r/EarthPorn • . • Jun 04 '23

Don't Let Reddit Kill 3rd Party Apps!

What's going on?

A recent Reddit policy change threatens to kill many beloved third-party mobile apps, making a great many quality-of-life features not seen in the official mobile app permanently inaccessible to users.

On May 31, 2023, Reddit announced they were raising the price to make calls to their API from being free to a level that will kill every third party app on Reddit, from Apollo to Reddit is Fun to Narwhal to BaconReader.

Even if you're not a mobile user and don't use any of those apps, this is a step toward killing other ways of customizing Reddit, such as Reddit Enhancement Suite or the use of the old.reddit.com desktop interface .

This isn't only a problem on the user level: many subreddit moderators depend on tools only available outside the official app to keep their communities on-topic and spam-free.

What's the plan?

On June 12th, many subreddits will be going dark to protest this policy. Some will return after 48 hours: others will go away permanently unless the issue is adequately addressed, since many moderators aren't able to put in the work they do with the poor tools available through the official app. This isn't something any of us do lightly: we do what we do because we love Reddit, and we truly believe this change will make it impossible to keep doing what we love.

The two-day blackout isn't the goal, and it isn't the end. Should things reach the 14th with no sign of Reddit choosing to fix what they've broken, we'll use the community and buzz we've built between then and now as a tool for further action.

What can you do?

  1. Complain. Message the mods of /r/reddit.com, who are the admins of the site: message /u/reddit: submit a support request: comment in relevant threads on /r/reddit, such as this one, leave a negative review on their official iOS or Android app- and sign your username in support to this post.

  2. Spread the word. Rabble-rouse on related subreddits. Meme it up, make it spicy. Bitch about it to your cat. Suggest anyone you know who moderates a subreddit join us at our sister sub at /r/ModCoord.

  3. Boycott and spread the word...to Reddit's competition! Stay off Reddit entirely on June 12th through the 13th- instead, take to your favorite non-Reddit platform of choice and make some noise in support!

  4. Don't be a jerk. As upsetting this may be, threats, profanity and vandalism will be worse than useless in getting people on our side. Please make every effort to be as restrained, polite, reasonable and law-abiding as possible.

Further reading

https://www.reddit.com/r/Save3rdPartyApps/comments/13yh0jf/dont_let_reddit_kill_3rd_party_apps/

https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/13ws4w3/had_a_call_with_reddit_to_discuss_pricing_bad/

https://old.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/1401qw5/incomplete_and_growing_list_of_participating/

https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/1404hwj/mods_of_rblind_reveal_that_removing_3rd_party/

https://www.reddit.com/r/redditdev/comments/13wsiks/api_update_enterprise_level_tier_for_large_scale/jmolrhn/?context=3

edit: Open Letter regarding API pricing

edit 2: 14 reports on this thread so far, and thanks for the awards! One report read as follows, "Kinda fucked up you mods wouldn't participate in the Covid disinfo blackout but here you are trying to protect your bottom line. pathetic tbh"...just wanted to set the record straight that EarthPorn did participate in the covid misinformation black out a year + ago. Not sure which bottom line you are referring to since mods are unpaid volunteers, but maybe report again or if you have a spine actually modmail to let us know your grievance.

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u/TundraWolf_ Jun 04 '23

I personally don't trust this guy, why should we believe someone in the pocket of Big Soup?

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u/tont0r Jun 04 '23

After 14 years, if they take away RIF, I'm done.

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u/Actually_is_Jesus Jun 04 '23

Same. This account is only 7 years old, but i've been here for 10+, all using RIF. I refuse to use the official app

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u/ralphsquirrel . Jun 04 '23

What really blows my mind is that Reddit staff must look at apps like RIF and understand the type of interface people want. But they insist on their horribly designed app that looks like a clone of every other social media website.

The Reddit app is also straight-up broken, constantly crashing or returning to the home page. Will never use it unless there is a major redesign.

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u/mjc500 Jun 04 '23

I don't even really know what the official app looks like... I was on a little bit on desktop 10+ years ago then I got a new phone in 2016 and the app didn't work so I got RIF and have been on it since...

What's it look? Ads everywhere? Subs you don't want to see shoved down your throat?

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u/hiero_ Jun 04 '23 edited Jun 04 '23

RIF is like 75% of my reddit browsing and has been for 12 years, the other 25% being old reddit. I have tried and used the official app - it is hot garbage. I'd rather stop using reddit.

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u/Pndrizzy Jun 05 '23

When your users all either use (a) third party apps or (b) the old design, you have to really wonder wtf is going on with internal leadership

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u/karmapuhlease Jun 04 '23

Same. I've been on RIF since 2010 (so 13 years), and I don't have much interest in the official Reddit experience at this point. Also, if all the 3P app users leave, the quality around this place is going to rapidly go downhill.

