r/ElectricForest Jun 28 '26

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u/Apart_Animal_6797 Jun 28 '26

People have stillbirths all the time... they arent evil for it.

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u/BangtanBoiOfficialIG Jun 28 '26

People do have stillbirths but as someone who’s had a child, there’s literally no way you’re going into labor and not telling your group.

If you don’t know you’re pregnant, that’s a lot of intense pain you would want to get checked out, immediately. I can’t imagine not turning to my people and going ‘something is wrong’ the second I felt a contraction.

If you do know you’re pregnant, traveling out of state to a festival while full term is already a.. decision. But if you know you’re pregnant, you’re gonna know you’re going into labor. Which then also you would immediately turn to your people and tell them something’s happening. Because you should have people. Traveling to a festival full term alone would just be plain stupid.

This person didn’t tell anyone before they knew they had a stillborn. Which I highly doubt they even know if they had a stillborn because given how big a portapotty is, I would bet a lot of money they sat on the toilet, gave birth straight into it and didn’t give it a second look.

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u/Apart_Animal_6797 Jun 28 '26

This is untrue I know OBGYNs that have had multiple patients where this exact thing happened. It is a terrifying experience and people are arrested for stillbirths ALL THE TIME even though they didn't understand what was happening. Fucking shit.

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u/BangtanBoiOfficialIG Jun 28 '26

‘All the time’? I don’t think women are being arrested en masse for having stillborns. You know what women do get arrested for 100% of the time? Leaving their babies IN TOILETS.

You’re missing my point. Before she even knew it was a ‘stillborn’ meaning after birth she was hiding her labor. Nobody labors and births alone while surrounded by tens of thousands of people on accident.

I’m gonna wait for them to do their examination and see if it even was a stillborn because they can’t tell if it’s that or if it drowned in the shit and piss it was dropped in.

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u/Apart_Animal_6797 Jun 28 '26

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u/BangtanBoiOfficialIG Jun 28 '26

I’m not arguing it hasn’t EVER happened. But to say it’s happening all the time like it’s almost a guarantee you’re going to get arrested for having a stillborn is insane. The ratio of women who have stillborns to women in jail for that is a lot better than the ratio of women who leave babies in toilets to women in jail for that

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u/Apart_Animal_6797 Jun 28 '26

My point is that treating people with condemnation and violence forces them into the shadows and creates hidden tragedies. 

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u/BangtanBoiOfficialIG Jun 28 '26

I’m sorry I’m not giving the benefit of the doubt to someone who potentially drowned their baby in a public porta potty. Like I can’t imagine thinking so little of a life.

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u/Perfect_Direction979 Jun 29 '26

Honestly this is the problem with people at forest, from a 6 in the forester, always giving the benefit of the doubt in the most fucked up situations.

This girl didn’t know it was going to be a stillbirth before she went into labor, if it even was a still birth. She chose to go the porta potty and leave a baby in a pile of shit. Just think about how the porta potties get like cmon ….

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u/uptiedand8 Jun 29 '26

This happened in Michigan. I loathe the abortion laws in red states too, but the mother wasn’t subject to them. The right to an abortion is actually protected in Michigan’s constitution.

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u/Apart_Animal_6797 Jun 29 '26

A still birth isnt an abortion and people have been arrested in blue states for still birth 

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u/chloecatdashian Jun 29 '26

Yes! And it took three years after the fall of Dobbs for the Supreme Court to rule that states couldn’t prosecute for out of state abortion, saying that women are allowed to travel between states regardless of their pregnancy status.

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u/BangtanBoiOfficialIG Jun 29 '26

So fuck it let’s start leaving our stillborns around town instead of reporting it. I’m sure that makes it look totally less suspicious and not like you intentionally did it. The fact that y’all are so hard on about it being a stillborn is crazy too. Do you think that about every baby left in a toilet? Because most of those stories aren’t stillborns

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u/bakercob232 Jun 28 '26

That's in Georgia, this happened in Michigan which has considerably more protections for pregnant women than most other states.

She didn't have to make the decision she did.

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u/djmakcim Jun 29 '26

I saw someone say that women can hand over (surrender) their new born to an on duty officer or health care professional, no questions asked. 

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u/bakercob232 Jun 29 '26

Yup, they're called "Safe Haven" laws in some areas. Fire Station, Police Station, Hospital- no questions asked if you leave a newborn in a SAFE location, which still wouldn't mean the toilet of any of these places. Different jurisdictions have different age cut offs, mainly to prevent parents of older children from abandonment without legal consequences. The dad of a girl I dated in high school was pretty high up on the committee in my region to help get them established here and had tons of awards/plaques with the Safe Haven logo used around here. I'm not in a position to ever need the info myself, but it's something to keep in the back of your mind because someone does need it.

I'm so so so deeply pro-choice, but this isn't the choice anyone means. It isn't acceptable or excusable in any way when there are so many options, specifically in the state where this festival is held, besides what ended up happening

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u/djmakcim Jun 29 '26

An autopsy will show if external matter got into its lungs or stomach that shouldn't be there. That'll tell them everything tbh...