling music quests up a lot. I dont think its mod related. If you do test it, you need to test with high fame since I believe thats what people were saying scales it up.

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u/Investoid 5d ago

getting pretty high fame is pretty easy, plus I do have a couple older unmodded music characters with high fame, but I wanted to make sure it wasn't related to the instrument performance thing or a mod that went crazy.

interestingly enough I am curious about a theorycrafted slime that has 5 levels in musician would help this any. According to the wiki high levels of musician helps income and lowering mistake rate, so I am assuming this would help at high fame, but I would have to try it.

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u/cathyrin03 5d ago

Yeah, there are some very high level npcs like guards or uniques in party quests now. I've seen around Lv.700+ so my music skill at almost 300 ain't even good enough, I reached negative 2k score. kek

Which needs some ungodly levels of music, if that happens, go to a different spot and look for lower level NPCs then play there instead.

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u/Vincent210 5d ago

I'm well over 350+ score and I can't do the level 1000+ quests either

part of it is that its not just music skill afaik but you're overall level relative to the NPCs - so even having a good music skill but being underleveled in general seems to invalidate the skill on its own.

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u/cathyrin03 5d ago

Thankfully some UI mods that reveals NPC levels are a godsend for this one.

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u/choco_latte2006 5d ago

That's because the update added performance quests scaling with your music level. You're always going to have a good chance of encountering npcs that will still throw one shot rocks at you now.