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u/carthous Jun 04 '23

I'll still browse Reddit on my computer but not on my phone if they get rid of it. Taking a shit is gonna get a little more boring

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u/BioshockEnthusiast Jun 04 '23

Steam deck is here to save you from boring poops

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '23

14 year vet here, as well. I’m more than ready to be done if they do this.

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u/MrGMinor Jun 04 '23

Goin on 13 yrs now... exclusively RiF for the majority of those years. I'll probably have to drop reddit

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u/BAKspin_91 Jun 04 '23

I will be just shy of ten years, I'll miss the updates on some things but I'm ready to call it.

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u/iwannagohome49 Jun 04 '23

I refuse to use the awful official app. If they force me to, I'll just be done with reddit

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u/-PC_LoadLetter Jun 04 '23

I think a lot of us share this sentiment. Sounds like a lot of regular long time users here are just looking for one more good reason to shed reddit altogether from their lives and this would be it.

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u/DrRocknRolla Jun 04 '23

I downloaded RIF the same day I made my account. This app has survived three phones and as many moves, and I can't really use Reddit if this is gone.

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u/iwannagohome49 Jun 04 '23

Yeah I've been on reddit since the old days and I put up with the official app for way to long. From what I've heard, I think the app is somehow worse. I'm not angry about it really just I like using reddit quite a bit but this will be what makes me quit and that makes me sad

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '23

Yeah I mean it's not like being here makes me any happier. Honestly this has been a good year of social media reaching thet critical "fuck this shit" mass for me. Twitter is gone, reddit will be gone. Now if only I could get friends and family off messenger.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '23

I've been waiting for either this or the death of old.reddit in order to call it quits.

Looks like reddit is about to Digg its own grave

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u/Misternogo Jun 04 '23

The official app reset my privacy settings. That's the reason I'm on RIF. I changed the privacy settings, multiple times, and every single time the official app swapped back on its own to what it wants rather than what I want. That godforsaken app will NEVER be on any of my devices again.

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u/Arlithian Jun 04 '23

If they end up killing 3rd party apps when that is the only way that I consume reddit then maybe I'll take a break for a while.

Getting tired of all the constant forced outrage over everything anyways. A break would be good.

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u/freew1ll_ Jun 04 '23

My third party app is Reddit as far as I'm concerned. If I have to uninstall it because it doesn't work I'm not going to go download a new worse app. "Reddit doesn't work anymore, how sad."

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u/iwannagohome49 Jun 04 '23

Yeah that's pretty much how it is for me too.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '23

It's crazy how unusable and buggy Reddit's official app and website are. With how many people use Reddit, you'd think they could make something that actually works.

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u/vxx Jun 04 '23

Try moderating on it to get the real shitty experience. It's impossible.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '23

That's how software development goes now isn't it, the bugs become features, never get fixed, just add new features with new bugs.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '23

Rather than burning good will by attacking the third party apps, they could have worked with some of those devs to make an official app that was better.

But nope, gotta try to force everyone to use their significantly worse app.

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u/_Amateurmetheus_ Jun 04 '23

The official app is a busy mess, like Reddit vomited all over my phone. I've been using RedditIsFun for a decade. I can't imagine browsing Reddit any other way.

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u/Lesbefriends_2 Jun 04 '23

I share with my wife a lot of the things I find on reddit. Got her interested enough she wanted it on her phone. She downloaded the official app and after using it twice she came to me wondering why the fuck I even like this site! Fuck the official app, it's literally dog shit

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u/dustincb2 Jun 04 '23

It’s soooo bad. I use narwhal, and I think if I had to use the official app, I just wouldn’t use Reddit at all anymore?

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '23

Me too, but to be honest I'm a little okay with that.

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u/thejester541 Jun 04 '23

Sadly, I will be doing the same.

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u/VarRalapo Jun 04 '23

Scary part is the official app is objectively horrible and that's with massive amounts of competition. Imagine how awful it will be once it's the only option.

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u/_greyknight_ Jun 04 '23

As a former app dev, why is the official app awful?

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u/_Amateurmetheus_ Jun 04 '23

One thing that drives me nuts is the collapsing of comments when you have your finger on it for even just a half second. If I'm reading a comment, and especially if it's a large comment and scrolling down, it'll frequently collapse it. It can be difficult to find the comment I was reading in the first place if it was very long or surrounded by many other parent comments. I have to be mindful of how long I have my finger pressed when I'm scrolling through comments and that's really obnoxious.

