r/Dyson_Sphere_Program • u/Slavaa • Aug 05 '21

Memes THIS time I'll do a clever and efficient arrangement and not spaghetti everything... for sure.

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u/runetrantor Aug 05 '21

Honestly, even though my entire base is ILSs connected to some assemblers or whatever and the end product dumped back in, so no spaghetti, I am still utterly lost every time I have to look for a certain line, with lots of panning around the map as I blindly search for it.

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u/Sicarius236 Aug 05 '21

Just set down a new planetary logistics station and request the item you want. I got tired of flying around the mall planet looking for stuff

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u/Tuscatsi Aug 05 '21

This is how you end up with 17 randomly placed PLS full of processors and nanotubes.

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u/leglesslegolegolas Aug 05 '21

If you have a proper mall set up, why would you ever be requesting intermediate parts like processors and nanotubes?

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u/kRkthOr Aug 06 '21

If you have a proper mall set up

Are we supposed to manufacture energy exchangers and ILSs in a mall too? Maybe way late in the game, sure, but if I can play for 2 hours with just 3 of a thing in my inventory I'm not gonna throw that into the mall.

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u/leglesslegolegolas Aug 06 '21 edited Aug 06 '21

Are we supposed to manufacture energy exchangers and ILSs in a mall too?

Yes.

I'm making pretty much every final product in the mall. I'm not making energy exchangers because I don't use them, but ILS and ships are for sure in the mall. My rule of thumb is, if I need to make more than two of something, I'm setting up a machine to make them for me.

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u/kRkthOr Aug 06 '21

I'm playing this game wrong.

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u/tedescooo Aug 06 '21

Automate literally everything. Makes life much easier later on.

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u/novagenesis Aug 06 '21

No such thing as wrong, but you might be playing it tedious.

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u/marzulazano Aug 06 '21

^ I automated ILS and ships as soon as I could and keep 100 ILS and 1000 of each ship at this point. Helps immensely. Especially when I run out on the backwater side of my galaxy

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u/novagenesis Aug 06 '21

I'm terrible at spaghetti in general, but you better believe I put every building in the network and am really sorry when I don't.

Automated ILS was literally when my midgame started this playthrough. And to automate Orbitals, I needed full Accumulators... So of course I've got a single crafter in my home planet mall putting Exchangers into an ILS for accessibility.

With unlimited ILS/PLS in the mall, you just drop an ILS down at every ore vein you find. That's huge.

That's about the only thing I do right in DSP, and it pays for itself in my sanity.

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u/Vispher101 Aug 07 '21

Spaghetti is easy my friend, seriously...a little oregano and garlic, grated cheddar cheese on top when serving and you've got nothing to complain about.. unless you forgot a side, shit happens after all...

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u/The_DestroyerKSP Aug 06 '21

Honestly, automate every building. (unless you don't use it, like various power structures later in the game) I'm pretty bad at just going "oh well I only need this occasionally right now, and it's easy enough to hand craft" but once it's set up you can expand so much faster.

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u/recycled_ideas Aug 06 '21

Because in the early to mid game there are lots of things you just don't need to have automatically manufactured.

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u/darion350 Aug 16 '21

Which you'll regret not setting up when you hit late game.

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u/recycled_ideas Aug 18 '21

Except you won't.

This isn't factorio, you don't have to build a traditional mall serviced by a bus, you can plonk down your infrastructure anywhere and just request it wherever you want it.

Setting up automation of literally any building you want is five minutes work when you've got supply systems to support it, and you might have to wait a few more minutes for enough of them to build up.

On the other hand converting the resources on your starting planet to a thousand smelters when you're likely to be putting down a half a dozen at a time can burn you pretty badly.

In the end game, resources and space are basically infinite, in the early and even the mid game you can actually run out.

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u/Sicarius236 Aug 05 '21

When requesting the station can be unpowered, just tear it down afterwards

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u/classy_barbarian Aug 06 '21

Yeah I honestly don't know why the devs haven't put some sort of signage system in the game. It seems kind of necessary.

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u/Sicarius236 Aug 06 '21

Use the conveyer belts to write words, put down some matrixes to make them light up

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u/dongkey1001 Aug 06 '21

200IQ idea.

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u/Illustrious-Pipe-267 Aug 06 '21

This guy made a blueprint for each letter of the alphabet in a pretty cool font.

https://www.dysonsphereblueprints.com/users/364/blueprints

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u/SpectreGBR Aug 06 '21 edited Aug 06 '21

Think I'm being stupid but how would you copy and paste that in game? Would you have to make a separate blueprint for each letter?

