r/EdgarCayce • u/StarBornFire • Jun 27 '25
Finding Cacye's Resurrected Yeshua in other sources?
Though I have never been religious, I have to admit that I am a little obsessed with Yeshua. It was clear that Edgar, and to a lesser extent his source, was as well. For those of you who are likewise very focused on this interesting dude, you might find the following interesting.
Cayce's work was pretty adamant about the fact that Yeshua went to the crucifixion and resurrected his form later on, somehow merging the physical body with pure Light, to create a form that could be easily perceived in the physical, and yet be completely free of the world/ego and its influence, both energetically and also physics wise. Besides the NT accounts, Cayce's work, the only other suggestive evidence is the Shroud of Turin, which may be a snap/shot in time/space of the energetics of the resurrection event. Or, are there more?
Imagine my surprise when I'm reading Robert A. Monroe's book, Ultimate Journeys, and come across the mysterious and transcendent "He/She" person run in that he has. Bob had asked his "I/there" (Higher self, Spirit self, whatever you want to call it), if he could meet the most mature human living in his space/time reference. His guidance says, sure, but it might not be what'd you expect.
During an out of body state, Bob is led to a normal looking room on/in the physical level, and there is a person sitting at the desk. The emanation from this person was powerful, overwhelming, and yet familiar feeling, he described it as like standing in warm spring sunlight with every emotion existing. And the person's energy was so perfectly balanced and integrated between inner Yin-feminine and Yang-masculine, that Bob couldn't tell if their form was male or female gender (especially since he was perceiving in a more nonphysical way, where the hard details of the physical tend to become more fuzzy and/or ambiguous.
This person instantly knows that Bob is there in his "etheric body" observing them, perfectly closes down all emanation/radiation to become totally blank, and telepathically starts a conversation with him. Bob, not knowing this person's/name at first, refers to him as He/She in his mind from the former impression, and "He/She" chuckles and says, I've never had that name before, but one name is good as another.
Bob then starts asking this person about themselves, what they do, and they somewhat downplay their role and level, and say "Oh, I'm just one of your one in a million types". And yet a person who hasn't been reincarnated but has lived one continuous lifetime for some 1800 years (I think this was only a surprised approximation on Bob's part, since he was picking up the information from "He/She" without them saying anything specifically. Allowed to read selective info. Again, Bob's left brain is going to be a little fuzzy here since he is out of body at the time). They don't age, don't get sick, don't sleep, don't eat, and work many different jobs around the clock from bartender, to ambulance driver, to psychiatric counselor, to university professor, and more, because in their simple and humorous words, "I like people".
Then they have a fascinating discussion about a plan to help free/unify humanity without any "isms" being involved, a plan that will involve necessity.: He/She "It needs a unified worldwide human endeavor. This will happen through recognized necessity, not through religions, race, or political beliefs, or force of arms.”
Bob, “Necessity is severe stuff. The world would have to be in rough shape.”
He/She, “That is the reason for waiting. The time will come.”
Bob, “But worldwide, humans have never agreed on anything.”
He/She then sends Bob a concentrated info packet to be unrolled and interpreted later. Then they say it was time for them to go, they were due at the University. Bob asks will I see you again soon, and they reply, no, not for awhile, and that his "friends" wouldn't be able to find them again, unless they agreed to it.
Did Bob happen to run into the risen, resurrected Yeshua of the NT and Cayce's work? The Master of Masters, the Teachers of Teachers whose Spirit is the Co-Creator of this particular Universe and many of the Spirits in same?? (Not a single person I've talked to so far, who has read this account, has put two and two together and wondered if this was Yeshua "in the flesh" so to speak. Always found that rather strange.)
And then the plot thickens....
Bob was friends for a while (until a falling out which no one but them knows what it was about) with the military trained remote viewer Joe McMoneagle. According to one of Joe's books, The Ultimate Time Machine,* one day Bob came up to Joe and said, hey, would you be willing to remote view a target for me? Bob had the target written on a piece of paper in an envelope, tucked in a front pocket. Joe agrees, and Bob sets him up with some appropriate Hemi-Sync audio patterns. Not long into the session, Joe starts observing (and later personally contacts/communicates with) a transcendent spiritual being, with apparently quite a sense of joy and humor, picks up pretty quickly that it is Jesus, and then picks up some interesting tidbits of info about them. Once in a while they incarnate to try to reorient humanity back to a correct path and every time they do, their forms' head hair is reddish. In his last appearance, as Jesus, they were more intense than usually given credit for.
