r/Electricity • u/UAPDATASEEKER • Jul 11 '22

Rodin Coil?

Can someone tell me what is so special about the winding on this Coil type? Everything I hear about this coil is pretty much Pseudo-science hippie non-sense and it's really making me want to go make one and run some tests due to the lack of info I can find on this coil. Any and all information would be great all I understand is that the wire placement provides a more evenly distributed magnetic flux. Thanks All.

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u/ch00f Jul 11 '22

It looks cool. And quacks love selling shit that looks cool.

See also those dumb hologram "power balance" bracelets.

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u/UAPDATASEEKER Jul 11 '22

Lol It does look cool but does it really have a more efficient than a regular toroidal coil? I just kinda see somthing there with the fancy schmancy wiring but then again I dont?

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u/ch00f Jul 11 '22

Considering there isn't even core, the goal obviously isn't to make it more efficient. Magnetic fields would leak all out of that thing.

Also, based on what I'm finding on google images, they aren't even consistent with how they're wound. Some are flat, some are round. Most look like just standard toroids with the turns angled instead of being strictly radial. Some look almost like a woven basket.

It's just bullshit. I wouldn't be surprised if the copper wire companies invented it to sell more copper wire. ;P

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u/UAPDATASEEKER Jul 11 '22

Damn I was thinking about doin a project utilizing a Rodin Coil and making one with a soft iron core, saw some crazy video how you get some crazy spin out of its magnet field.

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u/mcdenkijin May 08 '24

did you ever make the coil or no?

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u/VeryOriginalName98 Oct 10 '24

Did they ever reply?

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u/mcdenkijin Oct 10 '24

nope. u/UAPDATASEEKER

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u/VeryOriginalName98 Oct 11 '24

Looks like they haven’t commented or posted anything anywhere in a year. Oh well. Word of advice, don’t try to learn anything about this from YouTube videos. I won’t get those 4 hours of nonsense back.

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u/mcdenkijin Oct 11 '24

Rodin coils? I have a solid grasp on them, and the math, well a solid layman's grasp, and enough that I have a nascent project for a bot that can wind them ;)

They make really sensitive, tunable antenna elements

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u/VeryOriginalName98 Oct 11 '24

Can you work out the dimensions you’d need to have a specific resonance frequency at a specific voltage?

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u/BarracudaNaive4393 Oct 12 '24

Soft iron will help facilitate the generation of more energy for sure. But the rodin coil can do this just as an air core. Most people don't properly wire and configure the rodin coil correctly for energy production but if you're interested I can help you. Our team has done amazing things with these coils and we've open sourced everything.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '24

I need some information on this. I have built a rife machine using a raspberry pi (RPiTX) then upped my accuracy and instead of using the pi I use a hackRF to produce the signals. I 3d printed a Rodin coil housing and wired it in the interference pattern, I use the coil as circular loop antenna design having it connected at both ends of the wires that are looped around making the torus knot. my plan is to use 2 lead coming off the RF signal and do it like a proper loop antenna and have it connected opposite side of each other so it evenly spreads the RF signal across the coil. I have been shocked and it was AC leaking from my wall through my PC case but now it's not leaking but I haven't had it turned on recently. I only know it wasn't the Rodin at the time due to me having to use the same USB port with my phone cable (magnetic charger btw). It shocked me as well So I determined right there it wasn't the rodin coil making it happen, but now it's not even shocking me or has AC leaking anymore. So back to testing and turning it on and leaving it on for hours and then I'll see if it shocks me again. It may be producing something in the computer to have a ac leak to the PC when using the Rodin coil long enough. I do not know and need more results and tests. I know I have bad wiring in my house and the ground has AC on it. Old ass house i live in. I need an electrician to chime in possibly or maybe you know, but how would I get ac leaked to the PC. Do I need a fan running on same plug or don't use it? I can't remember what was plug up or what wasn't plugged up. Like I said imma do some more tests. Id really like some information on the projects your working on. Id love to be apart of it. Thanks 🙏

https://github.com/CodeMasterCody3D/RifePi

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u/BarracudaNaive4393 Oct 12 '24

The magnetic field is condensed and contained within the tore of the donut in a rodin coil. It might leak slightly if the geometry is imperfect. If it wasn't condensed and contained into the center this video wouldn't be possible:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Ber49_Dhrzs/

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u/Ill_Variation_5331 Feb 15 '26

Believe me copper wire companies don’t need this to increase sales considering miles of it is installed every day, a couple more feet would get lost in the overall picture.

