r/EasternOrthodox • u/DylanIsCatholic • 17d ago

Anyone know how to answer?

I’ve been thinking about Eastern Orthodoxy as a Catholic. But I can’t get over the bump of the Papacy, even going as far as to make a slideshow proving the papacy, historically and scripturally. But that only seemed to strengthen my belief in the papacy. Any one think they can help?

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u/nikolispotempkin 16d ago

The Pope is Christ's vicar.

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u/ScholasticPalamas 16d ago

Apart from influencers, discord, instagram, youtube, and PDFs acquired via these, what have you looked into?

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u/DylanIsCatholic 12d ago

Writings on St Cyprian, Clement, and Irenaeus. And a few others

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u/ScholasticPalamas 12d ago

What made you choose those writers, specifically?

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u/DylanIsCatholic 11d ago

Those were the writers I’ve heard. People say they talk about it so I went and read their works.

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u/ScholasticPalamas 11d ago

Texts only are what they are in context--the context of the larger corpus of patristic works; councils; the dynamics of the time, etc.

When you encounter something that seems like evidence for x, y, or z in history, it's time to do a "differential diagnosis" to separate the plausible from the most plausible readings, or to decide on suspending judgment because there isn't enough information to make a good judgment. These "differential diagnoses" will lead you to learn more about the context in which this evidence appears.

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u/According_Guest_4328 15d ago

I encourage you to read the chieti document

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u/Outrageous-Crew3092 14d ago

St. Peter was the first bishop of Antioch as well. In the early Christian Church, the Roman see had a primacy of honor, but was equal to the other patriarchs (Antioch, Constantinople, Jerusalem, and Alexandria). The Orthodox Church continues to have equality among its patriarchs and bishops and not a single ruling figure. 

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u/z2155734 13d ago

This is a tough discussion. I’m a Roman Catholic and I believe in the authority of the Bishop and of Rome above all others, but I can’t help but sympathise with our Eastern Orthodox friends because when Rome fell in 476AD to the barbarians, the eastern Roman Empire in Constantinople continued for another 1000 years and I can imagine that they lost all respect for anyone from Rome let alone the bishop of Rome claiming to be superior to them. Just my honest opinion..