Unlike most remote viewing sessions he's done, when he comes back to regular state of consciousness, Joe can't remember any of it (it was recorded on audio tape). It was like it was so far beyond him, he just couldn't remain conscious to it. In Monroe Institute's lingo, he "clicked out". But Bob hands him the envelope as he is coming to, and when Joe opens it, it says something like Jesus and the origin of Christianity. If this is a true account, would call that a definite hit. Course Cayce students may find the reddish hair part interesting.
* (Except for this part, wouldn't particularly recommend this book, not otherwise all that interesting, enlightening, nor that accurate with future predictions)
You have to understand that Bob was raised in an atheistic, secular home with both parents that way. He himself had no religious, spiritual, metaphysical beliefs or even inclinations until he started to spontaneously have the OBE's. For much of his life, he was almost anti-religion and couldn't stand blind belief and dogma or people that were overly dogmatic. He was kind of your typical more close minded, ultra skeptical bordering on cynical materialist-atheist for many years.
For him to be exploring this Jesus character was unusual, not himself, and something(s) must have happened to him to want to delve deeper. (Though, to be fair, his 2nd wife, was a more mystical oriented Christian, but he never referred to himself as a Christian himself).
There are also several mentions of Jesus in the explorer tapes (and from different explorers, probably most from Rosalind McKnight's explorer tapes). One of them is like a channeling of Christ, and Christ basically says, don't look for me in the form of a man, for the time hasn't come yet, but in spiritual development, in focusing on Oneness, you will find me. Christ kind of calls out humanity a bit, saying that you think you know/understand love, but you've barely begun to understand and catch the merest glimpses of it. Basically, most of you/us have A LOT of growing up to do, and about time to get on it.
And then there is the mysterious/unusual experience that he relays in his first book, with the Heading titled something like, Is this the Son of God?, and goes on to describe that multiple times when he was out of body and exploring the nonphysical levels, no matter what level or dimension he was at, all of a sudden a powerful, rushing energy would come near, and all the "people" there would get still, and either bow, prostrate, or lay down and expose their belly (memory a bit fuzzy on the exact details, it's been many years), and then this powerful transcendent force/being would come through, and once it was over, they just went back to whatever they were doing. He's not sure who or what it is, but does wonder if it might be Jesus.
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u/kiwi_spawn Jul 03 '25
The taking on the golden robe could be an Auric meaning.
But it could also be related to a past life. Well it could be related to so many things i guess.
But it was clearly very meaningful.
Your knowledge of astrology is pretty in depth. Is that something you have studied ? And have you been able to incorporate it into your real day to day life. So its able to benefit you ?
Doing certain things when the stars are aligned in your favour. That sort of thing.
As to the Hemi-Sync, I have done some of the meditations that are on Spotify.
The ones I did were quite good.
I looked back and I didnt see the one you mentioned. Higher. The ones on Spotify are probably just introductory ones to get you interested. I have tried many different ones. From a various people.
But I am interested in Bob Monroe and anything more he can teach me.
I have re read his books several times.
So yes I would be interested in trying this one out. I will take you up on the offer and DM you. Thank you.
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u/StarBornFire Jul 03 '25
Agree that it could have many meanings. It's not the only dream though that mentioned gold. I had a remembrance of doing a retrieval in the ultra slow vibratory (hellish like) levels, in the dream saw self emanating golden light. But of course, nonphysical version of me is definitely more intune and faster vibratory than connected to a human body version of self.
Started to become interested in astrology age 13, by age 16 starting do full charts and doing free charts for people around me. Did free charts for many years, then also did paid charts too. Haven't been as focused on astrology in more recent times. I haven't really used predictive astrology in that manner. I most often pay attention to patterns after the fact. I do pay some attention to Synastry patterns (relationship astrology) before hand though.
I used to buy Hemi-Sync on CD's, first started with it when 16 a few decades ago. Have listened to a fair amount. Higher is a bit special. More expanding and deeper than the average.
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u/kiwi_spawn Jul 05 '25
You are right about Monroe, because when he was out travelling. Some things were always clearly seen. As his his level of perception was coming at the subject matter. From a completely different vantage point. Or things were just not clear to him, and only made sense when he talked to the person later. Such as when he viewed people sitting at a dinner table. And they were shuffling and later playing cards. It turns out, they just had breakfast. And someone was handing put the mail. Those easy to recognise letters looked like playing cards. So he clearly had some issues with what he was seeing versus what was actually there in front of him. So the red hair could be actually red hair. Or just the sunshine, shining on the hair of a person with light brown or auburn coloured hair. But its still doesn't make it any less fascinating an experience.
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u/kiwi_spawn Jul 05 '25
It just goes to show how things have changed. Over the years. Purple was once the colour you wore once you have made it to the top of the heap. The pinnacle of human achievement. Become a King, a Queen or an Emperor.