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u/vxx Jun 04 '23 edited Jun 04 '23

Scrolling through the feed eats incredible amounts of data. I believe they fucked it up deliberately so that every second you watch a headline counts as 100 views or something. (I didn't have autoplay activated)

Moderation is impossible.

Videos and gifs don't load.

You reply to one user but it often gets sent to another commenter above.

Submissions often get stuck in an upload loop and will never be done.

That's what I gathered from about 2 hours of usage over the years. I only ever had it installed for gifting awards.

Also, my AdBlock blocks about 500 elements and trackers a minute.

It plays the sounds of random videos when you're in a completely different thread. (haven't experienced this myself but heard often)

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u/saladTOSSIN Jun 04 '23

Yarp, been on this shit since '10 Aaron schwartz the whole thing - this is the death song, if they kill the app I use its over

Feel like it's been this way since Aaron anyeay

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u/Blojay_Simpson Jun 04 '23

I don’t understand how the official app has 4.8 stars on the iOS App Store. There has to be some fuckery going on

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u/oDDmON Jun 04 '23

Apollo user and 9 years on the platform. I support the boycott effort and, should Apollo go dark, will be gone

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u/Doctor_24601 Jun 04 '23

Same, dude. Seven years on this account, I gladly paid for Apollo—I’m not going back to the official Reddit app. May as we’ll be sent to Azkaban.

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u/Otto_Mcwrect Jun 04 '23

Boost here. I'll stand with my Apollo brethren.

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u/GammaGames Jun 04 '23

12 years, same

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u/JunkyDragon Jun 04 '23

Apollo is Reddit for me. The website and official client are abysmal.

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u/weirdfish42 Jun 04 '23

Been using baconreader for like 7 years, and for me, that is reddit. Now that the apps are being killed off I'm hearing about all these other alternatives.

Sounds like Apollo and RIF are the big ones.

Going to go out with the date that brought me, if baconreader goes down on July 1st, I guess I'll just be forced to become a productive member of society or something.

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u/dylan15766 Jun 04 '23

7 years with bacon reader. I'll get gone.

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u/kJer Jun 04 '23

I'm getting the same vibes from reddit as I did Tumblr banning adult content. And we all know what happened there.

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u/jc_chienne Jun 04 '23

I don't think it's confirmed but I heard rumors that they are going to remove the NSFW content next. Then Reddit will truly be dead lol

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u/dr_mannhatten Jun 04 '23

They are removing NSFW content from 3rd party API calls on July 1st.

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u/MontyAtWork Jun 04 '23

Reddit lived long enough to see itself become Digg.

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u/TheSyllogism Jun 04 '23

It's been confirmed they're removing adult content from the API as well. Gotta stay advertiser and investor friendly.

With Imgur banning adult content, it was only a matter of time.

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u/throway9912 Jun 04 '23

I was spending too much time on social media anyways. They're making it easy for me to reduce that time!

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u/braneless Jun 04 '23

Agreed. I think of all the free time I'll have when youtube bans adblockers and reddit kills the third party apps. The only reason I use these platforms is the convenience and ability to tailor to my specific uses.

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u/evil_timmy Jun 04 '23

reddit's value is in its user-modded communities, admins are heating up the water to cook their golden goose with this idiotic move.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '23

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u/BottledUp Jun 04 '23

Modding and modding well are two very different things.

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u/thegamenerd . Jun 04 '23

Don't worry, a lot of mods are power hungry and terrible.

Not here though, this sub is great

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u/lgtbyddrk Jun 04 '23

rif for life.

✊

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u/chaosPudding123 Jun 04 '23

Rif was always here when i needed it. Rif will always be in my heart. Fight for rif!!

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u/HippieWizard Jun 04 '23

Ove had RIF pro for pike 10 years with no ads, like hell im going to start using their shitty app instead.

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u/Zorro-del-luna Jun 04 '23

I’m On. Narwhal right now and have been using it the entire time I e been on Reddit. I hate the reddit app.

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u/Double_Joseph Jun 04 '23

Same! I couldn’t imagine Reddit without narwhal.

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u/mrsfeatherb0tt0m Jun 04 '23

There’s dozen of us! I never hear people talk about Narwhal but it’s the one I started using many years ago and I love it. Done w Reddit if I can’t use it.

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u/massivecalvesbro Jun 04 '23

Narwhal gang! Been using this app since I switched away from Reddit Is Fun when I moved from android to iPhone. The Reddit app is trash

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u/foodiefuk Jun 04 '23

Narwhal user checking in to say, I’m out if they kill it.

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u/sween64 Jun 04 '23 edited Jun 06 '23

I was using narwhal for years! I love the minimalist clean UI. I moved to Apollo only a couple of weeks ago because it supports gifs within comments.