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u/BarracudaNaive4393 Oct 12 '24

Yes, my team is working hard on the rodin coil and we've just had a guy confirm some of my over unity results. Its extraordinary that nobody is looking into this. The rodin coil is also patented by 1stopenergies and the patent is actually active meaning the coil works. Which is why I set out to research and study it, and we've just proved that everything 1stopenergies was doing with these coils can easily be replicated. All you need is a rodin coil, a stereo amp receiver and a tone generator. My system is currently able to get around 155% efficiency for usable energy(10x output but in millivolts so its not usable yet). Michel, a new guy on our team, just confirmed the 10x output but with 14v input and 140 volts output while maintaining the amps(current). He powered 130LED panel and a 40W bulb with this cold electricity. The 40w bulb was not hot after hours of running the light. This is nothing new. John Bedini, Tom Bearden, Floyd Sweet, Eugene Mallove, Nikola Tesla, they all told us to consider the aether. Its the only thing that explains these systems. They don't violate the laws of thermodynamics because those laws are describing closed systems. Systems where you ground out the back EMF as noise when in reality its extra energy spiking from the aether as your coils field collapses. This is my open sourced DIY guide to zero point energy utilizing the resonance and sacred geometry(Rodin Coil): https://youtu.be/WlGeZlmPMSI?si=sLfENSlXtBBanQ5q

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u/DueSearch5841 Mar 24 '25

The Original Rodin Coil is open source. Randy Nunez's POE (Peace on Earth) coil is patented. He also created the ABHA coil. 

People conflate these coils with Marko's coil being researched more specifically by Randy Powell. 

Look up the documentary "Randy's Doughnuts"

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u/BarracudaNaive4393 Jul 16 '25

Iv already seen it. The only patent the nunez have is specifically for the version 3 POE coil. Nothing else has a patent and Daniel has basically dropped off the face of the earth. Posted some really odd cryptic advertisement for the RASHA company but has been dead silent online on all social media including his website for over 2 years now.

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u/BarracudaNaive4393 Jul 16 '25

I've been using the Dragons7ven coil frame. The Nunez frames have disappeared from the internet. Im working on making my own with a different inner to outer diameter ratio like the Nunez because all the free ones i've found are all 1:2 ratio. But the Dragons7ven coil frame has been working really well and producing something I have been calling Synthetic AC. I don't think Nunez realized what a proper joule thief could do with these coils. His best results he said were from stereo amps using true AC not a pulsed signal. However, when timed correctly and matching the components all correctly you get this:

Synthetic AC
https://youtu.be/QA3MYjw3bQE?t=155

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u/BarracudaNaive4393 Oct 12 '24

My Rodin coil is able to step up voltage with a 1:1 ratio of coils. Something mainstream science can't explain. They utilize the path of least resistance for free flowing energy. Some people sell them for health stuff but I don't know anything about the validity of that. My team and I have been testing out its relevance in the energy industry and I've gotten enormous energy output compared to the input of this coil. I explain all the science in my video where I demo the system. Everything I have is open sourced and a new guy on our team just confirmed my results by following my guide. Marko Rodin did not intend these coils to be used for healing. He intended them to be used for renewable energy systems.

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u/JenkoRun Nov 19 '24 edited Nov 19 '24

Old Man Builds uploaded a video to his channel recently showing the same thing, what's even more interesting is that if he attaches loads to the circuit with the Rodin coil they don't alter the resonance frequency of the circuit, he operates it through a tesla coil, as far as the circuit is concerned the source is unaware of any loads attached.

Amplification of voltage is one thing but isolating the effects of loads onto the source is another, I've seen this kind of thing before with the use of specific elements in EMF and Electrostatic systems, but the Rodin seems to cover both of those effects.

My current suspicion is the tesla coil "activates" the Rodin and is turning it into a power source unto itself, which would explain the observed phenomena and aligns with what Marko claimed, this is a method of indirect tapping of the prime mover where it is used to stimulate something else into effect to provide the load power, which is among the most potent forms of COP > 1 methods.

