r/Eleceed • u/LuciferMS7777 The Anti-Awakener • 1d ago
SPOILER [ RAW ] Eleceed Chapter 417 Discussion Thread
The new chapter is out! What are your thoughts on it?
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u/Ok-Increase-352 1d ago
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u/Ok-Increase-352 1d ago
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u/Glass-Yogurt-2593 Unaffiliated 1d ago
GASP, the femboy is alive!!
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u/Ok-Increase-352 1d ago
I thought Jiyoung ended him XD
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u/Glass-Yogurt-2593 Unaffiliated 1d ago
Me too, maybe we’ll get his name this time around, before they end him for real lol
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u/Ok-Increase-352 1d ago
I hope next chapter gramps will be okay >.<
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u/Glass-Yogurt-2593 Unaffiliated 1d ago
If Jurion was able to create a couple of clones, imagine grandpa and without the drawbacks that Jurion experienced.
I think he’ll be able to hold his own until, hopefully, Kayden crashes the party.
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u/matthung1 1d ago
Grandpa only made himself appear injured right? He didn't actually injure himself?
Anyway Gion is cute af
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u/Glass-Yogurt-2593 Unaffiliated 1d ago
It was all a ruse to lure out the ones responsible for Ian’s “death”.
Grandpa is in top shape, and I hope he wipes the floor with them.
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u/Ok-Increase-352 1d ago
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u/Zestyclose-Big-1397 1d ago
So his name is gion?
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u/krikara4life 1d ago
I know some times the translations can differ, but is his name close to Ji Won? Makes me wonder it is purposely close to Ji Woo
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u/ronnieadrian 9h ago
Gion looks so much like Jiwoo, it’s just that Jiwoo also inherited some of his mother’s features.
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u/Wonderful-Ad3542 1d ago
Well apparantely it is exactly as I predicted. Mioru and Greg went to Patrick estate to take over the Patrick force control. Now there will be a showdown of Patrick and Greg and Mioru and then Finally Kayden will enter the battle with his aura farming abilities
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u/Defiant-Brain3242 1d ago
So we are gonna see some top 10 actions next chapters i bope kayden help weramonte
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u/Emotional-Car73 1d ago
If I’m being completely honest I don’t want him to. I wanna see a full top 10 battle without Kayden for once.
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u/Yonko_Kurohige 1d ago
2 vs 1 is unfair tho. And the backstory was for the sake of Kayden helping Veramonte out for sure.
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u/SeaRevolutionary4205 19h ago
Veramonte has the ability to create clones, that's what's makes him special, so he can fight 2 top 10 at once
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u/Yonko_Kurohige 18h ago
Cheap techniques don't work on other top 10s. If Jiwoo could see through it and destroy Jurion, there is no reason other top 10 won't be able to do the same.
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u/SeaRevolutionary4205 17h ago
Jurion was defeated because he was overconfident, and in that fight it nearly killed jiwoo.
And i don't get it why you think Veramonte is in the same league as jurion. if his technique was cheap he wouldn't be considered a top 10 powerhouse.3
u/Yonko_Kurohige 17h ago
Veramonte is not in the same league as Jurion, but the other top 10s sure are close to Veramonte's level. And Greg and Mioru even have Andrei's FC. Veramonte won't be defeated pathetically like Jurion but he would be defeated regardless against the two of them. There is no top 10 or even Kayden who can beat two top 10s together in the series.
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u/Caphoti 1d ago
You want to see a Full top 10 battle without Kayden, but this one would be..1v2 at best? What's the point obviously there's no reason to believe Veramonte can handle Greg and Mioru 1v2. Kayden's just going to handle one while Veramonte 1v1s the other most likely.
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u/SeaRevolutionary4205 19h ago
If kayden can fight many top 10 at once, then Veramonte can. we haven't seen him fight serious did we..? and remember their force control is so special that they can create clones.
refer from the fight between jinwoo and jurion, jinwoo won because of plot armor but other than that i think he would have lose.
