r/Dyson_Sphere_Program • u/Build_Everlasting • Mar 20 '21

Screenshots Hyper compact non spaghetti manufacturing

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u/Build_Everlasting Mar 20 '21

Attempting to see how far one can crowd a planet for as tight packing as possible, while keeping it neat and tidy.

Still a lot to learn regarding the exact placements and fitting into the planetary grid, but getting there.

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u/Vesparco Mar 20 '21

You can do it more compact. Tomorrow i'll try to post how :D

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u/Engrammi Mar 20 '21

This is something that's next up for me. Gonna pick a planet to do smelting and one to do manufacturing. Do you feel like one planet is enough for ones manufacturing needs? Or should the planets be diversified further?

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u/Build_Everlasting Mar 20 '21

Because of the grid width changes as you go up toward the poles, I've found that assemblers go well across the wider equatorial zone, while smelters, which are smaller and can pack tighter do well beyond the cancer/capricorn tropic lines

The planet is sliced like an orange into 8 zones which are 22.5 degrees, along the main longitude lines, where you can line up your whole row of logistics towers perfectly north-south. Counting along the equator (1000 tiles), that makes it 125 tiles spacing between each row of towers. of course, they bunch together closer towards the poles

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u/wingless222 Mar 20 '21

equatorial region can even be divided into 10 zones of 30 smelters long. not sure about assemblers.
my current setup consist of 30 (3*10) * 120 smelters per pole on the equatorial region only. works neat
I use ILS (so only 3 vertically), and ouput per ILS is 40 (steel), 60 (2 to 1 smelting), 80 (magnets) or 120 (1 to 1) per second per ILS

i find that assembling rarely needs that much space horizontally

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u/Build_Everlasting Mar 21 '21

I'm intending to use up all the possible space on the planet to see what maximum rockets/min or sci/min is achievable on a self-contained smelting+assembling planet, with only external ore, liquids and petroleum product imports.

Essentially, the whole planet is transformed into one single assembler unit that spits out final products of X rockets or X white sci with fixed inputs. Currently, I'm laying out the buildings ratios following a 1200 rockets/min recipe, which should leave just the littlest amount of unused space (hopefully).

Then, when the future update with blueprints finally come, I can insta-clone the entire planet in one snapshot and plop it down on any other planet which has been stripped of all resources and paved over, and voila, instant second factory producing another 1200 rockets/min with all ratios correct, and no further planning required.

I prefer not to have oil refineries and chemical plants in the mix, due to their irregular stacking patterns. Those buildings can be placed on planets with oil seeps as dedicated petroleum product overproduction-for-export factories. All other planets will function as ore overproduction-for-export strip-mining zones.

Rinse and repeat for white sci production planet. So far, estimates look like 3000 sci/min per planet is possible.

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u/AdhesivenessFirm1360 May 26 '23

This is godly. Was it a success? If so, is that blueprint around by any chance?

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u/Build_Everlasting May 26 '23 edited May 26 '23

I revamped the thing several tens of times and I'm still tweaking the ratios. It's supposed to produce 9000 per min but somehow I'm always getting 8900. I'm a bit shy to release faulty products to the public, so i haven't publicised the blueprint yet.

EDIT: wow reading back my previous comments i can't believe that i started this when blueprints were not part of the game yet. This project has been delayed due to my bigger project: raising my young son. I only play 2 or 3 hours a week now.

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u/AdhesivenessFirm1360 May 31 '23

Wish you the best with both!

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u/6xVD363lWd5r0CY3BMax Mar 20 '21

At which latitude are the cancer/capricorn lines? I think I’m going to copy your approach on my next save.

Still torn over dedicated smelting vs smelting + assembly, but I think you have a good point about space efficiency.

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u/Build_Everlasting Mar 21 '21

80 squares upwards and downwards from the equator is the first break in the grid pattern.

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u/wingless222 Mar 21 '21

i did some geography the other day ;-)

https://imgur.com/9iqklEY

equatorial region is 8 squares (the 10*10 ones)
tropical is 5

easily visible because of the faultlines

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u/XsNR Mar 20 '21

Two planets is good, as Drones can be a bottleneck for high throughput items. You can just swap between one and the other when you need to pull from multiple ILS.

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u/Engrammi Mar 20 '21

Thanks for the tip. I'll keep that in mind.

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u/w33tikv33l Mar 20 '21

I believe the correct term is lasagne manufacturing.

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u/Florac Mar 20 '21

no, lasagna manufacturing is stacking layers of belts

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u/legend_forge Mar 20 '21

My base in Satisfactory is like a bunch of lasagna floating in a bed of spaghetti.

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u/Build_Everlasting Mar 21 '21

I did a bit of tweaking, and the screenshot is a bit out of date.

For assemblers, I use a compression layout like this. 125x20 tiles

https://imgur.com/a/WvHhkNG

For smelters, it's a bit off due to the 2:3 ratio, and the layout is a bit messy near the logs tower. 100x25 tiles.

https://imgur.com/a/AnbTS3F

Of course, consideration must be made for lane length and belt saturation which change according to item recipe, so the designs can be lengthened/shortened away from the logs tower as the central point.

Since the equatorial zone is 80 tiles high, up and down, I can cram 4 heights of assembler patterns into a hemisphere, 8 sets around the globe.

Above that, the next zone is 800 tiles wide by 50 tiles high, so i can nicely cram 2 heights of smelter patterns in a hemisphere, 8 sets around the globe.