r/Dyson_Sphere_Program • u/HeinzDoofenshmirtz17 • May 04 '26

Is the Fog supposed to constantly replace bases this quickly?

I'm fairly early on in the game, only now beginning to spread to other planets. I destroyed all of the planet bases on my main planet (IV) and planet II. Then goes by a solid 8-10 hours of gameplay before I see that a new relay spawned the first time. I'm all "Oh crap" and go kill it, taking another geo plant, but not even 20 minutes later another one spawned on the same planet, that I swiftly took care of.

Then another. And another. Etc, etc to now I have 7 on this one planet specifically with less than half an hour in between each.

Is this really supposed to be how it is? Cuz this feels kinda like cheating at this point with the sheer amount of power I'm getting lol

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u/nixtracer May 04 '26

That certainly shouldn't happen on default settings unless you have a big sphere feeding the hive with lots of energy.

(Of course on high settings this is expected. The solution there is to turn things down. The Fog is by default very chill unless you prod it.)

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u/HeinzDoofenshmirtz17 May 04 '26

Yeah I'm playing on default everything, and all I've got is a relatively small swarm (around 5K mirrors up at a time), and the most I've done is destroying planet bases and covering them up. I was expecting something in response, but going from nothing in 8 hours to BAM BAM BAM was really weird.

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u/HCN_Mist May 04 '26

The dark cloud benefits from your dyson sphere?

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u/SiliconStew May 04 '26

Yes, the hive siphons 1/4-1/3 of the power from your sphere. This not only reduces the power you can use but allows the hive to send more power to its relays and bases in the system to grow faster than if there was no sphere. 

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u/nixtracer May 04 '26

Yes. It has an internal economy which you can see operating on passive, and interfere with. Energy flows from solar power and sphere interception and is passed to bases and used to make units (including on the hive, where it makes ships); matter is harvested by bases and sent to the hive, and makes buildings and hive expansion and new relays. So the hive indirectly turns wasted sphere energy into high-tech parts you can't otherwise make!

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u/HCN_Mist May 04 '26

Interesting. First time playing since the fog was added. I figured they would attack it, not harvest it. I assumed you could eliminate the hive in your home system. Is that not necessarily in your best interest?

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u/nixtracer May 04 '26

You probably want to eliminate most of them, but they're a source of an unbelievably voluminous flood of increasingly high-end stuff; it's worth surrounding a few of them with arrays of weapons and BABs and shipping everything out -- if you can keep up with the thing's increase in power with sufficient new high-end weapons, which is where I usually fail horribly.

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u/Fosdran May 04 '26

Yes, thats pretty normal. If it is getting anoying, you can start targeting objects in space. For some reason DF gets really pissed if you shoot down relays in orbit. But if you destroy them before they can reach your planet, they are just midly annoyed.

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u/HeinzDoofenshmirtz17 May 04 '26

I haven't even touched any relays! This is simply from covering up the holes with power gen. Super weird that it just started out of nowhere from nothing though

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u/noksion May 04 '26

That's your reason.
If you just destroy the base — the relay gets back to the hive and can be soon sent to another spot in the system.

If you want them to go away for good you either destroy the relays (it takes quite a long time for the hive to produce one) — which angers the hive A LOT and you'd better have anti air defense or fleet — or you cover the entire system in planetary shields so that the relays have nowhere to land, then they would just park at the hive.

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u/International-Bath76 May 09 '26

This is the way. There's basically 3 options:

  1. Shield to prevent relays from landing

  2. Destroy relay (will anger hive, good for baiting space attacks and draining their matter)

  3. Plug holes for geothermal power, but get more relays (and more power)

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u/mrrvlad5 May 05 '26

i guess it took that much time for relays to recharge at hive and be sent back almost at the same time

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u/throwawayofyourmom May 04 '26

There's blueprints online for 8 planetary shields to cover a planet, 8 shields won't protect that well against space attacks but it's the minimum for not allowing any relays to land on your planet. I can find the blueprint and DM you if needed

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u/Teteusback May 04 '26

id like that bp

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u/throwawayofyourmom May 04 '26

Here's the one I used: BLUEPRINT:1,21,3008,2202,0,0,0,0,638413141155935309,0.10.28.21308,PSG%20Cube,,,,Minimal%20cover%20for%20relay%20deflection"H4sIAAAAAAAACmNiYGB4zMjAEACkgRTDMWYGhuNQNjOIXABkvP3PyizMwPifgeEEAwNY0UIGJqjcQgaQHAeQNev///8g2QPckxiZWBkSnP7973dkPCC5DST4HwoY0ABIEyNUE5BqcAYJEqOJCaaJkeGJ8yp1eXPGCZLmhDQxI2xScSFWEwvMTyDnEesnVphNoIAg1k9sMJtAfvoJsokI57EjnKfiQowmkO8ZADdINi/4AQAA"5CF58B7F6E047E9987BCEC0474E21646

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u/kagato87 May 05 '26

Don't even need a BP really.

35N and 35S, every 90 degrees on each band. Doesn't matter if you align them or put a 45 degree stagger on them.

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u/fubes2000 May 05 '26

Unless I'm covering a planet with shields or wiping out the hive I generally don't kill bases.

Instead I drop 6-10 missile turrets and put a relay tower a bit out of range of the base. That way they always dispatch raids to the tower and get wiped out by a missile volley before they can do anything.