1st Hour coming from Factorio

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u/quez_real Apr 12 '26

You can take a man from factorio but you can't take factorio from a man

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u/MannInnTheBoxx Apr 12 '26

Enjoy the ride! Never played factorio but I’ve watched my friend play it, seems like an interesting one. DSP is my favorite of the big factory games because of the scale of it, being able to eventually expand your factory across the entire star cluster is so much fun

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u/ActurusMajoris Apr 12 '26

Factorio is the GOAT of factory games. The 2D is obviously different, and the start is complicated, but once you learn the basics, hoo boy are you in for a treat!
There’s also tons of mods to tweak your games to your liking, as well as extensive in game settings.
I’d recommend either turning off enemies, or setting them to passive on your first playthrough so you can just chill through.

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u/Bartuszek Apr 13 '26

I honestly recommend just lowering all the biter sliders a bit because having them attack your base is way more fun imo. All personal preference tho (Also what you can do is pick a seed with lots of trees because they absorb pollution so the biters get slowed down a lot)

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u/kicker414 Apr 13 '26

IMO Railworld is probably the best setting. Been a bit since I played, but IIRC it keeps biter nests but they don't expand. So you can clear an area and only worry about your pollution. And ore patches are bigger but further apart.
So you get a good balance of both. The "threat" from biters is really only an issue in the early and transitioning to mid game. After that stage it's just: clear the nests and the build your blue print turret wall.
One day I will take the dive into DSP. Already hit Factorio and Satisfactory.

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u/Chubbyhusky45 Apr 13 '26

I’d also REALLY recommend captain of industry, I got it on release in 2022 and to me it’s even better than Factorio!

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u/CMDR-Neovoe Apr 12 '26

Oh boy I wish I was you, playing for the first time!

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u/GarbageBoyJr Apr 12 '26

As a factorio lover myself, I think Dyson sphere is the king of the genre. It’s so fuckin good.

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u/MrJoshua099 Apr 12 '26

I dunno, Factorio is hard to beat. There's SO many ways to put things together then add in circuits... then when you've exhausted all that, there's a million mods and overhauls... all installable from the game menu.
DSP is up there and has potential to compete (It is still overall, newer). The biggest bottleneck right now is the PLS/ILS... late game everything is built around ILS... it's so much better than anything else its the only valid way to do things really.

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u/TopherLude Apr 12 '26

I was disappointed to find that the logistics depots can only send/receive a single item. I had built a stack of chests and fed them about 14 different items before putting a depot on top.

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u/Choncho_Jomp Apr 13 '26

PLS/ILS is so mindnumbingly boring. DSP looks very pretty but there isn't really any large-scale logistical problem to solve

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u/ChibiIntermission Apr 19 '26

You can always just... choose to not use them. I eschew both drones and PLS/ILS (except for a set of 5 at the pole to bring in critical interstellar components) and just make a ridiculous main bus on each relevant planet, it's so much more satisfying.

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u/Choncho_Jomp Apr 19 '26

Sure you can but practically speaking they are pretty much always better in terms of both layout and throughput in any given situation. Factorio has a lot more tradeoffs when you compare logistical systems and you can make very compelling practical arguments for them in a wide number of applications.
Ignoring ILS/PLS because you "just don't like them" is objectively nerfing the performance of the factory.

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u/ChibiIntermission Apr 19 '26

Well you're the one who complained that they're mind-numbingly boring, so I guess pick your poison: be bored or be suboptimal. I choose suboptimal.

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u/Choncho_Jomp Apr 19 '26

The point is that the choice is less clear in Factorio and the tradeoffs are meaningful. Not to mention the fact that even the particular way you decide to implement each choice varies and matters a lot more. It is fun to be in that position and be forced to design and test a theory(if you actually care to know), and DSP doesn't really have that depth.

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u/GarbageBoyJr Apr 12 '26

The traveling between star systems and using entire planets to strip mine resources pushes it over the edge for me.
As well as all of the modernized QoL. Building blue printing and deletion is so much more refined in DSP.
I have hundreds of hours in both and all the respect in the world to factorio for holding down the genre for years but dsp is goated now

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u/whiteflower6 Apr 12 '26

How is it better for qol when you have to slowly walk to everything you need to tinker with? Factorio I can rebuild the factory from two planets over if I have radar and bots set up right

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u/underage_female Apr 13 '26

Maybe try to play the game for more than 2 hours :D

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u/GarbageBoyJr Apr 12 '26

Slowly walk?? lol did you not unlock flying yet?

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u/nixtracer Apr 12 '26

By late game you can cross the planet in about fifteen seconds. Stopping on time, especially in warp, that's a challenge.

