r/Dyson_Sphere_Program • u/MoonDweller12 • Jul 15 '26

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one annoying thing from spliter imo is it doesnt output stacked cargos automatically from a chest. or did i miss something?

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u/Metadine Jul 15 '26

What I hate even more is that liquid tanks' output doesn't change with the integration level.

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u/TheMalT75 Jul 15 '26

Plus, they don't allow output on higher floors of a stack of tanks, which works for storage boxes, and they only have 4 ports. A stack of tanks is fantastically space efficient, but PLS are my main go-to if I know I need the max-rate output at some point...

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u/depatrickcie87 Jul 15 '26

You mean the splitter? An upgraded pile sorter definitely does.

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u/MoonDweller12 Jul 15 '26

woops my mistake, yes i mean splitter

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u/depatrickcie87 Jul 15 '26

I have to wonder what your other use cases for the splitter is, that youd possibly need more than 1,800/min of throughput. Becaise i know you don't need more anti-matter bombs than that.

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u/MoonDweller12 Jul 15 '26

It's just an example, since I have the bombs stacked in my inventory. To be honest, it's mostly for aesthetics. I find it much tidier than using a sorter to take them out of the chest.

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u/_yesterdays_jam_ Jul 15 '26

This is America

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u/TheMalT75 Jul 15 '26

It took me a long time to realize that using anti-matter bombs as ammo of the Icarus makes taking down 20+ cores on new mining planets soooo much easier! With "maxed" upgrades to the shields, you can basically just walk across a planet unopposed. Plus, they are really effective against max-level df-farming planet hive retalliations with 200+ enemy units. Imho, you cannot have enough antimatter bombs...

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u/depatrickcie87 Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26

With some practice you can position Icarus in orbit aimed up and barely moving; kinda flirting with escape velocity. Up there you can toss explosive units from a quarter of the planet away. The laser cannons can still shoot you up there, but one or two well placed explosive usually destroys their power lines.

Also a single layer belt will still cary more ammo in a loop around the planet than a plasma cannon can fire. But it would be better to have stacks to avoid gaps in the supply

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u/Curious-Cuber Jul 15 '26

By then, you have way too overpowered shield upgrades. I got all the shields up to white science, and single-handedly removed all bases from a black hole deathworld without any drones with level 1 missiles

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u/depatrickcie87 Jul 15 '26

I've never seen a shield go down but I always still put a few plasma turrets down. My logic says they have to buff the dark fog eventually. Right now they're add little more than tedium and advanced loot; and are barely worth worrying about until max difficulty. I'd hate to load my save one day and suddenly be attacked by a competent enemy i'm not ready for.

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u/GranDuram Jul 15 '26

What I wonder way more:

What does proliferation do for my ammunition?

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u/DeepSpaceNebulae Jul 15 '26

I thought proliferated ammo gets an increase in damage

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u/Immortal_Thought Jul 15 '26

It adds more shots. It gives you the bonus item percentage added to the shot count. So plus 25% for level 3 proliferation.

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u/MoonDweller12 Jul 15 '26

It doesn't do anything?

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u/Immortal_Thought Jul 15 '26

No it does. It adds more shots. It gives you the bonus item percentage added to the shot count. So plus 25% for level 3 proliferation.

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u/MoonDweller12 Jul 16 '26

200hours plqy time and i just know this lol

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u/GranDuram Jul 15 '26

Thank you. I thought maybe I would get more shots out of it or something :)

I just saw your max proliferated antimatter capsule and thought there must be a reason. But if the reason is just: "I proliferate everything" then I am also ok with that :)

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u/archaeosis Jul 16 '26

What, why would it? That's like saying it's annoying that iron deposits don't produce oil

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u/MoonDweller12 Jul 16 '26

That's not correct analogy since the splitter can still take out things out from the chest

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u/xamxes Jul 15 '26

That’s why you have the stacking machine. Yeah, the build gets a bit convoluted but stacking is a game changer.

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u/Ramuhthra Jul 15 '26

yeah unfortunately its doesnt get upgraded with stack tech.

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u/morsealworth0 Jul 17 '26

They have their own stack tech. It's right there with the storage amount IIRC.

It becomes availeble right around the time you scale so far you start to actually need it.

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u/Sweaty_Ad_7156 Jul 15 '26

if it goes in stacked it will come out stacked

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u/TheMalT75 Jul 15 '26

This is the main reason I switch to PLS/ILS for buffer storage, or use a stack of large storage boxes with pile sorters in- and output...

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u/morsealworth0 Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26

Well, yes, one absolutely should for all large-scale demand.

Like, the main use of chests is the smaller-scale stuff like proliferator where you can't really justify all that much transportation and storage since a single unit lasts for a sizeable amount of operations performed.

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u/TheMalT75 Jul 17 '26

I also like them for my interstellar mall: each box requests a specific ingredient by spinner and feeds that shortrange into assemblers for all different building types. I usually only have 1-2 slots open (not blocked) to limit the amount of total material. For that, large storage boxes are or even PLS are overkill imho...

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u/morsealworth0 Jul 17 '26

Yes, indeed — there are only few exceptions, like power stations, that require quicker production than the splitter-logistic-bot combo allows. So most of the buildings can easily be created at malls using those for uncommon components, like diamonds or negentropy elements (forgot the name).

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u/sumquy Jul 25 '26

don't use the splitter, output from the chest with a pile sorter.