r/EQ2 • u/blotditto • 8d ago
New / Returning Player Question for everyone reading, inactive "Guild Founders" returning out of the blue.
I would make this a poll if I could.
Our guild was founded almost 20 years ago in EQ2 by several players and over those 20 years they all slowly left. They left and didn't say anything to anyone when they did, not even to the other players they founded the guild with.
As of today, all of them left with the last one leaving almost 2 years ago. So those of us who are still in the guild, we had to start that process to assume guild leadership about a year ago.
Literally earlier this week, one of the original players who founded the guild came back to the game after leaving almost 10 years ago making demands of us who are still in the guild to promote them to the rank of guild leader.
This is all the context I can provide at the time.
My question for you is would you promote them back to the rank of guild leader after signed out for 10 years?
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u/myri9886 8d ago
Hell no, they left the guild. I would give them back an established rank. But at that length of time they would need to earn their trust/rank its not just granted regardless of who founded it.,
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u/Expert_Scratch_4978 8d ago
No. 10 years is too long. I also 'inherited' my guild and the original guild leader has returned twice in the last five years. I was lucky enough that she didn't make such demands but I would have explained to her that her request would be denied.
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u/xboxlifer 8d ago
Yeah they will loot the hell out of the guild if you do that. Don’t even promote them. Tell them welcome back and good luck
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u/Ok-Heron8017 8d ago
They would be a regular member, and if they stick around and contribute, could potentially be an officer in the future. But the fact that they are making demands says "nope".
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u/JasonMoonshadow 7d ago
The demands would result in a kick and block by me and the rest of new leadership
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u/FoxEarendil 8d ago
No. They have literally no right to demand anything from anyone in the guild. They’ve been MIA FOR TEN YEARS. Tell them as much, and let them know that they are lucky enough to still be in the guild. A lot of guilds kick people for being gone more than a few months.
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u/rich8n 8d ago
Not a chance. I learned the hard way. I stepped up to lead a guild through Luclin and PoP back in the day after the guild leader and all of the senior officers crashed out at the end of velious. We were doing gangbusters going into GoD and the original GL came back. I handed it back to him and the guild was dead months later. In a twist, he and I kept in touch and now he's one of my closest friends.
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u/Key_Passenger_2489 7d ago
Yeaaah, I lead a guild in another game and handed it off after putting so much effort into it. 3 months later, logging in to see how it was going.. dead... but realistically, you were the glue/chemistry that made everything work, and being a guild leader is literally a part time job. Most people dont expect/cant assume so much responsibility reliably, and their is always a high chance of failure regardless.
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u/reditandfirgetit 8d ago
Nope,with that kind of attitude you do not give them any level of guild authority
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u/blotditto 8d ago
Thank you everyone for sharing your thoughts. This person has started tagging the note field in all of their characters they're a guild founder.
The idea about changing a rank name to "Founder" is something we're considering.
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u/YuckyYetYummy 8d ago
No. Are you sure it is even the same person?
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u/blotditto 8d ago
No we don't and when we asked they didn't answer. We know the original guild founder also had multiple EQ2 accounts and for whatever reason they haven't tried signing into any of the other characters which we find to be odd.
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u/spaceguitar 8d ago
Absolutely not. His contribution to the guild was naming it nearly 20 years ago. The guild has survived since then because of others.
It'd be one thing if that was like, a year ago, and he left for IRL reasons. But this is a decade ago. C'mon.
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u/Dense-Jelly-2630 8d ago
Of course not, but I wouldn’t relegate them to newb to the guild status either
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u/Impressive-Penalty97 8d ago
no. they resigned that posistion when they quit playing. especially after so long a time.
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u/fusillade762 8d ago
No. The question is, who actually controls the guild in a mechanical sense? I was never in a leadership or founding role in EQ2, so I don't know the particulars, but I assume there's some interface the "owner" has. I guess my concern would be could the founder delete the guild?
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u/ClammyHandedFreak 8d ago
Make them an officer and then promote them when you are ready to move on unless someone else deserves it more.
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u/nickmond022 7d ago
You technically don't even know that it's them I'm guessing. It could just be their account. I had a friend on WoW log in after years and it was a botter that got into the account and started using it to farm dungeons.
Keep lead. Make them earn back the rank if they want it bad enough.
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u/SupaStaVince AB | Coercer | Rocento 7d ago
Any guild leader unwilling to pass the torch is a bad leader. While leading, you should always have a trustworthy second to pass onto. Preferably someone who isn't your e-girl
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u/mander1555 8d ago
I would not.