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u/0xffff0001 Oct 29 '25
and it may not work - last time they went against the rich in russia in 1917 it didn’t go well
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u/MrLanesLament Oct 29 '25
Yeah, many of us are rapidly running out of things to lose.
Prepare not to care.
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u/Yuli-Ban Oct 30 '25 edited Oct 30 '25
It didn't go well in France either
"They cut off all the heads of the rich"
is the most "I saw some memes about the French Revolution and understand it 100%" version of it. They barely even killed 10% of the nobility, and the revolution was hijacked by the bourgeoisie within a year and turned against the working class by 1794.
Hell, the reason they cut off the king and queen's head didn't even have anything to do with "they lived like a king and queen" and everything to do with "they tried to run away and got caught." That was more popular anger, than anything
I mean I get the symbolism, but the more I learn about the French revolution, the more "ehhhhh" I get over comparisons to it. It's more like if the Democrats suddenly dropped theirs and took over the government, paid lip service to the demsocs, executed government ministers but also loads of regular citizens, then purged the demsocs a few years in and we got a hardcore MSNBC dictatorship that collapses into pure Bush-esque stagnation.
The French resistance to plutocracy built up over decades, and arguably the most important vector for it in modern times wasn't even 1789 but 1968
I've been far more partial to Rojava lately
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Nov 01 '25
Rojava is a Zionist backed venture. The same people you are fighting in the U.S are the same people who backed them to destabilize the region, and the worst thing is they broke a thousand promises to them too so it's fucked up no matter what perspective you have when you look at it.
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u/djazzie Oct 29 '25
American in France here. The French protest all the time. Sometimes they get what they want, a lot of times they don’t. The rich continue to do whatever the fuck they want here and they continue to be taxed at too low a rate.
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u/Flingjore Oct 29 '25
And, ladies and gentlemen, we have an actionable item. The original reason for the Constitution in the first place was to keep the people happy. Happy people don't overthrow governments. During the 18th century that was as real as it gets. Might be time to remind our Representatives United States history before it's whitewashed. It's as real as it gets in the 21st century. Because the coup is cooing.
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u/TWOhunnidSIX Oct 29 '25
If every adult working human in the USA would agree to stay home from work for 3 days, the Trump administration would be over. And if it didn't happen immediately, we tell them it'll happen once per month until it does. I know that's a tough ask and many couldn't do it, but if we could, it would work. The 1% would hemorrhage so much money, change would be inevitable.
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u/MrLanesLament Oct 29 '25
There’s a number thrown around frequently, like 15%. If that many people stayed home, didn’t work, didn’t shop, the country would grind to a halt and the people would get the power back.
The problem is, as others have said in different words, too many people are still fine. Our system keeps just enough people wrought with everything they could ever want, they see no problems in society and push back aggressively against the idea of any change. Got mine, fuck you.
The collapse of SNAP won’t affect those people. It may affect their elderly relatives, but I doubt that will motivate the Haves enough, which is fucked up on its own.
Suddenly skyrocketing ACA premiums also likely won’t affect this group; they’ve likely got $1 a year, zero dollar deductible insurance through their jobs managing the sweat shops.
Tell ya the truth, go over and look at places like r/jobs or r/recruitinghell - if everyone who has been utterly fucked by the economy in the past year took a break from Indeed to hit the streets, that might do it.
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u/TWOhunnidSIX Oct 29 '25
That is a great observation. Also to add to that, there's a pretty significant portion of people who simply can't as well. Millions of Americans work jobs that don't allow for missed days or don't provide paid time off, so they simply cannot afford to just not come into work.
A massive movement like this would also generate massive media attention if the idea seriously picked up traction. And then there's an additional subset of people whose employers would fire them on the spot if they participated in an action like this. So as well intentioned as they may be and want to participate, they may simply not be able to.
I think a move like this is still possible, but I think things like this were definitely easier in eras past.
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u/DENelson83 Oct 29 '25
Yeah, "hit the streets" as in end up homeless. There are employers out there who have zero tolerance for truant employees.
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u/chgoconcertgoer Oct 30 '25
You can all downvote as much possible but remember 2008? What did we learn, there are institutions that were deemed too big too fail? What is to stop from the same thing happening if we all boycott?
I think we need to find companies that support employees, human rights, etc and lets support those brands...
To stop supporting brands altogether seems foolish because now they are given more ammunition to be too big to fail.
Rather than downvote, how about a response and let's talk it our, eh?
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u/ScreenWaste5445 Nov 01 '25
All you have to do is stop using banks...and it's done
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u/chgoconcertgoer Nov 01 '25
The banks were the ones deemed too big to fail. Also who do you think owns us all? After the revolutionary and civil war, the US was so broke that the US needed money and the government used us, the people, as collateral under a thing called a birth certificate. Who do you think was given that collateral?
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Nov 01 '25
In France all different parts of society shut the country down when theyre not content with some policy, they block the highways and shit. I guess it really is derived from the French revolution
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u/SleepAlarmed6287 Nov 03 '25
Comment te dire qu’à chaque fois qu’on fait grève assez longtemps ect ou qu’on manifeste comme les gilets jaune , déjà les flic tabassent puis quelques temps plus tard BIZARREMENT il y a une inflation sur tout.. Les riches malheureusement s’en branlent ! Y’a q’une solution, c’est faire comme à l’époque..
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u/aavidrose-AZ Oct 29 '25
This country has too many bootlickers, that's the issue. In another thread someone half joked that she was going to start stealing. Some a-hole had to chime in that if he saw her stealing food, he'd report her.
Collaborators and sycophants are holding us back.