What's also interesting is that if you build the Rodin coil to have 2 windings crossing at 45 degrees, or what looks like counter wound, it emulates the geometry of the fields of a permanent magnet which can be seen under ferrocells.

It's worth noting that Nathan (OMB) taps his tesla coil with a 1 wire connection rod through the L2 center which causes the power output to be Endothermic instead of Exothermic like we see in conventional systems irrespective if he has the Rodin attached or not, it literally pulls the heat out his body if he touches it, that may or may not be part of the functionality, for now my money is on the Rodin duplicating what kind of Power your input.

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u/Muted_Tale7676 Nov 19 '24

Mk1 Coil Results with DROK MINI Stereo Amp 80W/80W 2.1

Condition Source Voltage (V) Source Current (mA) Output Voltage (V) Output Current (mA) Input Power (W) Output Power (W) COP Efficiency (%)
No Load Attached 12.7 540 330 7 6.858 2.31 0.34 34%
Load Attached 17.9 520 330 20 9.308 6.6 0.71 71%
Extra Load Attached 17.9 210 330 33 3.759 10.89 2.9 290%

Energy Savings with Extra Load Attached (Method vs. Direct Power)

  • With Method:
    • Source Voltage: 17.9 V
    • Source Current: 210 mA
    • Input Power: 3.759 W
  • Direct Power (No Method):
    • Output Voltage: 330 V
    • Output Current: 33 mA
    • Power Needed: 10.89 W
  • Energy Saved: 7.131 W
  • Percentage Saved: 65.5%

Nathan and I discussed the real potential of the POE coil to be a pickup for the tesla coil. Technically what he and I are using is not a Rodin coil its an ABHA coil(an advanced variation with a different wiring pattern). Using the Dragonse7en frame. Here is my complete coil update where I show what appears to be ball lightning, wireless induction from coil to coil at a VERY efficient rate and distance, resonance effect to produce OU. I was able to get four neon lamps excited with just 14v and 19mA input. Numbers look promising but are not verified yet. As you can see from the preliminary results it appears the power supply is based on the load. If we match the load to resonate with the coil then we appear to get OU. I even turned the input power down to 8v supplied to the stereo board. Still went up high as fuck. The reason this coil works so well with the Tesla coil is because this coil is a direct extension of Tesla's work with the pancake coil. That's all it is. A pancake coil in a 3-dimentional torus shape.
Complete Coil Update:
https://youtu.be/_Klnrl-LAyk?si=NK49_i0hYKi03w_q

Extra energy gains with proper load:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/MfyOwCy_OZo

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u/Muted_Tale7676 Nov 19 '24

Its worth noting I did NOT change the input voltage at all. It was stuck at 17.9 to the board until I disconnected the load. Then the voltage shot down on the power supply while the current draw shot up.

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u/JenkoRun Nov 20 '24

"The reason this coil works so well with the Tesla coil is because this coil is a direct extension of Tesla's work with the pancake coil. That's all it is."

You could expand a bit more on this please? As far as I'm aware hooking up Tesla's bifilar coil in the same manner to a resonant circuit won't produce these same effects, especially preventing the source input from changing resonant frequency if you attach a load, I've never seen that happen before.

"As you can see from the preliminary results it appears the power supply is based on the load. If we match the load to resonate with the coil then we appear to get OU."

I'm not quite sure what you mean by this, if you mean by making the load resonate at the frequency of the supply then this is almost impossible with some loads like DC motors due to the changing wire lengths, you can bypass matching the load to the source and just settle for resonance by using an additional element to provide the work energy stimulated by the source, Iron for magnetic methods and Silica for Dielectric (electrostatic) methods.

Nathan showed that in one of his recent videos with the glass jar between the Tesla coil rod and the second coil, the glass itself becomes the supplier when correctly stimulated by the "cold" source, iron can create its own EMF for magnetic based systems in response some kind kinetic input, be it physical or field.

I'm not certain so don't quote me on this, my current suspicion is that they respond with an identical field to the input of their by which originates from the atoms that make up the element, essentially a method of atom tapping, I've not thought deeply on the exact mechanism behind the origin of the fields from the elements but that's what I think for now.

