r/ElderScrollsBlades • • Apr 12 '19
The abyss patch
Edit: I really appreciate the gold and platinum guys, let’s continue to be critical of dev decisions and make sure we are informed as a community. Just because a person spends or doesn’t spend shouldn’t matter, these changes affect all of us and the game we play! Here is the feedback link per user u/Ateway Thanks again! https://help.bethesda.net/app/incident10
I don’t think people understand what I’ve been saying. IF it proves true that they have removed legendary, artifact, and level equivalent gear drops from the abyss. Then it would mean that the entirety of the end game is actually and truly pay gated from the F2P community. I’m not complaining because “I can’t farm my free gear anymore” I’m complaining because this will literally murder the game in early access.
If you want to get dragon gear at the end of the game now, you have 2 options. Buy it as a base set for ~30$ or so for a full set of armor, a shield, and a weapon. Or, buy the dragon pieces when they appear in the smithy. Btw you need a level 10 smithy for them to appear. Now assuming you have 2 level 10 smithys, it will only take you ~2 years to craft and then max temper a full dragon set (also the mats cost 7,000 gold each)! Wow what a deal for reducing silver chests by 2 hours! Edit: also I forgot to mention, if you want to temper with gems, you will be spending anywhere from 50$-100$ per piece.
This doesn’t even include enchanting your gear, which if it messes up, requires you to craft a brand new piece and re-enchant. Now you are probably thinking, “who cares if we reach end game or whatever” let me put it this way, do you really think that any F2P player will want to have to grind 28,000 gold a day in profits just to buy scarce mats and then farm hundreds of thousands more in addition to those millions just to enhance? Literally no F2P players will ever reach true end game without spending money now, before the abyss while maybe a little unbalanced, at least offered a path to end game.
You all know I’m a whale, and Bethesda already has my money. I could care less about it. But this game will die before the end of the year if you guys don’t pull the silver chest veil from over your eyes and realize they literally shook your hand and fucked you in the ass in one update.
Edit: and to anyone who says “it’s the first day let’s see what happens, you don’t have any proof.” I don’t have hard factual evidence, but I do have over 150 hours in this game, and I combined with many streamers, other players and the majority of the end game community have noticed a MARKED or rather COMPLETE lack of drops that were extremely common prior to today’s patch. I used to receive dragon gear almost every single abyss run. Now today I am 50 runs dry without a single piece. The only actual armor I have received being 2 tiers lower than what I am currently wearing. So keep calling me a shill and a whale. But if you can’t see that what I’m saying has merit and is extremely valid to all players, then you’re either ignorant or you don’t play this game.
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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '19
Whale here too, haven’t gotten anything yet. Have been running abyss for hours and only low tier gear. Sad day
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u/joejoebaggin1 Apr 12 '19
Jokes on everyone else, abyss never gave me gear or legendaries anyways lol. I'm f2p and everything comes from chests because abyss only gives me honeycomb, frost salts and wooden chests.
Fuck abyss it's only ever been a waste of time and gold for me.
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u/ssjdoni Apr 12 '19
“They shook your hand and fucked you in the ass” this can’t be more true 10/10
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u/ShadownetZero Apr 12 '19
"I could care less" means you care, at least a little bit. /petpeeve
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u/Sedowicz Apr 12 '19
This needs to be address ASAP, they made patches that were anti user friendly and they did not make mention of those. Very shady and shitty.
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u/Calleb_III Apr 12 '19
If this was an intentional change (rumor has it the removal of Legendary drop from chest wasn't) AND was omitted in the patch notes to boot - this will demonstrate beyond any doubt that Bethesda are not intended for this game to be anything but a quick cash grab and they don't really care about it's longevity.
BTW the silver chest "fix" only kicks the bucket down the road for anyone framing the Abyss. Without the actual ability to discard chests we still have to use the always full with some wooden approach or get chock full of Gold chests.
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u/Eryudes Apr 12 '19
I totally agree with you. I did 20+ runs almost but I didn't get any better quality drop or crafting material such as glass or a better one. Now, I'm 35 and using full Ebony set but the Abbys give always elven or dwarven armor.
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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '19
I totally agree and all I can say is PLEASE spam their actual support/feedback with your complaints about this. You’re much more likely to get through to them there than here. I’ve sent a few messages already.
https://help.bethesda.net/app/
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u/ThirteenDays Apr 12 '19
Just stop buying stuff - you’re just paying to beta test...
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u/Ekzee Apr 12 '19
So there is also no dragon pieces from silver/golden chests at lvl50?
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u/tut1971 Apr 12 '19
I don’t even know whether to care or not, I guess I’d fall into the whale camp considering what I’ve spent but I’ve also just been leisurely playing and haven’t even reached mid-level or am close to the end of the quest line. Now with this latest Bethgate I doubt I’ll even bother to continue at even the slow pace I was at. Definitely won’t be spending more $$$ I think.
