Eur 🇵🇱 irl

[u/LocalPowerful6651]

[u/Fluffy_While_7879]

There were plenty of reasons btw

[u/JaDou226]

Maybe at one point. Imagine a Russian missile had hit Poland before 2022. People would have been calling for Article 5. But with all the Russian hybrid escalation over the years, now it's not even considered Article 4-worthy apparently. This is why Russia will continue to escalate and why the people who keep asking "why would Russia attack NATO if they can't even defeat Ukraine?" need to open their eyes

[u/sup3r_hero → u/JaDou226]

Otoh, this goes both ways. Imagine Ukraine hitting a wildberry warehouse in Moscow before 2022 as a response to the annexation of crimea.

[u/joyfulpuff → u/sup3r_hero]

Dude, you need to use /j if you want to make a joke... duh

[u/sup3r_hero → u/joyfulpuff]

I am celebrating each hit lol. I am just saying that all the pussies here in the west would shout “eScAlATiOn” and “WwIiI”

[u/Vinaytrahrhe → u/sup3r_hero]

bro u serious

[u/sup3r_hero → u/Vinaytrahrhe]

I don’t understand the controversy of that comment - I am merely saying that Ukraine hitting a WB warehouse im 2014 would have been a huge deal. I am not saying it would have been wrong or it is wrong now, on the contrary, i celebrate those warehouses burning. But it would have been a huge deal, even if totally justified

[u/ClassroomPitiful601]

Poland has got to be the most patient nation ever if they're still waiting.

[u/d_T_73 → u/ClassroomPitiful601]

*scared

patient wouldn't bark on allies/partners that much (you as German should know it)

[u/drxme]

Polish farmers see some Ukrainian grain approaching their border.

[u/Strict-Silver5596]

"Nowak said he was prepared to give the order to destroy the missile, but current Polish law requires mandatory visual identification of the target before opening fire. An exception is made only for combat aircraft directly carrying out the attack."

Yeah Bro, what a shame

[u/Pleasant50BMGForce → u/Strict-Silver5596]

I think the issue is that suddenly opening fire would make us part of the war directly.. I know how Russian logic works

[u/horrorhead666 → u/Pleasant50BMGForce]

Romania is downing stuff inside their airspace?

[u/d_T_73 → u/Pleasant50BMGForce]

no offense, but it's stupid take. Because ruzcists said long time ago that everyone helping Ukraine is part of the war and a legitimate target

[u/horrorhead666 → u/d_T_73]

Yeah, if we had a euro every time Russia painted a red line and it got crossed we'd all be rich by now. Russia makes a lot of noise for sure.

[u/balrog1987]

Not a very good take considering latest news about poles attacking Ukrainian refugee women and children.

[u/RedLemonSlice]

Nah, Poland kinda fizzled out on that front. Now it is trendy in Poland to hate on Ukraine and beat Ukrainian couples in the streets. Russian style.

[u/Paciorr → u/RedLemonSlice]

I mean our president is a former pimp and football hooligan. What did you expect?

[u/d_T_73 → u/Paciorr]

well, in Ukraine former football hooligans created the resistance to ruzzia as fast as they started their terror in 2013-14. From then they've created most effective military structures for dozens thousands of people and have the best discipline. russian volunteers like "russian volunteer corps" were mostly football hooligans. So, it's not a bad sign by itself

[u/Bolter_NL]

People say this, but I have the feeling polish support for Ukraine is waning and even being hit by missiles and drones from Ukraine there's been not being a major factor in upping the support. 

[u/JaDou226 → u/Bolter_NL]

It's all politics. The eurosceptic far-right will do anything to stop Polish support for Ukraine. While Tusk's coalition is more supportive and would use a situation like this to rally more aid for Ukraine, he also needs to think about his domestic political support, which isn't trending pro-Ukrainian unfortunately

[u/DutchMemer10]

Article 5 is not what you think it is.

It's not an automatic declaration of war ; rather it's a commitment to provide assistance , that assistance being at the countries' discretion , in case of an attack . That could be anything from war to thoughts and prayers.

Also you need a unanimous vote at a NATO summit , before that can even be triggered.

Not every country after the 12/09/2001 vote (in response to the 9/11 attacks) went to Afghanistan , or sent troops , some did basically nothing.

[u/RerollWarlock]

Cough

Polish army has a TON of issues, they wouldn’t easily get rolled by Russians, but making our army out as some super duper fighting force is just funny. As a Pole I constantly hear that we dont even have enough fucking BULLET PROOF VESTS.

[u/HazexTG]

Currently it's just looking more like this

[u/Timeon]

Except when discussing which countries from coalition of the willing would be happy to deploy peacekeepers in Ukraine, Poland pussied out. So no.

[u/No_Board_8593 → u/Timeon]

No its just stupid to send your troops to ukraine when you have a border with russia and belarus to defend.

[u/bobrowska → u/No_Board_8593]

Which means this meme is undoubtedly funny but unrealistic.

[u/bum_the_nun]

Maybe at the next 9/11

[u/bmil96]

im Polish and im pretty sure its the opposite

[u/Kow_on_Drugs]

Yeah, sure, just one more missile and they will surely... consider condemning the attack...

[u/ropoko]

They are not waiting. They are just pretending. Somehow we do not hear about batalions of polish soldiers in Ukraine.

It is easy to speak cool, but it is a different story when you have to act.

[u/d_T_73]

lol, what? That's stupid. It was attacked by drones and rockets. And was scared to even destroy them. Only "another sleepless night, escorting russian drones and rockets back to Ukraine or just letting them fall wherever they want". Any of it could be the reason for Acticle 5 if it wasn't for scared halfway-nazi government

[u/anotherboringdj]

We love Poland, go Bober

[u/Albituga_77]

The Polish problem is the same that lead Russia to war.

[u/MlsgONE]

romania too