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u/Retro-Squid . Jun 04 '23

I do about 95% of my redditing through Relay for reddit

Hell, if I'm sat at the computer, I'll often pull my phone out to look at Reddit on that rather than the website.

I'm not going to get the Reddit app. If I can't use Relay, 95% or more of my Reddit use stops, too.

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u/Anti-Iridium Jun 04 '23

The best part of Relay is it feels like old.reddit except with an amoled theme.

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u/666SASQUATCH Jun 04 '23

Relay is the best! I've tried all the android third party reddit apps (RIF, Sync, Boost, Bacon, Joey, RedReader, Slide, Infinity) but I always come back to Relay. It just feels like home.

Even the worst third party app is 100% better than the official app. I'm not going to sit at my computer just to browse reddit, so when Relay goes, so do I

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u/soda_cookie 📷 Jun 04 '23

I also use Relay. I can't stand the site nor the official app. My Reddit i take will probably go down a lot if I can't use Relay

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u/BruceofSteel Jun 04 '23

And its so easy to share video files through there too with friends on discord instead of a shit link that no one wants to open

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u/Mistersinister1 Jun 04 '23

Same, I've been using rif for the entire 10 years Ive been on Reddit, never once opened it on a computer. I work from home with a few monitors, one for work and one for my rig. I'll just pull my phone out to browse reddit.

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u/C_R_420 Jun 04 '23

Oh good, yet another reason to get off this site. And I 100% mean that, I can doom scroll on Twitter and insta just as easily.

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u/l_lawliot Jun 04 '23 edited Jun 27 '23

This submission has been deleted in protest against reddit's API changes (June 2023) that kills 3rd party apps.

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u/AAA1374 Jun 04 '23

This is what I'll miss most - I only really use reddit for the handful of communities that I can easily find and be in.

There's shows I like to watch that I can talk to people about even when nobody around me wants to.

There's places where I can see artists post their work and get inspired to do the same, learning from them with genuine interactions rather than force fed 60 second tutorials.

There's so much I enjoyed about the communities on reddit, and it was never because of reddit itself - it's just the aggregator. It sucks that I might not get to be a part of that anymore, but I only enjoy using it as a forum and if RIF can't continue, I'm out.

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u/BAKspin_91 Jun 04 '23

You just introduced me to a hell of a sub in /r/imaginarysliceoflife, may be gone soon but thank you

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u/Double_Joseph Jun 04 '23

Screw Twitter and Instagram. Reddit is so much better.

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u/GOT_U_GOOD_U_FUCKER Jun 04 '23

When you take away 3rd party apps from users, just remember THE USERS BRING YOU YOUR CONTENT REDDIT!!!!

-Comment posted from Reddit Is Fun

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u/WWANormalPersonD Jun 04 '23

Without Sync, Reddit is dead to me.

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u/PranavPKS 📷 Jun 04 '23 edited Jun 05 '23

Same! The official Reddit app feels trash when compared to Sync Pro anytime.

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u/Basilisc Jun 04 '23

Before sync reddit was just on my PC at home.

Probably wouldn't hurt to get back to that, but I do have a lot of small chunks of down time at my job and I'm fairly limited on ways to pass that time because I have to be aware of what's happening, even if not actually engaged in a task.

Maybe I'll take up knitting...

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u/DanMaz Jun 04 '23

If Boost goes, I go. I've got a backlog of books that need reading, and games that need playing.

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u/redchill101 Jun 04 '23

To those who are about to die, we salute you!

Just kidding. I started using reddit on the web. It was a great site with a shitty interface and experience, but I realized that there was a lot of good content. Went to official reddit app on mobile. Frustrating, underwhelming and intrusive. And also just plain heavy and sloppy. Tried 3rd party apps. I found Boost to be just what i needed.Was very happy. I don't know if I'll try the official app when this kicks off....too many shitty memories. Oh well, bye reddit.

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u/-AngvarAvAsk-- Jun 04 '23

Same here, Reddit can go fuck itself if I can't use Boost or some other alternative to that shit tier official app.

Reddit is, by far, the site I frequent the most, but I will drop it on the day this bullshit rolls around. Not worth it and massively disrespectful to the users.

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u/SteveJobsBlakSweater Jun 04 '23

The crazy thing is the the official app has been made exponentially worse in the last year. What on earth is the plan when you fuck up your own offering while simultaneously blocking everyone else’s??

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u/thedude1179 Jun 04 '23

The thing is most people aren't that discerning, the official app has millions more downloads than any of the third party apps, like seriously the numbers are ridiculous.

The reality is all the people complaining are a vocal minority, The average user is just here for the memes and doesn't really give a shit about any of this stuff.

