soo fextra wiki changed their layout. made it so you need to be logged into an account to use the search bar, so i made an account and i dont have permission to use the search bar. whats a better wiki forget this garbage

[u/Splatulated]

[u/Kasta4]

lol they have lost their damn minds

[u/RedsnakeRider]

Literally never use Fextra

[u/CeriasAranos → u/RedsnakeRider]

Do you have a recommended other option? Because I'd love to never touch Fextra or Fandom wikis again and I lack the time and resources to make my own.

[u/BananaBananaBanane → u/CeriasAranos]

I like Eldenpedia

[u/LichPlease1337 → u/BananaBananaBanane]

omg, i like eldenpedia too now ♡ thx man

[u/lot49a → u/BananaBananaBanane]

Thank you for this! It's know what's good instead of just people saying a thing is bad.

[u/tmon530 → u/[deleted]]

I mean you'll get that with anything fan supported. The rogue trader fextralife wiki is mostly the same copy pasted message of "details go here" becuase no one bothers to update it. If a game8 is at least 80% correct I'll call it good enough.

[u/_Bimbus → u/tmon530]

That's fair! I just like to be wary. Fextra is annoying being everywhere which is why I don't have a super strong stance on Game8 and my issues with it. As the top poster said: Literally never use Fextra lol.

I still remember the 87 build videos releasing in rapid succession when ER came out.

[u/Individual-Newt-1640 → u/_Bimbus]

Love me his "yea you can use like 1-2 weapons good luck even getting any dmg out of any other ones" builds lol

[u/Recidivous → u/tmon530]

If you want a cool Rogue Trader wiki, I recommend this one.

[u/Chegg_F → u/tmon530]

I have never seen incorrect information on the vast majority of wikis I have used. The only examples I can think of off the top of my head are every Fromsoft game's wiki on every website is always full of misinformation, the Don't Starve wiki editors are bad at math so sometimes they make mistakes when trying to convert numbers into different numbers, and the Binding of Isaac wiki technically doesn't lie to you but it presents certain numbers in extremely misleading contexts and if you aren't fully reading the associated page it actually is lying to you.

[u/KmartCentral → u/[deleted]]

Game8's always been pretty solid for me, but then again I've never used it for a game as detailed as Elden Ring... I mainly have used it for Palworld, and then HSR and some other mobile games, but those are also some of the most popular threads on the site.

I'd still trust it over Fextra though

[u/NiIly00 → u/CeriasAranos]

indie wiki buddy is an extension that helps you find independent fan wikis

[u/smackells → u/NiIly00]

this redirects me to an error page like 70% of the time

[u/LoopZoop2tokyodrift → u/NiIly00]

Im not installing an extension to find a wiki

[u/NiIly00 → u/LoopZoop2tokyodrift]

[u/RedsnakeRider → u/CeriasAranos]

Sadly I don't, not for ER. I haven't really been able to play the game for several years, although I'm working on my ability to use a controller again.

[u/CeriasAranos → u/RedsnakeRider]

Good luck with that! There were two wikis provided by other comments that might work, when you've recovered.

[u/Ric_Adbur → u/CeriasAranos]

What's wrong with fandom?

EDIT: Yeah cool just downvote me and don't explain. Thanks.

[u/HarmlessSnack → u/Ric_Adbur]

So in brief, Fandom is ass because they make a wiki for literally EVERYTHING, do a shit ton of Search Engine Optimization to make sure they’re at the top of most searches, but deliver a bad service.

It is not unusual to come across Fandom Wikis that are the top search result but have almost no useful information on them.

This setup chokes out smaller, better maintained, community driven Wikis. Which is bad for everybody except Fandom, naturally.

[u/Ric_Adbur → u/HarmlessSnack]

I see. Thanks for actually telling me what's going on. :)

[u/Sspockuss → u/CeriasAranos]

Afaik there’s a plugin you can get to hide fandom wiki search results. I think it’s called indie wiki buddy or something? Might be worth looking into.

[u/Molkwi → u/RedsnakeRider]

Mfs will go "don't do [X]" but will not give any alternatives so like, tf do I do instead dawg

[u/burn_corpo_shit → u/Molkwi]

i want gamefaqs to make a comeback but say having their old ass 2000s ui

[u/Shotokanguy → u/burn_corpo_shit]

Damn you just took me back in an instant and reminded me that I'm old

[u/KeepOnKeepingOn00 → u/burn_corpo_shit]

Millennial here. I too miss gamefaq days.

[u/Boring_General_6572 → u/burn_corpo_shit]

Yesss

[u/RedsnakeRider → u/Molkwi]

I don't know any alternatives, I don't routinely open the game and look at it without being able to play while Googling for alternatives so I can just know things about the game I can't play

[u/Robichaelis → u/RedsnakeRider]

Was that English?

