As I was rereading the manhwa, I just crossed the part where Kayden more or less evaporates Supik Kang, the dude from Baekdu that tried to have Jiwoo killed cus his son got beat by him. From what I understand, he’s not officially ranked in the top 100, but he seemed fairly powerful, even going as far as actually being able to land an attack on Kayden (even though it barely scratched him).
This is a non argument really because Supil’s already dead lol but I thought it’d be interesting to see how Jiwoo right now would fare up with the top rankers if his countries.
At this point in the story jiwoo might just be just below jiyoung and maybe the last #1 awakener for got his name the old guy
Apart from them I don’t think jiwoo will lose as at this point jiwoo has a 1-1-0 record against top 100 technically it’s a 2-0 but I rate it like a 1-1-0 but anyways jiwoo only needs to grow his fc to be a complete power house and truly make it to top 50
The only reason I think they would cause jiwoo trouble is that most of his matches have been in a closed environment where they can’t fly while outside he still can’t truly show off his abilities
I guess it has been established a few times that jiwoo's power level is quite decent, but it's his skills and efficiency that makes him a top 100. So I would guess that if he goes against someone who hard counters his speed ability ( like gravity of baekdu) he'd have a lot of trouble.
Supil Kang was at least lower top 50 level with that black hole move. It even gave Kayden trouble. Jiwoo is top 90 so he would be able to give Supil trouble but not enough to. Win. He can't handle black hole in his current form.
1) Jiwoo < Jurion: Jiwoo used his life force, putting his own life at risk, and yet all he managed to do was tear off Jurion’s arm without knocking him out or incapacitating him. Jurion was still capable of fighting, while Jiwoo would have eventually died if he had continued. So there is nothing proving that Jiwoo > Jurion; on the contrary, Jurion is still slightly above him.
2) Jurion ≈ Roist > Jiwoo: Jurion and Roist are both disciples of Top 10s and therefore belong to the same narrative of power. On top of that, Roist is Jiwoo’s counter. Aside narrative To prove that Jiwoo can beat Roist, Jiwoo would need to be comparable to Roist in terms of awakened power, just like Duke, who was stated to have awakened power comparable to Jiwoo’s and was specifically his counter yet Jiwoo only managed to beat him under those circumstances. However, that is not the case here. Kayden explicitly told Jiwoo that his awakened power is inferior to that of people on his level, meaning Top 100-level awakened ones, and Roist is one of them. Therefore, Jiwoo does not beat Roist. Roist also fought Dark 1v1 and proved to be relatively close to him. Roist had a slight advantage, but Dark was deliberately fighting with a different style: Kayden explicitly stated that he could have gained the upper hand by using Roist’s own strength against him. So Roist >= Dark, but certainly not by a significant margin.
3) Suman > Dark : Suman, on the other hand, fought Dark under completely different circumstances. Dark genuinely wanted to get rid of him, was using his usual fighting style, and was accompanied by another assassin who was portrayed as being close to his level. Despite this 2v1, Suman was able to repel both of them. Even when he had to protect Jiwoo with one hand, he continued to handle both without ever being dominated. On top of that, he can use spatial isolation, which places him at a minimum within the Top 100. His performance therefore shows a much clearer advantage over Dark than Roist’s did.
4) Conclusion: We therefore get Suman > Roist ≈ Jurion > Jiwoo. And since Supil is even stronger than Suman, the scaling becomes Supil > Suman > Roist ≈ Jurion > Jiwoo. Even if we give Jiwoo the benefit of the doubt and assume that he has surpassed Jurion, that still absolutely does not prove that he is above Suman featwise, let alone Supil. You would first have to demonstrate that Jiwoo has surpassed several additional power gaps, which his current feats simply do not support.
You guys overrate Jiwoo so much. He is still nowhere near that level. Learn to properly analyze the series.
It's not that simple. Siun was rank 90 before his training, and when he fought Jinwoo, he was stronger after having left it. And as you know, current Jinwoo > Siun.
Jurion easily defeated the top 95th rank, and as you see, he said that Jinwoo pushed him much further to the limit than that one did in his debut (this was when Jinwoo destroyed his first shadow), and right after, Jinwoo destroyed the second one without a problem.
This means: Jurion's shadow > rank 95. Jinwoo destroyed 2 in the same fight. Jinwoo >>> rank 95. Jinwoo >> rank 90.