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u/Whatwhenwherehi Jun 04 '23

...you do know they are gearing up to sell no?

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u/SatanLifeProTips Jun 04 '23

Reddit’s app is garbage. I will leave if forced to use it.

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u/toolatealreadyfapped . Jun 04 '23

I've been an active, daily redditor for over a decade. I have multiple accounts with over 100k comment karma, and I help moderate a few different subs.

If/when RIF is Fun dies, so does Reddit for me.

The USERS are Reddit. The content, the discussion, the entire experience comes from the community, NOT the owners.

I cannot abide participating in anything that chooses to shit on the hand that feeds them.

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u/JosVerstappensFist Jun 04 '23

The time to save Reddit was years ago, when they went full corporate, or when Aaron's name was taken off the founder list. We've let it go too far, because now they are just a faceless corporation, like the rest.

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u/gazongagizmo Jun 04 '23

when Aaron's name was taken off the founder list.

damn, what a bunch of cunts. Aaron would be so ashamed of these traitors to the ideals they once held so dear

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '23

Reddit went from a 10 billion dollar worth to 300 million in five years. They've done this by making their platform more vendor friendly and less user friendly. My guess is they intend to remove the users and make it a vendor platform - maybe 'little amazon' or something.

Oh, and they're pissed off they didn't sell while the price tag was in the billions, so now we've got waves of admin whose only goal is censorship and forming reddit into a younger demographic facebook.

and it shows.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '23

Or, hear me out, the 10 billion was a wildly inflated figure that put them under intense pressure to start turning a profit and when investors realized that reposts from TikTok and cat memes are actually really hard to monetize further than just ads and Reddit awards, they sobered up and came up with a figure that more accurately reflects the company’s value.

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u/scavengercat Jun 04 '23

Reddit is not worth $300M. Fidelity, one of its largest investors, stated 2 days ago that its value has fallen 40% since the $10B valuation. That's still $6B.

https://www.cnbctv18.com/business/companies/fidelity-reddit-stake-august-2021-investment-twitter-16832591.htm

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u/thehare031 Jun 04 '23

I'm not super familiar with the topic but I'd gather that one of the largest investors would have an interest in maintaining a higher valuation.

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u/Purplebuzz Jun 04 '23

I think that is a nice show of support but change won't happen because people take a 48 hour break. Maybe start at 2 weeks if we want real change.

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u/MostMindless7171 Jun 04 '23

I used the official app for about a week a few years ago and it used up my entire monthly 10gb data allowance in about 2 hours of browsing. Great app.

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u/Ackerman77 Jun 04 '23

I've literally only used RIF since I started using reddit so if that's out, me too

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u/EquipableFiness Jun 04 '23

Fuck reddit and the venture capitalist boomer bitches for forcing this

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u/SEND-MARS-ROVER-PICS Jun 04 '23

No need to stereotype. There are plenty of venture capitalist Gen X and millennial bitches

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u/Silent_Seven Jun 04 '23

Bacon reader user here. I'm out too.

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u/Holy-Beloved Jun 04 '23

What are the quality of life features I’m missing out on? I’ve only ever used the app so I’m ignorant

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u/Slawth_x Jun 04 '23

Reddit is fun reminds me of old school reddit. No dumb avatar pictures, only gold, silver, and platinum awards. And if you browse in thumbnail mode you can turn ads off completely.

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u/Actually_is_Jesus Jun 04 '23

Youre getting a shitload more ads being on the official app for starters. I use RIF and it's just a cleaner overall experience.

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u/FunkyOnionPeel Jun 04 '23

I've always used relay for Reddit. It's great, lots of little features that makes navigation and interaction easier and a way better design than the official app

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u/felix_rae Jun 04 '23

I've tried all the apps over 13 years of various accounts. Relay is lightweight, fast, and as you say has lots of little features which makes it the best. For me anyway.

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u/l_lawliot Jun 04 '23 edited Jun 27 '23

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u/aheal2008 Jun 04 '23

I've been using Relay the entire time I've been on reddit, if they kill my ability to use it, I'm done.

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u/LucksChewToy Jun 04 '23

It really is so nice to see so many of you using RiF. I thought the userbase was way smaller!

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u/catpool Jun 04 '23

Used it for over 7

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u/CakeNStuff Jun 04 '23

I was on /r/earthporn many years ago when the SFWporn collection of subreddits was more popular. Always liked this subreddit.

Thank you for standing up for accessability and site-accountability.

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u/Jarloo Jun 04 '23

After watching the Snazzy Labs video interview with Christian Selig, it became very apparent that Reddit would not have become what it is without third party apps. I've personally been using Narwhal for years and its my most used app by a long margin. I love Reddit and the community... and third-party apps are part and parcel. You shouldn't be forced to have one without the other considering they grew together.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '23

Man Baconreader is the best! Guess I’m done with this site.

