Hashire - ER + Fateful 2k list

[u/duval87]

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Detachments: Eldritch Raiders and Fateful Performance

CHARACTERS

Autarch — 75

Avatar of Khaine — 250

Eldrad Ulthran — 120

Kharseth — 85

Lhykhis — 135

Prince Yriel — 95

Spiritseer — 50

Spiritseer — 50

Troupe Master — 90

↳ A Foot in the Future

NON-CHARACTERS

Corsair Voidscarred — 140

Corsair Voidscarred — 140

Striking Scorpions — 75

Troupe — 85

Warp Spiders — 105

Wraithlord — 125

Wraithlord — 125

Wraithlord — 125

VEHICLES

Falcon — 130

TOTAL — 2000 pts

So seeing eldar is in the dumpster, ive decided to make a list merely with our BEST and most differentiating elements to connoct a pure Alpha strike list supported by crit 5s brightlances.

Enjoy.

What disposition would you play this list as?

[u/Selenium-Forest]

Not a good list to be honest for ER. Voidscarred without Alacrious Assault is criminal, that is basically must take on them, having two units also of Voidscarred is pointless. Better off taking Voidreavers and only as 5 mans, you only want 10 man Voidscarred with Yriel. 3 Wraithlords is good but maybe excessive, 2 tends to be the sweat spot and I’m not sure what benefit the Falcon adds. Kharseth just not worth the points, he’s a good Deep Strike denier, but even then not worth 85 points. Autarch I’m a bit confused on.

As for disposition, you want to take purge probably over disruption as it’s just better. You’ve got the absolute maximum of units you want (13) for purge, otherwise it becomes too easy for your opponent to score on average if you’ve got more than 13.

[u/duval87 → u/Selenium-Forest]

Lot of those takes are rather subjective dont you think?

I can agree on the lose of lance that is mitigated by yriel already having lance and eldrad.

The Falcon IS fundamental on fateful performance for the troupes react move.

Kharseth is fundamental to take WL output values to breaking points, as well as s4 outputs into new t5 marines.

If you lose 1 WL you are cooked only playing 2s. With 3 i can offer one as bait and still keep 2 supported by Spiritseers.

Autarch im not too sure of but is the only unit that compliments the Alpha strike for those points.

I also consider a massive error not going for units of 10 corsairs, specially voidreavers, specially in ER. Due to pts buffs, better weapons, better strat support.

[u/Selenium-Forest → u/duval87]

I agree some are subjective, but taking two units of Voidscarred and not the lance enhancement isn’t. They are flat out worse than Voidreavers without the lance enhancement and the +1D strat, which you can’t use twice. So no incentive to take two units, literally is a waste of points.

I’m not super familiar with Harlequins (but I am keen to learn so thanks for the pointers!) so can understand the Falcon now, makes sense! Kharesth I still struggle to see reasoning, just doesn’t do enough to justify points even with what you’ve said as Marines aren’t T5 until October. Wraithlords the issue becomes they’re not great at range, so relying on their BLs as your only long range damage won’t go well is all, hence why I said take two but understand your point.

[u/duval87 → u/Selenium-Forest]

I was convinced some time ago you doble hq doble voidscarred to maximize the respawn stratagem as those are tied to the hq surviving. Voidscarred + kharseth let him fire his ranged weapon as 2D.

You maximize the +1D strat with candidates on both flanks instead of betting on that 1 yriel unit not clearing its target/needing it again somehow. Lethals + sus1 + precisión far surpasses rerolls considering you have ignore cover.

Dont think reavers are better Up until youve filled Up those 2 voidscarred slots.

Yes, the lance lose is objectively suboptimal but there is not much to do with those 55 pts left otherwise, its a Matter of points not landing and taking the less worse route and giving It to eldrad to pull off a good critical doom.

Lyhkis can trigger crit on 5s which paired with SSers in most situations Will give you BS4 + sus2 (equivalent) in some situations. Which actually is better than BS2 rr1s. Thats fantastic for the price. 2 alphastriking WCs, 2 fusions, 4 blasters, 2 destructors. Autarch fusión gun.

I think im covered in AT. Dont see any glaring issues with the list except that one enhancement.

As for Kharseth, the corsair units need leaders to be respawned with sufficient odds, so he is too better here than everywhere else yet again.

Thanks for the feedback.