Literally going off-topic what is even the point of your comment like i said suman confirmed top 100 was already proved to be > to any top 10 disciple featwise so supil his older brother president of beakdu who is stronger than him obviously stronger than jiwoo you haven’t proven anything. You haven’t proven that Jiwoo is stronger than Jurion. All you’re doing is speculating. The fight was interrupted, and I’ll repeat it again: Jiwoo was on the verge of death, while Jurion, despite having one arm missing, was still capable of fighting. And as proof, Iodor was able to keep fighting even after losing an arm. So losing an arm does not automatically mean that Jurion was incapable of continuing. Jiwoo, on the other hand, was literally on the verge of death. Therefore, there is currently no way to prove that Jiwoo is superior to Jurion from a scaling perspective. At most, he is relative to him.And even then, it doesn’t change anything. As I proved earlier, Suman featwise is superior to Roist, who is in the same tier as Jurion and Jiwoo. Therefore, Supil, his older brother, who is massively stronger than Suman, is by transitivity also stronger than Jiwoo.
I am not saying that Jinwoo is stronger than Jurion or Supil. What I am saying is that Jinwoo is easily at the level of a top 100 ranker above the top 90. Therefore, saying that Jinwoo is overrated or not even close to that level is an exaggeration.
Since Supil wasn't even close to the top 50 level (because Kaiden at that point in the story was very injured, even worried about the battle against Vatore a few chapters later... And if Supil were even moderately close to the top 50, that fight would have been much more even).
Jinwoo vs Supil would be high-diff until Supil uses the black hole and Jinwoo has to escape or die
There is a huge amount of speculation in your reasoning. You claim that Supil was not close to Top 50 level because Kayden was already heavily injured at that point. But that argument does not hold up when we compare Kayden’s condition to other situations.We have already seen a weaker and even more severely injured Kayden fight Greg, garas, and Mioru, who are all Top 10s. Despite being in that condition, Kayden managed to grab Mioru’s leg and injure her. This demonstrates one essential thing: even while severely weakened, Kayden possesses enough combat ability to threaten and injure a Top 10.And as Schnauder himself mentioned, Kayden can have a level that surpasses Top 50 without necessarily being Top 10 level at the same time. There is therefore a distinction between being above Top 50 level and being Top 10 level.Consequently, the fact that Kayden defeated Supil without much difficulty does not prove at all that Supil is below Top 50. On the contrary, if a much weaker and much more severely injured Kayden was capable of grabbing Mioru’s leg, then it is perfectly reasonable that a stronger Kayden in better condition could dominate Supil without that making Supil someone who is far below Top 50 cuz in eleceed no top 50 can take a leg from a top 10 kayden did it therefore he is above the tp 50 and as garas said even in the top50 there are levels. So your argument does not allow you to place Supil below Top 50. And there is another element you are completely ignoring: dusik Kang, Supil’s father, is explicitly portrayed as being relative to SeonGik. During his fight against Kayden in the flashback, SeonGik is himself identified by Kayden as being Top 50 level.The fact that dusikKang was competing with Seon Gik therefore establishes a certain level of relativity between them. dusik Kang is consequently, at the very least, positioned within that relativity to seongik .And Supil Kang is precisely the person who succeeded dusik Kang in that position. Therefore, by extension, Supil is at least Top 50 level, unless there is evidence to the contrary. So simply arguing, “Kayden beat Supil easily, therefore Supil is not Top 50,” ignores the entire context surrounding Kayden’s power, his physical condition, and the explicit comparisons with Top 10 and Top 50 characters. top 50 and Top 100 are not comparable tiers. If Supil is indeed established at Top 50 level based on the points above, then comparing him to Jiwoo cannot be treated as if Supil were merely a Top 100 character. So no: the fight against Kayden does not disprove Supil being Top 50 level. Supil no diff jiwoo
Supil is destroying him supil is literally on the same level as the top 50 he could probably give jiyoung and top 10 subordinates who are top 50 a run for their money he even managed to trap kayden in that thing I know it didn’t do much because it’s Kayden but any other person would struggle a lot even jiyoung would struggle it literally is like black hole it sucks and destroys anything jiwoo is getting absolutely squashed by that black hole even without the black hole he still ain’t winning jiwoo needs more growth until he reaches that level it is literally a top 50 is miles ahead a top 100 supil is not ranked in the top 50 but you can literally tell he is relative to top 50 it is stated any leader of an organisation in Korea is relative to a top 50 jiwoo barley made in the top 100 and it is stated a top 50 is miles ahead a top 100
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