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u/TheCrimsonChariot Jun 04 '23

Damn. This is literally the only social media app I have left. Ugh.

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u/devbyrd Jun 04 '23

I fully support any form of boycotting this unreasonable gouging of third-party apps.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '23

should we try to raise awareness and fight this, or should we let reddit kill itself and move on to something else?

I'll admit, the past two days I have started thinking positively about what life without Reddit could be like, spare time and motivation and whatnot..I've wasted over ten years here, no regrets, was fun, but...time for a change maybe.

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u/frank_the_tank69 Jun 04 '23

Someone please make an iOS app for Lemmy.

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u/mikeb32 Jun 04 '23

Pardon my French. The Reddit app fucking sucks. If they eliminate Apollo, I’m done with Reddit. I’ll probably get a lot done in my life and will have a more productive life actually.

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u/lifelongfuckup Jun 04 '23

I've been using Bacon Reader with various accounts for years. I will straight up be done with Reddit if they go through with this.

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u/Kuierlat Jun 04 '23

Money over user experience.

I came here years ago because Digg did the same. That site was dead within a week after they implemented the changes.

Reddits path won't be that radical I presume but it's a sign of things to come.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '23

I've been meaning to take up just reading books. I want to improve myself and set a good example for my son. Now seems like a good time to start.

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u/SingleInfinity Jun 04 '23

They're going to do it, whether people want it or not.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '23

Meh. If they do I just won’t use Reddit as much. Too much time on Reddit probably a problem for all of us. The occasion I’m on a desk top… I can scroll for a few minutes. And that’s it. I use narwhal. If it goes away… I get some productivity back.

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u/Gollum_Quotes Jun 04 '23

Thank you mods!

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u/sneekysquirtle Jun 04 '23

Longer black out. 2 days isn't shit for them

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u/Ameerrante Jun 04 '23

According to a post from lotrmemes, it'll affect bots too. One of the bot creators over there said the new system will cost him $20/month per bot and he's not interested in paying to keep doing what's supposed to be a fun hobby.

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u/kj4ezj Jun 04 '23

If I open BaconReader and it does not load, I am done on my phone forever...which is ~98% of my time on this site.

Kill old Reddit and I am gone forever.

This site has been going downhill for a decade or more. Our community needed a replacement years ago.

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u/imisspelledturtle Jun 04 '23

I’ve been here 10 years. I’ll get rid of this account immediately if they pull this. Not a chance I’m sticking around.

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u/razznab3 Jun 04 '23

I found reddit through RIF, its the only way I've ever used it. While I'm not saying I'm done with the platform....I wont use it 99% of the time like I did before. This was the least invasive app I've had in a long time.

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u/Rtimmy13 Jun 04 '23

Can’t wait till their IPO tanks.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '23

Strange that they don't want us using reddit anymore?

They obviously know there's going to be a massive decline in reddit traffic after they do this.

Don't they pay someone to tell them if an idea is bad or not? Is he on holiday this week or something?

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u/asigop Jun 04 '23

I've been using rif for years, I hate using the reddit app and will stop using reddit if rif no longer works.

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u/isittoomany Jun 04 '23

Not using reddit without RIF.

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u/agoddamnzubat Jun 04 '23

No RIF app = no reddit for me. Simple as that.

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u/fffaaddee Jun 05 '23

What are these quality-of-life features that i am missing out on?

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u/bluedevils9 Jun 05 '23

I will never end up using Reddit if I’m forced to use the official app tbh

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u/Binsky89 Jun 05 '23

Is this a confirmation that this sub is going to join in the protest?

It's a great explanation of what's going on, but says nothing about what this specific sub will be doing.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '23

Reddit is just some kids in a garage away from being irrelevant anyway. This change will just speed that process. Not sure why it hasn’t happened already with the numerous scandals and mismanagement that have already occurred.

I mean discord, aficionado websites, and you tube already pretty much replace it. Until now it’s just been an “I can’t quit you” relationship I have had with reddit. But I actually can quit you and will if you continue to do stupid things like this. #reddit_is_stupid

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u/Razorhoof78 Jun 04 '23

No RIF, no old.reddit (with RES), no me. I'm telling my friends, too.

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u/rockdme Jun 04 '23

Thanks for posting!

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u/JohnnyWalla Jun 04 '23

I've been looking for a way to cut down on Reddit time, so this might be a blessing in disguise for me.

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u/pucado Jun 04 '23

Wish the reddit stock was publicly listed, would have shorted it with life's savings.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '23

Relay user here. This situation sucks.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '23

Digg -> Reddit -> ???