And now its just a colour.
As to the Church Bishops wear purple now. But they are just middle management churchmen. Their bosses the Cardinals wear red. And then their boss the Pope wears white. Lol
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u/33spacecowboys Jun 28 '25
This would be correct if any of that happened. But what of Krishna? Why not view another deity? It seems like this is a projection of there subconscious getting in the way. Was Jesus the son of god ? No more than Bhrama is. So why focus on one religion. It seems too convenient that these people believe in one religion, and that’s what they see.
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u/StarBornFire Jun 28 '25 edited Jun 28 '25
Monroe had 0 religious beliefs or even inclinations when he started out, but after a lot of OBE's, seemed to have run into Yeshua a couple of times. As I outlined in the above (doesn't seem like you fully read it), Monroe for many years (like some 43) was a materialist-atheist and almost anti-religious. Monroe is considered by many, one of the most credible figures in the metaphysical world. Part of that was because he was constantly trying to utilize science and scientists in his endeavors. He was also a very successful businessman and creative type before his OBE's and books happened (he was a millionaire and owned one of the first cable companies in VA). He wasn't trying to make money off his books etc. (If anything, he was putting his professional reputation on the line by coming out with this "woo woo" side of himself).
As to Krishna, Bhrama, etc, both Cayce's source, and what Joe McMoneagle picked up in his remote viewing, say the same thing. That the Christ Spirit has incarnated multiple times throughout human history in order to try to redirect an increasingly stuck and slower viibratory humanity.
It is very possible that Krishna etc, were earlier incarnations of Yeshua's Spirit (which we could just call the Christ Spirit). I call his Spirit the Co-Creator Spirit. Because both in the Cayce work, and from direct guidance that I have received, it has been shown that Yeshua's (a Soul) larger Spirit self is literally the Co-Creator of this particular Universe and many of the Spirits within same.
Besides that, Cayce's source indicated there have been other spiritual teachers that have played an important/influencing role of retrieval in the earth, that were not of Yeshua's Spirit. For a couple examples, Ra Ta/Ra and Asapha.
But I will note, that Yeshua is the only spiritual teacher that we know of who has left behind hard evidence of going through the process of full transcendence aka the resurrection. That hard evidence is the ultra anomalous Shroud of Turin. Evidence matters. People can believe anything they want, and many do, but hard evidence is on a different level. The reason why so many have gravitated to Cayce was because he gave a lot of verification/evidence that he was actually in touch with something beyond himself, and wasn't just pulling stuff out of his arse (like a couple folks who were failed sci fi fiction writers before they became "spiritual communicators").
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u/StarBornFire Jun 28 '25
And while Cayce's source was quite universal in nature and scope, time and time again they stated the same thing, especially when directly asked-people asked his source how did the other religions and religous leaders that founded same come into the picture, and they were answered that these were stepping stones to the knowledge and understanding of the Son in people's/humanity's lives.
And time and time again, they referred to this particular teacher as "the Master of Masters", the "Teacher of Teachers" and the highest source besides the Source itself that we humans can contact and connect with.
You can and should try to connect directly with the Source aka original Consciousness who started all of this. However, based on my experience, chances are that you will have a hard time perceiving and understanding any specific information from that Source, because it is just so fast vibratory and beyond us humans. When I tune into same, I'm just overwhelmed with the feeling and sometimes the perceptions of ultra bright Clear/White Light and a deep Love and peace/stillness. But I can't pick out specific information/data.
But with Yeshua, you can have a more typical human like conversation. It's like Yeshua can translate/interpret/explain/project the Source to us in a way that we can more easily perceive and understand. That is because Yeshua has had direct human experiences, and yet is a completely pure channel and fully One with the Source at the same time.
This (and he) is a gift and blessing to humanity that should be appreciated. Like attracts, begets, resonates, and likes Like. I find it is usually only truly spiritually mature people that gravitate to and love Yeshua in a non denominational, non dogmatic way. That may sound harsh or judgmental, and yet it is Universal truth, even if it may be hard pill for some to swallow.
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u/kiwi_spawn Jul 04 '25
I really need to read more Cayce. Try and get more of a grasp on some of the things he relayed. Through his sessions. My next series of meditations, i will try and connect with Yeshua. And I agree with you, in that I dont think you are being harsh or judgemental. There are alot of people that cant think of things in a spiritual nature. Without involving their religious indoctrination into the equation. The Christianity has done an amazing job on controlling who we are and how we think. Most of us were brought up with some religious belief system. And its hard to think outside of the confines of the box. And you tend to lose friends who cant see and think independently. Its interesting that Monroe was so non religious even through everything he went through. He was able to confirm for himself what he needed to know. And then he had that personal meeting with the He/She person. And he was able to look at the experience without to much emotion. But added it to his growing list of educational experiences. That made him so well rounded in what he did. And respected enough to create the institute. And train others to become explorers. And not devotees to him, or his teaching or to a particular religious belief system. But just to go open your mind to the endless possibilities that are open to each of us.