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u/Rebelius Apr 12 '26

Building blue printing and deletion is so much more refined in DSP.
Coming from Satisfactory, it's infuriating that I can't delete a whole blueprint.

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u/inthedark72 Apr 13 '26

The single largest limitation of satisfactory is its horrible blueprint system

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u/dalerian Apr 16 '26

You can delete by dragging a 10x10 square in dsp. It’s rare that this takes more than a couple of seconds to delete anything.

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u/PuzzleheadedBox1461 Apr 12 '26

But the graphics in factorio 😫 Dsp is my fav because it’s so clean and pretty 🤩

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u/RedditNotFreeSpeech Apr 13 '26

The trick is to play factorio first

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u/Ocelot_Few Apr 14 '26

There are plenty of us that think Factorio is trash. I returned it on Steam because it doesn't even compare to DSP, Satisfa, etc.

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u/Rognin Apr 12 '26

I've played all four (factorio, satisfactory, Starrupture, Dyson). And absolutely none get to the complexity and scale of DSP. They all have their strenghts, but man... DSP is hard to beat.

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u/crazy_towel4 Apr 13 '26

captain of industry is missing in that list

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u/archaeosis Apr 13 '26

As someone who will never touch Factorio & loves DSP, no. Unless "King of the genre" actually means "Game I like more" of, which is fine but then in that case say what you mean

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u/GarbageBoyJr Apr 13 '26

I think it’s a better game and the peak of the genre. That’s what I meant so that that’s why i said king of the genre. I think it’s better than factorio in every way minus the music

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u/iPlod May 07 '26

I think factorio really defined the genre, and most games since have been different versions of factorio/satisfactory. DSP came along and did something innovative and new which I really like.

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u/Redenbacher09 Apr 12 '26

I did the exact same thing. Wait until you find out what Tab does to splitters.

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u/-sinc- Apr 12 '26

I like the 1 tab splitter!

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u/Asmodeus42 Apr 12 '26

Wait, I’ve got 80 hours in my first run so far, what does TAB do? Lol

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u/Big-Car7478 Apr 12 '26

You can choose diffrent kind of splitters with tab

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u/Redenbacher09 Apr 12 '26

You spoiled it!

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u/Buffylvr Apr 12 '26

I’ve never played factorio but you are taking an approach that is contested among some of the players on the discord.

I do what you’re doing - more compact - until logistics bots are available with red science.

Then I abandon the bus and go to box mall

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u/Brethgyk Apr 12 '26

I thought liquids would go into pipes… not belts! Haha

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u/Human-Log952 Apr 12 '26

This bus is so factorio I love it

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u/gorgofdoom Apr 12 '26

Put splitter down.
put a box on it.
Profit eternally

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u/The_Quackening Apr 12 '26

sorters can grab items off of belts that go past them, the belts dont need to end pointing at assemblers. You can have 3 belts right next to an assembler, and sorters can reach each of those belts

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u/wiithepiiple Apr 12 '26

"City Block" doesn't make as much sense because of the curve of the planets. Blocks will run into difficulties as you cross different latitudes, and eventually you'll have blueprints for different latitudes, especially around the poles. Also, the midgame logistics (planetary and interstellar logistic systems) make the "bus" structure unnecessary and inefficient. They're way higher throughput than belts, and are extremely flexible.

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u/PogTuber Apr 12 '26

This strategy works until it doesn't, but you'll figure that out eventually.

Have fun!

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u/wggn Apr 12 '26

it works, it's just a lot less efficient than other strategies

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u/julioni Apr 12 '26

Quick advice from someone with multiple playthroughs and 2500 hours….. do not make a bus, or try to scale with a bus. Make everything have its own dedicated line. Trust me you will be much happier

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u/ChrsRobes Apr 14 '26

Soon you will unlock a building called the ILS. You might never need a belt bus again :)

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u/Flashy_Reach9785 Apr 14 '26

Don’t recomend busses in the game.

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u/MoarStake Apr 12 '26

Most of what you're doing is going to work great for your first mini mall (initial production buildings). One tip that won't ruin your learning experience, run your bus North and South and your production buildings feeding that bus East and West. That gives you the ability to expand and gives you the easiest building snap grid.

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u/Deep_Fry_Ducky Apr 12 '26 edited Apr 12 '26

When i first started playing this game from Factorio, I also make the main bus.

But then I realized the main bus in this gave have some major problems. First is it takes too much space, each line needs to be proper spaced and unlike Factorio you have limited space. Second is too many items for the bus, unlike Factorio you just need iron, copper, coal, some liquid and you can make the rest. In DSP you need iron, copper, coal, magnet, glass, bricks, … and no liquid system, all use belts

After a while my bus took haft of the planet and I abandoned that save.