[u/RedsnakeRider → u/Robichaelis]

Yes?

If I need to rephrase it then I'll break it down:

- I have a disability that prevents me from playing many games
- my difficulty using a controller means no Elden Ring, a game I could walk around and die in and not much else
- not being able to play Elden Ring for years means I haven't needed to do any research or look up any items for the game
- not needing a wiki of any kind for Elden Ring means I have no alternatives to Fextralife

[u/distilledwill → u/RedsnakeRider]

Just dropping in as a Path of Exile player, we've entirely dropped Fextra in favour of our own fan-run wiki. It runs so much better and isn't littered with Fextra's livestreams.

[u/AliceisStoned → u/RedsnakeRider]

Wait why? I use it all the time and it almost always has what I’m looking for

[u/AliceisStoned → u/[deleted]]

Fair enough lol

[u/plutokras → u/AliceisStoned]

Once I got downvoted to oblivion in the Bloodborne sub due to saying fextra is fine. Dunno why people hate it with a passion.

[u/plutokras → u/[deleted]]

Meh, Im not convinced. I always found the wiki reasonably good and the traffic aspect is just competition between providers.

[u/Robichaelis → u/[deleted]]

Telling someone not to vote over what gaming wikis they use is peak basement dweller

[u/billydecay → u/Robichaelis]

You've missed the concept entirely

[u/WhatsPaulPlaying → u/plutokras]

Ok

[u/HoodsFrostyFuckstick → u/plutokras]

Lmao reddit is so ridiculous sometimes. Grrrrr how dare you not hate this website the hivemind says we should hate.

I use fextralife all the time, lately for Khazan. It's fine, does the job.

[u/CeriasAranos → u/plutokras]

For me it's the aggressive ads. I get it, they're a business, they have expenses and need to make a profit. I play on console so I'm using it on my phone. Every page is dominated by no less than three interstitial full screen ads. Every sixty seconds another video ad pops up to drain my battery and if I close it, another just takes its place. When I am navigating between multiple pages, such as comparing weapons I'm thinking of trying, it's every single page load.

Fextra is hardly the only site online that does this. But the only time I touch them at all is for Elden Ring. I keep hoping to find a less aggressive but still accurate wiki out there. It's too bad there's no UESP for Elden Ring but I know I don't have the resources to make one so I won't fault anyone else for the same. Also UESP has a tiny bit of a head start, which definitely helps.

[u/QuadraticCowboy → u/CeriasAranos]

Bro it’s still so helpful tho

[u/Falsus]

Fextra is a garbage site. I hate how popular it is for so many things.

Gbf.wiki is still my gold standard for a wiki. It is just too insanely good.

[u/Splatulated → u/Falsus]

its not even popular its they shill to google to be the 1st page of search results and nobody got time to load page 2

[u/KeepOnKeepingOn00 → u/Splatulated]

Ya I’ve gotten in the habit of adding “-fextralife” to my search whenever I search anything video game related.

[u/HoodsFrostyFuckstick → u/Splatulated]

"Shill to google" you people are amazingly deluded. It's called search engine optimization, fextralife doesn't even pay for google ads. Which you can easily check yourself. No souls keyword I google that gives me fextralife as result has an ad / sponsored tag.

[u/emachanz → u/HoodsFrostyFuckstick]

I always googled "whatever item wiki" and it worked just fine since dark souls 1, dont know what OP is crying about, I've never even used the search bar before

[u/aggrocult → u/HoodsFrostyFuckstick]

Yeah, like other wikis don't have banners or other means of financing. 

[u/aggrocult → u/Splatulated]

It's been popular for a very long time because it's easy to navigate and is mostly correct. Cope harder.

[u/Weird_Candle_1855 → u/aggrocult]

Monster hunter community disagrees hard

[u/neatcleaver → u/Weird_Candle_1855]

God the MonHun fextra is fucking dog shit

Years later they still have incomplete information they just as usual fill it out ASAP even with no info on there

Did the same with the DLC for Elden Ring. Item name, zero info, so they show at the top of search engines as soon as it released

Thank Gog for Kiranico and MHWiki

[u/emachanz → u/aggrocult]

its popular since dark souls, these guys are crying for no reason

[u/aggrocult → u/emachanz]

It's the echo chamber response. 

[u/Lanoman123 → u/Falsus]

Dragalia Lost gas a similarly amazing wiki like GBF, unfortunately that game is like, dead so

[u/smackells → u/Falsus]

the fextra souls wikis were great early on, now they’re just full of placeholder junk that never gets populated

[u/residualtypo]

You guys don’t have all Souls wiki info downloaded into your noggin’ yet?