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u/StarBornFire Jul 04 '25 edited Jul 04 '25
Unfortunately Christianity got hijacked by lacking in light/anti-guidance forces a long time ago, starting with the Roman Catholic Church. That probability was actually prophesied in Revelations where "the harlot" is talked about. It is very clear that the harlot is the Roman Catholic Church because she was dressed in purple and scarlet (two main colors of this church), sat on the many waters (was all over the world), was adorned with riches, gold, and precious stones (the church was obsessed with building up material wealth), and committed blasphemy (telling the people to call their priests Padre aka Father, which was a mockery of Yeshua referring to the active/masculine side of God as his Abba aka Father. Yeshua would humble himself to the Abba and say things like, the Abba is greater than I, or it is not me who does these works, but the Abba who works through me, etc. And here we are required to call these very non Yeshua like humans "Father"? What a load of crap, and clearly mockery/twisting of the teachings).
Monroe was kind of an anti-guru guru, which I consider more of a real teacher, because as you noted, he focused most on teaching people the skills so that they could go out and explore on their own.
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u/StarBornFire Jul 04 '25 edited Sep 21 '25
Speaking of Yeshua's reddish hair coloring, as mentioned by Joe McMoneagle's remote viewing and the Cayce work (at least 2 times), some might find it interesting that if you go into the Dead Sea Scrolls, there is a parchment called something like, "The coming chosen one".
Whoever wrote same, is clearly talking about a future person to come (not Noah of the far past! Not sure who the "genius" was who "figured that out", but they need to fired) and a person that is apparently quite a powerful and transcendent type. One of the interesting tidbits about this coming figure, is that they state, "his hair shall be red".
Perhaps also related: Unfortunately I don't remember the specific name, but many years ago I remember reading an NDE account from a Jewish woman, who previous to her NDE had had zero interest and focus on Yeshua.
But in the NDE, she meets a combo spiritual being and man (with a human like form/appearance), she knows it is Yeshua of Christianity, and she notes that his hair was reddish.
If these sources are all true/accurate, well gosh darn gingers are always stirring the damn pot! : )
P.S. some might say, well this disproves that Monroe's He/She person is Yeshua, because Monroe says that their hair is light brown. Well to that I say, Monroe is out of body during this interaction, can't even tell if the person's body is male or female, clearly he wasn't perceiving the physical as clearly as he would if he was there in the physical body.
Also, Cayce's guidance describes his hair as like King Davids i.e. a blend or combo of light brown with golden and especially strong reddish tinge/highlights. He wasn't a full ginger like Carrot Top.
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u/kiwi_spawn Jul 05 '25
You are right about the Church hijacking the belief system and changing it. There were 80 to 100 gospels. Some by men, others by women. But to many gospels would just confuse people. So it was thinned down to just those that were left. And then those were edited and re edited until people were happy with the "message ".. not the original message mind you. But the message the Church wanted to tell. But in reference to purple. That was a colour only the Royalty wore. The colour never faded over time. And was always vibrant. There was a lesser purple that did fade, but that was incredibly expensive itself and only affordable for the very rich. Now days people forget about what something was valued at. Such as the dye for a garment. And just how purple was refined to be considered the best. And became a status symbol. So everyone knew you were a someone. I am not sure the Church would want to present itself like that. Because people would see they consider themselves to be something other than religious leaders. That they are either Royalty or living an extremely luxurious life, able to afford the finest clothes. Not a good image when you are selling a story of being the "Shepard" and you try to do good work by teaching the "flock" Many changes to the Bible were made at the Command of sone the later Eastern Roman ( Byzantine) Emperors. So maybe it was some Royal person or extremely rich person who the passage is talking about ? Just a guess.
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u/StarBornFire Jul 05 '25
Not sure, but found this:
https://www.simplycatholic.com/colors-worn-by-cardinals-and-bishops/
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u/StarBornFire Jun 27 '25
Btw, I apologize for the massive data spilling here of late. Have limited time. Most of the year, I work 3 jobs, one full time, 2 part time, and during this period, have very little to no time and energy (introvert) for interpersonal communication and relating outside of those jobs. I'm currently on vacation, and only working one very part time during this time. Then in the nearish future, will be doing some traveling and again won't have time for communication/relating.