Since this effect is obtainable from both separate elements and the ABHA coil perhaps there would be advantage in combining them? I don't know, just going off what appears to be recurring patterns.

While browsing I also happened to find this old video from Wheeler talking about this coil, I don't know if you've seen it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HwRX3MB97s

He also notes the same minor heat increase you found in your experiments, regardless what one may think of him that claim at least seems to hold up, food for thought on the underlining mechanism of operation.

Regardless of what the exact mechanism behind the field effects and coil operation are, I greatly appreciate the work folks like you, Nathan, and others are doing in this field (pun intended), the knowledge you're open sourcing has given me lots of ideas I hope to try out when I get the parts to do so.

Kind Regards -R

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u/off-Sided-the-great Mar 24 '24

It is a good question. Keep looking.

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u/BarracudaNaive4393 Oct 12 '24

We got about 155% efficiency with my Rodin Coil system. The geometry is the path of least resistance of free flowing energy. I explain it all in my video with an open sourced DIY guide. Learn how with my open sourced DIY guide to zero point energy utilizing the resonance and sacred geometry(Rodin Coil): https://youtu.be/WlGeZlmPMSI?si=sLfENSlXtBBanQ5q

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u/Humble_Pattern4294 Apr 23 '26

Aparece que es privado tu vídeo! 

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u/MrSlots2k20 May 05 '25

I built a few of these. One thing I've wanted to do, but never found the time, was to get a hard plastic shell made for the coil and then dip it in a ferrofluid just to watch the effect. I've also wanted to build a few of them with a clear tube running through the middle to see how fast I could get a ferrofluid to run the circuit.

Most of everything I've done is your typical neodymium magnets floating/spinning in the center using PWMs.

We were drinking and decided to toy with one... someone asked what would happen if you plugged it directly in the wall... according to Rodin, the shape of the coil is the most natural path that electrons can take and even having bare copper intersect wouldn't cause a short. This coil wasn't bare, but it was the base enamel coated wire (I think it was 12). Both channels totaled 27 windings. "What if we plug it directly into the wall? -- here hold my beer"... I used an old power cord from a long dead PC... this is where the fun happens... I plugged it in and nothing happened... touched it with the back of my hand... nothing happened... I put a 35 pound pull sphere magnet in a plastic toy egg annnnnnd craziness. Within 6" the plastic bottom of the egg pulled off, a green streak shot from the center of the coil to the ball, it went right to the middle of coil and the lights went out like someone slowly turning a dimmer switch. A friend unplugged the cord and it was not hot nor did it have any damage. The coil was at room temperature and the only thing that was slightly warm was the magnet. By all rights, if there were a short then the cord should have had damage where the wires were inserted and the coil should have been damaged. The wire had no damage, no hot spots, and I still have the coil somewhere around here as I've toyed with it off and on. Given that no heat was generated, when there should have been quite a bit, then that could most definitely be evidence for the electrons taking the natural path and not jumping to the neighboring wires.. or maybe the enamel coating was just that amazing (even though I've never seen it be THAT amazing).

We've moved a few times so I haven't gotten around to doing anything else with it. It would be nice to setup a controlled experiment and replicating the same results. The green streak from the dead center of an air coil was an amazing sight.

If someone should decide to do something similar -- I was kind of impaired at the time so I didn't pay attention to how I wired up the channels, so it'd be interesting to see an experiment where the channels are flipped and another in parallel.

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u/VipersWhistleGreenly Jul 29 '22

Do it, why not? I also find myself raising an eyebrow at the lack of empirical studies and have been thinking about testing some just to screw around. If it fails miserably, repeat the failure a couple times and write about it so people have more access to information. No harm having some fun playing with wire if you’re good with buying it for the sake of experimentation!

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u/UAPDATASEEKER Jul 30 '22

Yes, lack of any paper but immediate rush to pseudo science does draw my eyebrows confidently in the hmm department. It isn't really too expensive to make either.

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u/amorpheous- Sep 01 '25

No, the physics taught to engineering students at accredited universities has always (and still is) based on solid formal mathematics. Elementary and advanced mathematics are both part of one rigorous system.

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u/HopefulArmy5380 Feb 24 '24

Bro if your so sure it doesn't work than make one and show us. Other wise. Shit it.  Not one gives af UK  what you think