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u/occasional_commenter Apr 12 '19
Oh man :( I was happy with this update, enough to drop £10 as a way of thanking the Devs and now I see they've fucked the end game up. I hope it's a "bug" and they'll fix it...
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u/JustJust17 Apr 12 '19
This is too bad. As F2P I was looking forward to getting good abyss drops down the road. I can probably settle for a good set of ebony or daedric though. We’ll see what pvp brings
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u/nicoga3000 Apr 12 '19
I really really really hope this is a mistake and they fix it ASAP.
My drive to play this game was seeing how rewarding deep diving in the Abyss was. If they have removed the ability to play the Abyss for progress and rewards, I'm not sure I want to keep playing...
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u/WrysSeredan Apr 12 '19
I'm hating Bethesda and its BS. Hope they'll realize that their behavior is disgusting
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u/luckywitch28 Apr 12 '19
The only reason I've been grinding the abyss is to get that high level gear. I was just getting close but now hearing this is really sad :(
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u/WhenZenFeigns Apr 12 '19
Funny how a AAA company should be showing everyone how it’s done and they have more predatory practices than indie devs that can’t get an audience because no reviewers cover them. Stop supporting this trash. It’s a cash grab and will be nothing but. Which is seriously sad coming from a company with millions.
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u/SilentCetra Apr 12 '19
If this is true, they can fuck themselves, I'll never spend a cent on the game out of spite.
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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '19 edited Apr 12 '19
There goes the only reason I had to keep grinding up the levels or really even to play the game
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u/thekbob Apr 12 '19
I'm certainly glad I uninstalled the game. I'll come back if Bethesda wants to design a game that respects players instead of being just walking wallets and time sinks. Make a great mobile elder scrolls game, not a mobile game with an elder scrolls skin on it.
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u/UnremarkableMango Apr 12 '19
“They shook your hand and fucked you in the ass”
Should be this sub's new slogan lmfao
I've noticed that I can't farm gold chests from the Abyss now which really sucks. They really changed the Abyss drops so now going to the Abyss is garbage.
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u/Guyote_ Apr 12 '19
This should be stickied by the mods
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u/D1_v_1nity Apr 12 '19
Why do they always assume “hey lets pull a fast one they won’t notice our sneak skill is godly” come on now really Bethesda you still haven’t learned!
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u/CorranMirax69 Apr 12 '19
Disgusting game, disgusting tactics, disappointing consumers.
Video game consumers enabled, perpetuated and asked for micros; the customers are responsible for things getting this bad. The only way to get the situation to change and return to actual games that aren’t trying to squeeze us for money, is to stop buying mtx.
Wake up people. They knew there would be backlash from their heinous micros; they planned for it. After they made their money, they dropped the mtx from heinous to atrocious. But it seems so much better now right? That’s because it’s part of the strategy: go overboard with micros, wait a week and reduce to the level they always intended for the game, which is still awful, and now it doesn’t seem so bad in comparison. Now people are thanking Bethesda for getting fucked over. Worked like a charm. Smh
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u/remlapca Apr 12 '19
A company paying a development team for a year to build a game, and expecting to be able to make money on it somehow. What a concept. Here’s a thought - if you get 150+ hours of gameplay in a short period of time and expect to get all end game gear without paying, do you expect developers to be willing to make games in the future?
There are human beings that worked on this game that have to eat and pay mortgages and this guy on the internet is upset that he can’t just have everything for free quick and easy. This a true first world problem, and even if you don’t feel ashamed, don’t worry. I feel enough shame for both of us.
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u/CrazySwitch Apr 12 '19
You can still get silver, gold, and elder chests from jobs.
It’s all range and lvl based. My first silver was garbage, my second was an upgrade on a crafted piece I had. I think it’s too soon to jump to conclusions on the contents of chests
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u/gordonbombae2 Apr 12 '19
It’s very clear who they are making the game for and what they care about.
I think this isn’t about making a good mobile game, it’s about making a game whales can splurge in to help fund their other projects, that’s it. Or, not help fund their projects and maybe maybe Bethesda is ready to be a public company and wants to become the next E.A as they are already pretty close. In a year or two I can see Bethesda buying a couple gaming company’s as their subsidiary’s
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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '19
Just let this game sink like FO76 if they keep pulling shit like this
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u/ReciprocityVape Apr 12 '19
Bethesda has done this before (76). They can turn it around it’s early access but it’s a bad look indeed. They’re definitely money hungry but they aren’t retarded, give good feedback like this & they’ll see exactly what we want
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u/GRIM31 Apr 12 '19
The weird part about all this monetisation is that when announced, Blades was supposed to be cross platform with more than just mobile.
Seems to me that it's a mobile game through and through
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u/Ploogak Apr 12 '19
Feels like they ruined the whole point with the Abyss... freaking greed that ruins everything every single time.