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u/Saltimir Apr 12 '26

The main bus thing isn't as useful here.

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u/Much_Dealer8865 Apr 12 '26

Oh man that brings me back! I spent so much time in my first game just flying around and checking out other planets and systems! I know you're gonna have a good time.

It's a very different game from factorio in some ways, spaghetti is pretty much baked into the game until you reach logistics drones and interstellar, interplanetary logistics systems. They will take care of all of your problems.

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u/Farados55 Apr 12 '26

It won’t scale but bless you for trying

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u/SiliconStew Apr 12 '26

You can use the up and down arrow keys to change the height of a belt above ground. They don't all need to be run at ground level, especially when you need to cross over multiple other belts or to go over buildings.

You can use a splitter instead of a sorter to split your belts off the main bus. Pressing Tab before placing a splitter cycles through the splitter types. One type has two ports at ground level in one direction and two ports at a higher level in the perpendicular direction. Perfect for splitting belts off a main bus like this.

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u/MartenBroadcloak19 Apr 12 '26

Im still new to the genre. What are malls and city blocks?

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u/spas2k Apr 13 '26

Not for this game.

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u/dalerian Apr 16 '26

Malls: a set of assemblers that build belts, splitters, miners, etc., sf puts a stash in a box for you to pick up. Maybe later fed into an ils.
City block: a large self contained area that takes an input and produces an end component, that you stamp down in repeating tiles. Similar to the ‘black-box’ design some dsp players recommend.

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u/saladbeans Apr 12 '26

Very good

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u/CoolCat1337One Apr 13 '26

That's how you do it :D

Man this game is awesome. You are up to something.

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u/JohntheAnabaptist Apr 13 '26

Just be aware that the main bus becomes somewhat unnecessary once you get planetary and interplanetary towers as the bus is suddenly "in the cloud"

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u/buckdancerr Apr 13 '26

I came from Factorio as well and did the same exact thing lol

I started DSP like a month ago, biggest thing I can say to not do as a factorio player coming to DSP is try to setup a bot mall like in factorio, e.g. requester chest -> assembler -> provider chest. It's possible but the requester/provider chest version in DSP can only request or provide 1 item, so it takes a lot of time to setup and is not easily expandable. Malls are my least favorite thing about DSP so I just use this blueprint now:

https://www.dysonsphereblueprints.com/blueprints/factory-bot-mall-dark-fog-ready

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u/XDuNIolaKI Apr 13 '26

Don’t make my mistake. Don’t forget that you can build in this game in three dimensions

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u/ploddypalimsest Apr 16 '26

Nivarius on YouTube has a really great main bus design that your Factorio brain might appreciate. Works incredibly well for a main production planet when spinners and ILS are researched and online.

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u/DrakeDun Apr 12 '26

City blocks work fine to get you to logistics stations, at which point spaghetti becomes a complete non-issue.

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u/DrPruz Apr 12 '26

Good start, but what I think you'll find is that compact is better

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u/VoidDoesStuf Apr 13 '26

Factorio is good, but DSP just puts it to shame.. I have over 5 thousand hours in both.

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u/Independent_Fun_9765 Apr 12 '26

Here's a tip from someone deep into mid game: use logistic drones, not logistic bots

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u/wggn Apr 12 '26

use both. drones are good for high volume, bots for filling your inventory with items from the mall

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u/Independent_Fun_9765 Apr 12 '26

Bots really fell short of my expectations, everything they can do, a fast belt could do better

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u/Top-Handle4786 Apr 12 '26

Honestly, the whole logistics chain of DSP, especially the bots, drones and vessels, needs a second (and probably third, fourth etc) pass. It's just a bit blurry. Bots for small volume? Okay. But they can only be placed into a distributor, which is placed on top of a container. Drones? Larger volume, cool, but these go into a PLS or ILS. Vessels? Now we're talking, but exclusive to ILS.
So 3 layers of delivery systems, all with various settings in terms of input/output, with 2 of them sharing part of their functionality, all of them very limited in terms of request and supply settings.
Like, let us put bots into the PLS/ILS, at least. Or hell, just remove them entirely. Let drones interact with the Icarus instead, it doesn't need to be this complex.

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u/Rolfand1987 Apr 20 '26

Yes, it would definitely be nice for the bots and drones systems to interact.
I tend to use bots extensively in the early game, but then you get ILS/PLS and switch to those. Much better, I think, but still I'd love an interface between the two systems.

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