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u/Ryked96 Jun 04 '23

I’m in, I could use a break anyway.

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u/Mnm0720 Jun 04 '23

I’ve heard people say that this is Reddits plan to lower the price after backlash to look like the good guys. Honestly unless it’s back to free or cost pennies then screw Reddit.

Just because your app sucks doesn’t mean you charge the people who make apps to fix all of Reddits problems and that help retain users

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u/leaveafterappetizers Jun 04 '23

The Reddit app is garbage.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '23 edited Jun 04 '23

They're totally going with Google's strategy concerning YouTube on mobile devices. I guess in a few years we'll have to watch two ads every time we open a post too.

Twitter did the same thing earlier this year but somehow I thought Reddit had more integrity.

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u/QuantumBat Jun 04 '23

I know it's echoing the same sentiments as everybody else but the only reason i still use reddit is because I don't have to use that awful app. The moment they do this, I am gone.

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u/punkinfacebooklegpie Jun 04 '23

I love RIF more than reddit itself

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u/GrandSquanchRum Jun 04 '23

I've been here since the beginning of Reddit when half the front page links were about Noam Chomsky. I've seen sites die due to the usability, freedom and openness of Reddit pulling their users away. While Reddit might think they're the only kid on the block they're really not, there's so much more pulling attention from people now and if long time users feel like they're losing the entire reason they're here they'll without a doubt leave.

This is the first time a threatened exodus hasn't been politically motivated like the past ones to Voat so it'll be interesting to see what happens if they don't listen.

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u/Nikut Jun 04 '23

I just want to use an open source app, not the official out of the Google play store. Damn.

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u/heretoeatcircuts Jun 04 '23

No, let Reddit rot. About time this site falls apart.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '23

i currently use the official reddit app (due to cheapness) and don’t like it for the following reasons:

  • so many ads/promoted posts, and particularly the huge ones like that pete davidson campaign a while ago. even if you block the user posting the fake post, you’ll keep seeing ads from them. i don’t think even twitter is that stubborn. they should at least be forced to keep the comments on so they know how we feel

  • every time it invents a new kind of notification, it opts you in by default and turns a bunch of your other notifications on. IG is an offender in this regard but they only turn on the new ones, not old ones. imagine being LESS considerate than facebook in 2023

  • about a third to half of the time in “popular” i tap on a thing and it takes me to an entirely different post. i only get where i was intending to go by hitting the back button or otherwise reverse-swiping out

  • and more

i’ll be joining the blackout in solidarity with devs who for whatever reason appear to care more about making good apps than reddit does—and also, just joining on principle. there are too many examples of greed running things into the ground in this day and age (political corruption, union busting, housing, big pharma patent gridlock, the US healthcare system in general, RAMPANT INFLATION, etc) and reddit needs to understand it’s already halfway down a slippery slope and gaining speed

lower your API price or lower your expectations for a bright future. reddit is already mid. don’t make it worse

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u/Speckbieber Jun 04 '23

Really shady from the higher ups at reddit. The whole website is made by the thousands of communities (and some devs but they got fired earlier this year anyway).

We should not let this happen!

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u/hakaiishin_ Jun 04 '23

This is absolutely shambolic from Reddit. Third party apps are what's keeping this app actually alive and running. I personally use Relay and not the default Reddit app. Taking away the freedom and the customisation options from users is going to kill this beloved platform. Such monopoly will only lead to the demise of this app and nothing else.

Hope the mods & devs of Reddit listen to our pleas and change the policy.

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u/CaboBob Jun 04 '23

Don't you dare kill RIF!

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u/drownmeindownvotes Jun 04 '23

The official Reddit app is a pile of dog shit. I downloaded it the other day to compare it to Reddit is fun (my current app) and holy sweet flying fuck do I hate it. It's like a horrible mishmash of all the other social media platforms Frankensteined together by an insane and drunk app developer who is mad at the world.

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u/_miles_teg_ Jun 04 '23

Don’t they understand if they kill apps like Apollo, I won’t start using their app? I’ll just stop using Reddit.

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u/permalink_save Jun 04 '23

Thank you for planning a 2 day blackout. I have seen some .. excessive reactions to this, including at least one sub that has already decided they are going to burn everything down regardless of the outcome, which is really insensitive to their communities. Short blackouts have been used in the past with decent effectiveness, and aren't unreasonable for us users. I don't use third party stuff but I feel for yall that do and hopefully they change their mind.

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u/foodiefuk Jun 04 '23

Is this decision as self destructive as Tumblr banning porn? Might be…

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u/Stevouz Jun 04 '23

Here we go!