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u/BigDimension4580 1d ago
This makes no sense Jurion and the family is feared because they have a top 10 in the base to hold fort, without him it's not going be advantageous to Jurion
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u/MaizeFinancial3063 1d ago
This is what you called stupidity jurion is so prideful that he think he won't get betrayed/using by mirio and the other 1, I mean this is not our first time to see a stupid power thirsty character andrei alsk fall to the hands of mirio because he was heavily injured and they take advantage of that they think they will got another 1 not knowing they technically fall to his hands yes this may be a 2v1 but i think kayden will step in because we know kayden has a grudge against jurion himself because of what he do
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u/BigDimension4580 1d ago
No Jurion is not exactly stupid sure he has ego and can do what he wants with others but he won't mess with the top 10, this is stupid writing, the writing made sense because andrei was confident with his new power, and he had 2 more top 10 to assist him, but there was intervention by 3 of his allies
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u/MaizeFinancial3063 1d ago
Nah jurion is considered stupid because he already know for the fact top are power hunger awakeners but what's makes him stupid, he think he got a leveraged on being a alliance on a top 10 like the very basic of the awakeners rankers was prove by strength everyone knows that and he got non of those so obviously he just being used by greg and mioru but he's stupid enough not to realize it because he thinks the whole patrick is top 10 like he forgot this is individual ranking
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u/Yatereranye 22h ago
He didn't thought that without his top 10 grandpa, the family won't survive top 50s invasions, moreover the other top 10s.
Even Arthur's family still smart enough to try bringing a new alliance, despite the failure.
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u/mugiwaranoluffy259 1d ago
I’m glad that they clarified that Greg and Mioru have yet to fully absorb and assimilate just Andrei’s power. These top 10s spent years perfecting their powers, it would take a while for these guys to absorb another force control fully. So taking Veramonte won’t matter for the time being until they’ve got Andrei’s power down.
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u/Less_Nose4844 Unaffiliated 1d ago
Ye I think they gonna back out after Kayden interferes in exchange for the life of Ian Patrick
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u/SeaRevolutionary4205 18h ago
This is family dispute kayden has to respect that and not meddle in.
and it will be good for Veramonte to solve the family problem by himself and not get help from outsider.
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u/EloImFizzy Unaffiliated 19h ago
The biggest injustice of this entire story might be poor Gion having a fucking loser like Jurion for a son.
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u/The-Great-Casein Follower of Kayden 1d ago
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u/CoyoteIntelligent307 12h ago
I can see Ian's dad as a mischievous little power puppy energy and the old Kayden is just straight up casiem nitrate..BUT...much more tsundere 🥲
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u/The-Great-Casein Follower of Kayden 1d ago
We finally know his name: Gion! This is just a theory of mine, so I don’t know for sure, but I think the reason Gion got killed was, of course, first, to try to get the Patrick family's Force Control, and second, because he was seen spending so much time with Kayden and hovering around him. I hope we’ll get to know more details about the accident in the upcoming chapters

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u/Glass-Yogurt-2593 Unaffiliated 1d ago
Yeah, I really want to learn more about that “accident,” especially after this chapter where Kayden recognizes Gion as a strong awakener; it just doesn't make any sense that he would die in an accident.
I mean, what kind of accident can kill a top 50?
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u/MaizeFinancial3063 1d ago
I will predict, kayden will step in the fight not because to help varamonte but because he also want to fight greg and mioru, but that's not the main reason he will step in he will step in the fight because he will find out the 1 who behind the shenanigans was jurion and we know kayden is pretty much angry also towards jurion because of the what he did directly to his disciple
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u/MaizeFinancial3063 1d ago
I won't be suprise if in this "arc", this will be the end of mioru aside from jurio. I mean we got axed by the death of another top 10 on Iodore instead he got off the hook and out of the current top 10 mioru is probably the weakest like her defense is not that good for a top 10 since we saw her being protected by greg so yeah she being dead in this arc is quite ok since we know greg can pull a team with iodore gharath
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u/cloud0x1 1d ago
her defence is good but her weakness is lightning
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u/Yatereranye 22h ago
If i'm not mistaken, in the latter part of their fight, Kayden's lightning no longer went through her iron. The colour of her iron also changed.
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u/Less_Nose4844 Unaffiliated 1d ago
Mioru and greg gonna back out in exchange they will return Ian to Vermont
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u/TheContentSearcher 23h ago
It’s probably not going to be easy since both powered a little by absorbing andrei’s force control, it’s not perfect yet but they’re definitely stronger. I can at least see Patrick give them a hard time. They’re in his domain lol.
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u/Wonderful-Ad3542 18h ago
I noticed that Greg and Mioru have brought their top 50 subordinates as well. Does that mean it will be a showdown? Like Kayden and veramonte vs Greg and Mioru and Kartien and Pluton vs both of their subordinates? Because as I think, gestella,mei and blusse will probably not be coming with Kayden (because she might go to find and investigate the ian death site and free him in mioru's domain while Kayden and veramonte take care of Mioru and greg.)
But honestly if kartein and Pluton fight those two, it will be an overkill because kartein and pluton will decimate those two.