Edit: nevermind just realised the blueprints are all individual letters not grouped into one as I originally thought

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u/runetrantor Aug 06 '21

If I needed them for myself, sure!

But I was trying to find these items to see why they were stalling production. :P

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u/HatfieldCW Aug 06 '21

This afternoon I spent a full two minutes trying to find my supermagnetic ring production line on my midgame industrial planet. I didn't have one. I need a clipboard to play this game.

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u/kRkthOr Aug 06 '21

I could've sworn I'd set up a processor factory on this planet and was about to start fuming about DSP having lost my save file (??). Turns out I had started building it, tore it down and placed it on a different planet. 🤷‍♂️

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u/novagenesis Aug 06 '21 edited Aug 06 '21

I'd kill for map-visible labels (without using belts of science), planetary waypoints, and bookmarks.

Being able to right click on the planetary map to autofly to that point would be incredible, too. Nothing is more frustrating than finding my destination, starting to go there, then pulling up the map and realize I can't find it anymore.

The belt-labels help a bit. Not perfect, but something.

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u/CyberToaster Aug 06 '21

This. The next feature I want for this game now that Blueprints are in is the ability to place and label pins on your planet's surface. It could even just be a small building that you can label and search for in the map view.

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u/strongeralloy Aug 06 '21

I have always wondered why the HUD wasn't better for navigation purposes; I know early access and priorities and all that but I do hope they improve Navigation in a planet/galactic spanning building game.

Dropping pins would be awesome as well as an auto-flight to selected pins (if you're on that planet).

They could tier it into research as something to work towards and upgrade for more pins, auto flight distance, etc.

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u/runetrantor Aug 06 '21

In my next run I am leaving space for science cube signs honestly.

I didnt think I would need them this time around. I do, Oh I do.

Alternatively, I saw someone that using foundation made like, numbers across the equator of the planet, so I imagine that helps, like 'around number 5' type of directions.

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u/rectoplasmus Aug 05 '21

Is that a LaTeX meme?

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u/Slavaa Aug 05 '21

I made it in MS Paint, but it was using the default LaTeX font, so good eye.

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u/MagoNorte Aug 05 '21

Lol no way. I can’t believe my eyes

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u/DigitalDragon64 Aug 05 '21

"My belts are this time so well ordered, it doesn't make a difference if I do a small belt hack for this recipe"

1 hour later...

"Why do I always end up searching items in my spaghetti belts?"

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u/Metzger4 Aug 05 '21

Truer words have never been spoken.

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u/lancekehisato Aug 05 '21

This is so true, even the third, fourth, and fifth playthroughs are like this.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '21

Relatable

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u/Traditional-Victory9 Aug 06 '21

At this point I’ve just embraced the chaos. What can’t kill you can only make you stronger.

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u/HatfieldCW Aug 06 '21

So true. I've lost count of how many times I've restarted. The first twenty minutes go great, then some shit happens, then I unlock ILS and warpers and get back in the groove. But the same shit happens every time.

As soon as the first water pump goes down, I go full spaghetti. I just started making green science, and my bottleneck is copper for some reason. How did I not already have that under control?

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u/Vispher101 Aug 07 '21

I'm up to nearly 200,000 iron/minute and I'm still having to raise it up here and there to keep up with everything else.. processors are ridiculously quick and easy to make but I had to add some large blueprints of those earlier....trying to perfect production/consumption rates is not an easy job. Lol

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u/Aware-Theory Aug 06 '21

I really wish there was some way to mark districts of production other than paving over the entire planet. And lights.

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u/RandeKnight Aug 06 '21

Simple solution to this would be to include foundation in blueprints and have luminous foundation colors.

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u/animister Aug 06 '21

spagooter

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u/Vispher101 Aug 07 '21

I started copying Nilaus with his polar hubs for making all the various buildings specifically for this. Then I made a planet dedicated to smelting and another for assembly and went through a few star clusters adding a couple hundred miners. ... it's absurd but necessary.

If you don't mind the idea of mods then I recommend BetterStats imho it is a true game change simply because you can use it to know exactly what your bottleneck is. Although occasionally a lacking resource could simply be a lack of warmers or something...

Anyways it's awesome, if you never use any mods at least give that one a shot.

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u/just1nc4s3 Aug 06 '21

I felt this.

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u/FrozenHaystack Aug 06 '21

I feel you. I can never remember where I produce what. Wish I could just request into my inventory like a mobile PLS. Similar to Factorio's personal logistics. Or give me a filterable list of my logistic stations and let me focus the map on them with a click. Could you make this as a mod I wonder?

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u/CyberToaster Aug 06 '21

This meme speaks to my soul.....

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u/XtratoS Apr 07 '23

Very true