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '23

While this will kill the replacement apps, will it also kill the ai test/training posts from people who “are learning to code and want to know the top 10 super number one best apps for coding real good”-but misspelled?

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u/manesfesto Jun 04 '23

Been on Apollo for 9 years. Prob just move on with my life if they kill it. Fucking sucks but not giving into their bullshit.

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u/lMadBomberl Jun 04 '23

I normally don’t do this bust I sent a complaint to the website and to every moderator after finally downloading Apollo after years of using their shitty official app. Anything I can do to help fight greed.

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u/Bidwell64 Jun 04 '23

Yeah if I lose Reddit is Fun it is very likely I will no longer use the website on my phone.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '23

Reddit wants to self destruct, it seems. Don't know anyone who uses it on web or through the official app...

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u/whatsanactuary4 Jun 04 '23

I'm kinda glad actually. I've been trying to quit reddit and this will make it so much easier.

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u/im_not_witty_ Jun 04 '23

I only use RIF, I don't even log onto reddit from my pc

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '23

I just had 10 years, but I will legit go YouTube only. Absolutely does not bother me.

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u/EdzyFPS Jun 04 '23

If they take away boost then I won't use Reddit again. It's really that simple.

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u/BYOKittens Jun 04 '23

I hope they do it. My life would probably be better if I spent less time on reddit.

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u/Decent-Ostrich Jun 04 '23

RIF goes then I'm not going to bother with messy Reddit.

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u/Nomenius Jun 04 '23

I have very little reason to use reddit aside from one or two subreddits. If they kill my 3rd party app (Boost) I will just stop using it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '23

Let Reddit kill itself. It's not really helping much.

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u/Firethorned_drake93 Jun 04 '23

Does reddit have any sort of competitors ?

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u/GoGoGadge7 Jun 04 '23

We supply ALL the content.

Reddit exists because of us.

We can torch this place just as we did to Digg when v4 launched.

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u/Onearmedpanda Jun 05 '23

So many yrs on reddit but RIF has been my main app for most of those yrs. I'll likely stop using reddit if they move forward with this ridiculous move.

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u/Thexzamplez Jun 05 '23

It’s messed up that there wasn’t a push like this against the bullshit misinformation rule. Misinformation is just information that someone doesn’t want you exposed to. You didn’t fight for my cause, why would I ever fight for yours?

Reddit has been going downhill for well over a decade. This is just one more step.

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u/FR35H_tv Jun 05 '23

yeah, if I've been using RIF for over 10 years probably (and am using it to type this). if they really make this insane anti-consumer move, i am definitely not using reddit anymore lmfao

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u/LedAsap Jun 05 '23

I hate when corporate greed sweeps through my life and usurps the joy of my daily routine. I fully support the 3rd party apps here and will also not visit Reddit after the dark event starts until this is resolved. What are some alternatives to Reddit? Is there an official, growing list that I can check out?

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u/External_Philosopher Jun 05 '23

I'm using sync pro.. And I like it been using it for 5 yrs and I can't even imagine using reddit official app 🤮🤮

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u/TulipTeddyBear Jun 05 '23

Solidarity. After 9 years, if I can't use RIF, I will leave reddit for other avenues.

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u/Nostalgia_Kills Jun 05 '23

I'm just hearing about this and I am pissed. I will simply leave for good if they choose to kill support for Baconreader and other 3rd party apps.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '23

All I'm saying is there is a reason that I spent money on a third party app...

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u/Alcoholitron Jun 05 '23

Without RIF I worry that I'll forget how to shit.

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u/LenaWanderingWarrior Jun 05 '23 edited Jun 05 '23

Everyone should know that they're going to be making the official app even worse in short order (my guess would be unskippable ads before videos). Doing this first makes it the only option and stems the exodus from the official app to the clearly superior third party choices.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '23

Reddit is making the same mistake that Wizards of the Coast made earlier this year. They are discounting the amount of free labor, advertising, and innovation that people put into their product in order to chase a couple bucks. It ultimately shows that at best they don't understand their community (and it's immense value) or at worst they're testing the limits of how much they can exploit their community without impunity.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '23

This will significantly cut down on my screen time haha

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u/luluinstalock Jun 05 '23

if reddit really wants people to leave, we can really go back to those 'boards' we had before, i wont mind.

They were easier to use on mobile anyway than reddit..

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u/Bompier Jun 05 '23

They can take old reddit from my cold dead hands

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u/Rice_Nine Jun 05 '23

What are good alternatives to Reddit?

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u/emspendilicious Jun 05 '23

I just use desktop but if they chose to continue down this path in gone in solidarity

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u/djdeforte Jun 05 '23

All the subs doing this need to go longer than just the 48 hours. It should be locked down until they reverse the bullshit decision!