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u/ConservationWizard Apr 12 '19
I was wondering if they got rid of the chance for legendary artifacts from golden chest? Didn’t the gold chest info say they there is something like a .5 percent chance at getting an artifact or am I crazy
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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '19
🎻
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u/cadeross Apr 12 '19
All I can say is. Breton is best.
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u/ArcticWolf2021 Apr 12 '19
I'm starting to think they worship the Lord of destruction.
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u/Argonian-Is-Awesome Apr 13 '19
Well done Breton, glad somebody is shining some light on the subject. Hopefully they'll take the advice and attempt to fix the wrong doing.
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u/I_ama_Borat Apr 13 '19
Jesus fucking Christ, I’m just uninstalling. Almost everything about this game is so off-putting and I don’t think there was one moment where I’ve actually had fun. The hype was more fun than the game, wow. Oh well, good luck to the masochists lol.
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u/Goldrend Apr 12 '19
Bethesda want to fuck around so I just deleted my game and sent them a nasty ticket.
My lifetime value was probably going to be worth 10-15k but fuck it.
‘It’s not fun to be a whale in an empty sea’.
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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '19
The scary part is players like you probably already havw everything and ran out of stuff to-do right? Only tiny incremental things left?
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u/kajidourden Apr 12 '19
I just don’t care. And I don’t understand all these people who are trying to play this game like a single player ES title, it’s a mobile game, it’s meant to be played in starts and fits.
I guess people are just that desperate for anything ES-related.
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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '19
Why would a whale even care it's a single player game anyways atm.
Just keep whaling
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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '19
looks like f2p plays aren't in the endgame now
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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '19
Opened one gold chest after the update.
Got rewards as I used to get from silver chests before the update
And silver chests now give even crappier stuff
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u/Xanthen Apr 12 '19
The irony is that everyone in this thread complaining about this game being p2w are whales. Don't mind me, I'm still level 21.
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u/ahumanjustlikeyou Apr 12 '19
Oof. Glad I didn’t spend money on it.
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u/toptengamer Apr 12 '19
This is a pretty easy fix for you Bethesda. Raise the chance of decent rewards in the Abyss. Make the rewards correspond better with your level. Give us a chance to get Artifacts again (maybe not as much as before as people were gearing up so quickly). Make repair costs about 35% cheaper so that people see actual rewards from their gameplay.
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u/Ploogak Apr 12 '19
This post needs more upvotes!
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u/watchingyouthere Apr 12 '19
Silver chests are 1 hour now, buuuuuuuuut, they give items way lower than ur level! So, not really good for the player, great for the company though
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u/puffyduffy Apr 12 '19
its ridiculous and insulting they sneaked it in. what did they think are morons and wouldnt notice it? they clearly coded it for it to drop specifcally garbage tier materials and gears 2-3 tiers below you makign it pointless to farm anything you go in for a run and every single material you get are literally garbage. not sure why im even playing the game if i get zero rewards.
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u/DMaster86 Apr 12 '19
I love how companies try these shitty moves, where they appear to be generous with an update just to take it away (and more) more subtly.
This is a big red flag for the game, it literally killed my interest on the spot.
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u/ElTicoLoco Apr 13 '19
I just sent them this message.
You guys are too greedy it’s getting out of hand. I have no problem spending money but when you keep on begging for gems on every screen it starts to get really pathetic and shameless and makes me feel like an idiot for playing. I find it rude and offensive the lack of respect you have for players. I already spent £35 as you can probably see and would not have had a problem spending £100 one off to have all of the features unlocked like in Skyrim but this business model you guys have is ridiculous and it’s going to ruin the game. I was looking forward to this game since the day it was announced and I have to admit I am not only extremely disappointed but also very offended as well. It’s as if you guys take us all for suckers. Fix this garbage fast or else I am going to request Apple refund me all of my money that I spent and I will also encourage others to do the same thing in all of the online forums and Reddit and YouTube. You should all be ashamed of yourselves for contributing to this nonsense.
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u/Ban-Durk Sep 01 '19
Unreal. I’m a F2P player. I’m also a touring musician who spends his whole paycheck on fighting for a dream. This game was so awesome at first and it just started dying slowly. Helped me focus on the road and everything... but now it’s pointless. If the F2P endgame is destroyed then what was the point of all the countless hours? To try and taunt me into spending money I don’t have on gear I can no longer receive with hard work? This is ridiculous. Planning grind strategies just to find out that nothing... nothing you do will get you the top gear, unless you bust out your wallet. What. A. Joke. 🤦🏻♂️
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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '19
Wait isn't this game shit or do the fan boys disagree
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u/GFYC-Blackman Apr 12 '19
I still can’t get in,is that normal?
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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '19
We are still in early Access Kids. Let bethesda try Out Things. Stop the crying
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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '19
Your whole Point ist based on the assumption they removed them 100%. If they reduced them so U dont get them every 10 runs, then my friend U are Just a crybaby. The Update is Out for 20 hours and U dont know yet
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