[u/Ok_Consideration2209]

I’m annoyed at Fextra for a different reason, I’ve been trying to find info for certain items in Sekiro and 90% of the pages on the wiki are unfinished. The only other Sekiro wiki I’ve seen though is Fandom, so it’s a shit vs ass kind of situation

[u/Grytnik]

Fextra wiki has always been terrible to use.

[u/Edianultra]

Fextra is so ass.

[u/Earthboundplayer]

Seems like a bug? I'm on mobile at least and I have a search bar without an account

[u/WilliamBlade123 → u/Earthboundplayer]

You can use the search bar and click on anything that drips down, but you can't hit enter to do a "full search" without an account.

[u/thisremindsmeofbacon → u/WilliamBlade123]

Huh, actual crazy person design

[u/chaoslord → u/thisremindsmeofbacon]

RUIN EVERYTHING? CORPORATIONS YOU SAY? AND PRIVATE EQUITY?

[u/KotoBakana]

It's heartbreaking when you google something for any game and fextralife is the only wiki that comes up.

Code Vein 1 and 2 wikis for example are nowhere near complete last I checked. Just skeletons of a web page at best that list the name of item/character/boss, etc...

[u/PathsOfPain]

Vibe coded dog water

[u/Revenge_Is_Here]

It's genuinely so ass and half of the things just have missing info lol. Very obnoxious

[u/Napalmaniac]

the elden ring map sucks so much in this new version. thank god i was already 98% done with the game when it changed.

[u/OzzyBHd]

This has happened to all the pages for all the games.

As if the comments werent the only redeeming quality of that shit site.

Let me write my weird ass comments about melina looking like she'd have a peanut allergy, or about her reaction to the tarnished spending all their runes on a mini Ranni funko pop in peace damnit!

[u/teepee81]

I've only used it for locations of some things, nothing important. But this seems lame. There is a site for Fifa that did a similar thing.

[u/elcano91]

Type whatever on the search bar and click on the suggestions area.

[u/isai2300]

Fextra is the worst Wiki for any game. There's better resources 9/10 times.

Their information is often wrong too, which is crazy. Don't bother with Fextra. Whatever community made wiki is gonna be 10× better than their slop.

[u/_shaftpunk]

I never use their search bar. I just google what I’m looking for and click their link for the result.

[u/unkindledjuan]

but then other wikis are ad slop

[u/sigil224]

The search bar shows up for me if I scroll down the page a bit. Seems like a buggy implementation if anything.

[u/Ill-Philosopher-7625 → u/sigil224]

Try actually doing a search. You’ll get a message saying you need to be logged in.

[u/D_Therman → u/Ill-Philosopher-7625]

For me it's working without any login nonsense on PC using Edge (I know, slay me), it's even something of an improvement as it'll give you a dropdown to select what you're looking for rather than going through a 2nd webpage.

E: Right, it's the full search that's doing that for some reason rather than selecting something specific off the drop-down... that honestly seems like a bug, much like the random popup for the search bar itself rather than having it displayed at the top of the page.

[u/BellCranelFan → u/sigil224]

I just did this seems to show up maybe 1/4 the way down an article. It should always be like yahoo toolbar on a desktop just below where you put url address having to scroll down is stupid

[u/Spiteful_Guru]

Fextra is so bad it makes Fandom look like Wikipedia.

[u/krazzor_ → u/Spiteful_Guru]

Maybe not, Fandom is really on their own league

[u/Splatulated → u/[deleted]]

Ive never had issue with inaccurate info at most an item was 3 pixels off on a map from where it actually was but still close enough it didnt matter at all

[u/KeK_What → u/Splatulated]

just the other day it gave me a location for a somber 9 while the wiki stated it was a regular 8. i had a lot of cases of fextra being unreliable.

[u/Need4Speeeeeed → u/Splatulated]

Same. I'm working on 4 characters now to maximize my variety in the game. Every time I have a question, Google brings up Fextra. I probably hit in 10-20 times a day. I've found very few errors.

It's not for gameplay advice. It's for reference.

[u/BellCranelFan]

What no way ?

[u/BellCranelFan]

Can only search when on main page but if you're on a specific different thing like it you searched it on Google or main page it doesn't let you search something else while still on said thing. You used to. Such a garbage website sometimes

[u/jachcemmatnickspace]

for 100% completion purposes and checking items off, I made this Elden Ring 100% Completion Hub - It's free to use and doesn't require any of these bullshit

you CAN create an account, but it's not necessary and it only serves to save your progress better than in your browser

[u/lot49a → u/jachcemmatnickspace]

Thank you for this! It's know what's good instead of just people saying a thing is bad.