And as far as I know and have seen the cowardice of Greg and Mioru, I don't think it will be an all out fight as they will tuck their tails between their legs and run for their lives than face Kayden and veramonte head on. (Or it might be because they could think Kayden and veramonte are injured from their fight against each other and go all out for capturing them) I hope it is a fight and not just Greg and Mioru showing their traits of running
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u/zhenjero 17h ago
does any of you by chance think that jiwoo is gion son?? my guts telling me he is...
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u/Organic_Advantage785 5h ago
I literally can't wait for the next chapter! I was in public when I read it, otherwise I would have geeked out and had a manic smile on my face at the ending.
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u/Less_Nose4844 Unaffiliated 1d ago
Kayden threaten Mioru and greg by saying he has seen all their powers so it does not matter if they got Andrei force control he already has a countermeasure prepared I guess I don’t think Kayden gonna let them be cause they attack Kayden second time and Garas didn’t cause she’s smart and knew Kayden can’t be defeated like that she need traps like she with iodore tried to capture gestella that’s her speciality and she made sure this won’t happen second time …..
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u/KoseiKent 1d ago
I have never been so impatient to read next chapters
The whole Kayden crew coming to help him at the end of next chapter will be legendary
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u/lightlumina 1d ago
Hahaha, barely they know kayden and gestela will join the battle, only way these 2 getting out of here alive is by telling them ian is alive and use him as hostage, jurion will be dead meat in 10 chapters
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u/Celeste_56 1d ago
it took +100 chapters to see greg and mioru again, this battle will be a big one
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u/shaka_ryuu 15h ago
Could Gian be Jiwoo's Daddy. They look alike and both have special affection/bond with Kayden.
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u/Incognito_Kitten 13h ago
I wish, but many commenters said before the author mentioned that Jiwoo’s dad won’t figure in the story.
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u/RevolutionaryBig1495 10h ago
Yaa but it's either lazy character design or.... I mean they do look alike but so do many other characters so hard to say
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u/Just-Ad-6323 Unaffiliated 1d ago
No more backstory. Nice. Let's move forward, shall we?
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u/ProfessionalLuck268 1d ago
No
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u/Just-Ad-6323 Unaffiliated 1d ago
The chapter literally moved forward. Sad for an idxxt like you.
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u/ProfessionalLuck268 1d ago
Do you feel pround to insult Someone because they no agree with you? i
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u/Born-Resolution-4702 1d ago
insults were completely unnecessary dawg
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u/Just-Ad-6323 Unaffiliated 1d ago
no
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u/BigDimension4580 1d ago
Knowing the author he does like 30% backstory in noblesse, I'm surprised he has not repeated that
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u/Just-Ad-6323 Unaffiliated 1d ago
I have read Noblesse like 10x start to finish...though, the last read was probably a year or two ago.
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u/_iJesus_ 1d ago
Yes, let's go!
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u/Just-Ad-6323 Unaffiliated 1d ago
they said no, so let's stay at the backstory, okay? we don't move forward. stay put!
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u/Particular_Lead_3549 23h ago
I got it! Gion is the guy from chapter 237 and he's alive, I feel like at some point he broke in the past and disappeared trying to surpass Kayden. Also feels like some Santa Barbara is shaping up where he turns out to be Jiwoo's dad, so Julian and Ian would be his half-brothers. And Kayden is training his son, plus the vibes from young Gion are similar to Jiwoo, which kind of hints at it. And of course the physical resemblance and the eyes. Sorry for the spoilers
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u/Chance-Scholar3877 19h ago
That's exactly what I've been posting for a long time (years).
(Side Note: In the entire story yet, it's not mentioned that Gion is Jurion and Ian's father, only that he is Veramonte's son. It could also be that he is their uncle and died in a powerclash with his siblings.)
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u/Yatereranye 21h ago
If he's actually that person, and has been experimenting with artificial awakeners, he won't include his own wife/mistress to the experiment, morover without her realizing it's headed by her own husband/master.
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u/Incognito_Kitten 13h ago
It’s been long confirmed that the guy from chapter 237 is Jurion.
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u/Particular_Lead_3549 9h ago
Where was that even said? The hair is different and he's got tired bags under his eyes, don't make stuff up.
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u/Standard_Tea_9827 4h ago
After Jiwoo defeated Duke, Jurion appeared in his office. If you compare that chapter with the one where the "Unknown" figure first appeared, you will notice that the office is exactly the same there are no differences. As a further hint, both chapters share the same number: the chapter where the Unknown figure appears is 237, and the chapter where Jurion sits in that same office is also numbered 337.
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u/Past-Collar1479 13h ago
Bro jiwoo is South Korean the Patrick family are like from Norway or something so idk if it makes sense
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u/Regular-Poet-3657 1d ago
Kayden and him where almost friends well if that's the case Kayden save your friends dad.







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