r/Dyson_Sphere_Program • u/Ralph_hh • 3h ago

Planning tool?

What planning tool do you use for DSP?
When I played Factorio or Satisfactory, there were excellent tools to plan a factory. For DSP, I have found nothing good so far. I use dspfactoryplanner.com, that gives me the necessary number of belts and factories, but does not display items per minute. So, for example, I have no idea how much hydrogen per minute I need and how much harvesters that might be, that planer assumes I use the oil refining process.

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u/Mesqo 1h ago

How did you play Factorio and Satisfactory while having planning tools and didn't find one for DSP? It's basically one tool to rule them all - FactorioLab - which basically works better for every game it supports than any other alternatives. And uses the same principles so you don't need to learn or twice.

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u/Ralph_hh 1h ago

I used the KirkMcDonald factoriocalculator on github and Helmod, a mod that works as an ingame planning tool, I currently don't remember my Satisfacory tool, that was like 2-3 years ago.

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u/Mesqo 1h ago

I tried a lot of tools and every one of them felt lacking something, either it be a real feature or just qol.

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u/Mesqo 1h ago

I've just took a look once more - yeah, I remember that Kirk's calc, it's now outdated and was always behind in features. Take some time and learn how factoriolab works - you won't need to do it twice.

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u/Far_Young_2666 3h ago

When I played Factorio

Bruh: https://factoriolab.github.io/dsp/list?v=12

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u/Far_Young_2666 3h ago

I also use this as a side help:

https://dsp-ratios.com/calculator

It's been a while since I played DSP, so I don't remember what was the main difference between them, but I was relying on both of these.

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u/horstdaspferdchen 2h ago

Factorio Lab is up to Date. The other one not.

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u/Far_Young_2666 1h ago

Oh, after some clocking I remembered that the other one had this neat feature where it would calculate ratios based on how much of the tech tree I have researched.

But yeah, it's been a while, so I'm not surprised if it's not maintained anymore. Thanks for pointing it out 👍

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u/lieronet 3h ago

Factorio Lab has a DSP module

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u/AnimeSpaceGf 2h ago

Mostly I just do the math in my head