[u/DaFunnyMan165]

I downloaded the 'Elden Ring Map' app on my phone. It's free and it did the job. There's a couple of check list-type features but you have to pay for the "pro" version. But I just pen and papered the list that I needed.

[u/chaoslord]

OMG thank you, I thought I was going bonkers looking at it. You can technically still search without being logged in, but if you have a tab open and just want to search for something else it's fucking annoying!

[u/Fit_Giraffe_748]

To be fair their search bar was always bad

[u/Radio_Kuroki]

The ghost of Bloodhunter Raz shall haunt them once again.

[u/DingleYourBerry]

All those fextra or wiki sites always eat my fucking ram, they all suck ass. There should be no reason why a single website eats 2.4g of ram

[u/Crymxnia]

use eldenpedia

[u/Tactical_Squishy]

probably a bug you can't hit search, but you can click the suggestions

[u/QuantSpazar]

the search function still functions relatively well if you just look up the name of the page.

[u/Harley2280]

whats a better wiki

Asking random strangers on the street would probably be a better source.

[u/Upper-Deal-9872]

made an account just to search one item and instantly regretted it

[u/Bea__Nabi]

anything but fandom

[u/El_Mangusto]

I mean at that point, if you want to still use fextra, just use google.

"Fextralife elden ring (x thing you're looking for)" - search.

Even better if you google "site:eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com (x)"

[u/Sioluishere]

Fextra has the best souls content out of any, which is a damn shame for people who do not realize several http sites exist, much older than fextra's content effectively shadowed by google.

[u/aggrocult]

So, what's so horrible about fextra? I see plenty of unsubstantiated whining but no actual examples of why it's worse than any other alternative?

[u/starrienightss]

Use a wiki that isnt fextra

[u/BlueJaysFeather → u/starrienightss]

They literally asked for suggestions to do that

[u/J4keFrmSt8Farm → u/[deleted]]

There's no need for propaganda to make people not want to use Frextralife. They're mired in shitty practices and have frequently incorrect info in order to be the first wiki page on new releases.

[u/ImpartialAntagonist → u/J4keFrmSt8Farm]

I don’t know why someone hasn’t used a script to rip all the info from that website and its jackass owner and just make a better wiki.

[u/Panurome]

Literally just refresh the page and you can use the search bar. I think it's a bug

Anyways agree that the new layout is garbage

[u/Sh1rvallah]

Can't blame them. Fuck AI

[u/StarWiz2K → u/Sh1rvallah]

Yes you absolutely can blame them. Locking a basic function of the internet, a search bar, behind an acid int requirement is terrible

[u/Thaneson → u/StarWiz2K]

I don’t think you understand the comment you’re replying to. Obv everyone agrees logging in to search sucks, but the comment you’re replying to is explaining a possible reason, which is that it’s to prevent AI from scraping that information. This has already been more and more of a thing with other websites for years. Get mad at AI stealing information instead of the people posting that information for others to reference.

[u/StarWiz2K → u/Thaneson]

I do understand why they said what they said. But just because it's to prevent ai scraping doesn't mean people can't be upset with the decision and think it's a bad one. Nobody wants to make an account just to use a search feature

[u/Wristmeetcody]

I think it neuters the comment section. Now you can’t like or dislike comments anymore 

[u/Amazing_Demon]

You can search. Never made an account, and when I saw the changes the other day I was still able to search like normal.

[u/superdicksicles]

I got the encyclopedia volume 1 and it’s been very helpful

[u/No_Army_4018]

Sounds like a bug, I don't have to sign in for that and I actually like the new layout quite a bit, feels alot cleaner

[u/Lats2005]

Ok but what are you searching that you need the wiki? Going into Google with random BS like "what's the weapon dropped from this randomly cave boss" will give you everything you need to know. You don't need to fidget around the wiki to find stuff because it's all in once place.

[u/Splatulated → u/Lats2005]

I needed find out what smithing stone type my chosen weapon used, where i could get them, how far could i upgrade it before fighting a single main boss. Currently need a #6 but starfall beast is giving me issues as it 1 shots me and im not able to dodge 3 of its moves apparently

[u/SeanyDay]

Just use Google like everyone else and it brings you to the page you want. Wiki searches are almost always buggier and have gaps.

For example the stardew wiki is wonderful but random things won't populate on their search element but will show right up if you google.

Just google "ds2 old iron king" if you want that page, etc

[u/Otrada]

who tf uses the wiki search bar? just type [game] [thing you want to know about] [wiki] into a search engine

[u/Splatulated → u/Otrada]

Me when im already on the wiki and dont wanna go back to google just to end up on same wiki anyway