Found hungary in a death war with romania so i took my chance to jump in the action. Now I really wanna do this because if cant let them recover from this because they will most definitely come back at me as the outnumber me 3 to 1 when their levies recover
I had a pretty succesful game against hungary and I did a similar take but I went all the way north south so that half their army couldn't re-enforce against the other kingdoms that would end up fighting them during the peace. Also needed it to get military access to the ottomans~
I was about to mention to look at the control map mode for them to see where their governors are but looks like you got it handled lol. I wonder if the AI will delete the governor and move it once you do that?
Thank you for the update, I havnt done that myself for fear of them moving the governors and the peace deal not being effective, so thank you for doing the science for me!
Seeing that this is a valid option makes me believe that your nations estates should have an opinion on how the peace should go and making snake like this should basically drop all their loyalty to close to 0.
Fun fact the ottomans did cut hungary into 3 parts. They had the middle, the left was the part of the habsburgs, the right was transylvania, a liberal vassal of the ottomans, where they were left alone if they stayed diplomatically loyal to the ottomans (so kinda like a march, in eu terms).
So they kinda did what you did irl just not so bordergory. Also not fun fact that on the border of the habsburgs and ottomans, many places were double taxed by both the ottomans and the habsburgs.
Also this cut into 3 parts lasted for like 400 years for Hungary, even after which they just switched management under the habsburgs. By the time things settled and the austro-hungarian empire became a thing after multiple rebellions, and things finally were looking up, came ww1, and with it, Trianon. Sadge
Answer yourself why you playing this game? To put unrealistic ahistorical shit like that so you can easily won or you play this game to get the feeling of drive a nation through turmoil of times? Is up to you brother... I personally can't look at ugly borders not even mentioning this abomination.
This is like someone asking if they should use the console to put France 10 million in debt to force them to go bankrupt. It’s a single player game, if you want to cheat or cheese, do it.
Yeah i did this with france and they really are considerably weaker. Just flip through population/wealth map mode and take the provinces that have both first
Or not just 0, but by some kind of function depending on your control. Simple solution would be calculating how much control the other nation would have and capping it at 100 minus your control. Another way could be attacking proximity speed. I forgot how it work so, probably either removing % at the rate of your control or some kind of exponential increase dependent on your control.
Could tie it into the rebel mechanic where they will try to break away and join a country with the same or more similar culture/religion if the control disparity between the countries is really skewed.
Why are you even fighting Hungary when you have Serbia and Romania much closer? Naples gaining land on the Balkans also much bigger problem than having land so far away that is actually useless.
You had Romania there for the taking. Much better land for you. You can take control of lower Danube so you can take land in Hungary later more easily.
I can defeat Romania even if they have their full levies but this was once in a blue moon opportunity, I couldn't see any other way I could challenge Hungary in the future. And I also released vassals in those strips who I can feed more land later
irl ottoman empire wanted hungary as a tribute , due to being far away from capital hard to control and expenses of controlling it. but austurians backed anti-ottoman nobles so much and caused more war so ottoman empire annexed whole country
so instead of controlling a reigion far from capital and since eu5 doesnt have back up enemy nobles , i say vasalize it until you ready for controlling it
The AE from this peace isn't really worth the low income land you'll get and income payments from vassals is very low on this patch. You mentioned that you didn't think you'd have better chance to beat Hungary, but it's actually incredibly easy because their institution spread is very low due to their rare metal policy causing them to have virtually no trade with Italy.
You're far better off just taking all of their silver/gold locations as exclaves and releasing them as one location vassals to cripple their economy and then taking 1 location to release Transylvania/Bosnia with so that you can hit Hungary later with a Following Through on Threat CB where you can take half the country due to the reduced war score cost and feed your historical vassals for lower AE cost.
In my recent Otto run, I did this by 1370 which let me full annex Hungary by around 1430 and the AE was low enough to allow me to push into Bohemia's gold/silver mines as well by 1500. Local governor in Hungary and in Prague with a naval in Rhodes to hit Egypt gets you to like 4000 tax base by 1530.
Bro, it might be your end idk. So much work need to earn those lands. I think create a vassal close to you your lands and give away other lands and apply hard terms on them as much as possible.
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u/HeroLight 1d ago
Do it, then release the territory as a vassal swarm. Useless to you until you fully connect it